BravesCountry
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Guys. I've had the sniffles all morning due to the change in weather. Maybe everything the MSM says about Trump is a lie?
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Presidential Debate #1 |Hofstra University| PRESS X TO SEAN
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Online polls (swarmed by his supporters)
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What time is it?
I don't remember which but one of his answers left me with a headache. He linked together statements a,b c with the word because and just repeated them like a broken record and failed to delivery a coherent thought. I think it was in regards to nuclear proliferation.
He's really bad at this. If you are going to attack Hillary regarding emails why not wait until the cyber terrorism topic comes up? Instead you use that attack as a bargaining chip for releasing your tax returns?
Hillary did mostly fine beyond going back to the well on the "trumped up, trick down economics" which felt flat the first time she used that zinger.
QuantumBro
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Oh no, I understand all that, it's that racist line of thinking that all minorities lose all their rights once they're suspected of anything.
It still means that he's more left than Clinton because I think Clinton has only talked about reducing the amount of guns available in the future, not taking away owned ones.
Lots of Russian trolls and bots.
Never ever trust online polls. In this case 4chan is swarming those polls with bots.
~ Zyzomys ~
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Some of his biggest friends are Hispanics. Tremendous people.
Laevateinn
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It's basic propaganda. If you don't like reality, make your own.
B-B-Bomba!
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I missed the last third. But from what I saw, I don't think Clinton engaged enough with Trump's narrative of her as the status quo figure, a part of the existing corrupt elite. I think that's his strongest and least crazy message. If Clinton can somehow combat that, then she ought to pry away some of those sane, intelligent people who are simply voting Trump because he represents the 'fearless outspoken outsider' by comparison to the genuinely distasteful politics machine. It's a powerful message, and as I said, not actually crazy. I think Trump landed points there.
Regulus Tera
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online polls are worthless
years of GameFAQs character battles should have shown you that
theepicoftyler
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400lbs big? Hmm...
I don't really know. I knew in the first 30 minutes that I was changing my vote.
I think it just hit me that Trump really is an existential threat to both our physical and economic safety. And worse, there seem to be a lot of people who believe in him.
I guess I finally saw just how far the false equivalency really is.
Those people are the crazies and she's not going to win them back. They aren't sane and intelligent if they're voting for Trump because he's an outsider. They don't really care about issues, which means she can't win them. She's not fighting for those fools, she's fighting for the independents and undecideds.
friskykillface
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#Trump train don't stop bro, how do you know the bots won't be voting in November
Ex Machina is real 👀
whyamihere
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Aaronrules380
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I find it hilarious how so many people victim blame the people Trump scammed and ripped off, but don't even consider that he might do the exact same thing to them if they elect him
A lot of them are living vicariously through Trump. Doing all of the scummy things they wish they could pull off themselves.
bangbang i'm a timpani
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....this election is over jesus christ
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I just heard the "too presidential " complaint
What the fuck? What does that even mean?
What the fuck? What does that even mean?
Let's see what kind of bump this translates into. If it's big enough, and can be replicated after each debate, then this really is done.
HOW DARE SHE LOOK LIKE SHE'S PREPARED TO DO THE JOB SHE'S RUNNING TO GET!
He is a incoherently rambling, ill informed, racist and sexist liar who run multiple businesses into the ground and the sole reason he came into that position is because he was born into the establishment.
Read this to get your answer - http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/trump-clinton-debate-online-polls-4chan-the-donald/
"We like the guy who isn't afraid to be racist and sexist, and will also admit to conning people."
Yes. If you went on /pol/ on 4chan or even reddit's /r/The_Donald you would have seen tons of links to online polls with the instructions "TELL 'EM WHO REALLY WON!". Online polls are garbage anyway, thankfully. If anything I hope it gives Donald a false sense of confidence going into the next debates so that he starts to perform even more poorly.
The only way people can spin this into a positive for their guy is by spewing anti-intellectualism crap. She was too prepared, too presidential, her answers were too detailed and nuanced.
No shit. She's about to become the leader of the free world.
friskykillface
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That was a thing on one of the joke drinking games, yeah? "Trump advertises hotel for no reason"?
Holy crap.
balladofwindfishes
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To be fair, Hillary pushed her book hard last night.
Aaronrules380
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I get that, but it's one thing to admire a successful con man and another to trust them, especially when they admit to conning people
Yeah, after Trump claimed that it didn't exist.
Breaking News: Trump's health called into question - may have the plague.
gaf deserves a check from the hillary campaign at this point
B-B-Bomba!
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I don't live in America. But I consume a fair deal of its culture and news one way or another. I wouldn't call it crazy to feel swindled by an elite or under represented by your government. IMO there is a completely non-crazy message there which will carry a lot of people. Especially people who have been convinced that foreigners are the source of most ills and that all this race hoo-haa is another round of PC hand-wringing. Because even that isn't crazy; it's just misled. I hope I'm being clear - I'm not saying these are reasonable positions, but that I can reasonably see how a person could end up holding them. Labelling those people crazies, and assuming there aren't sizeable numbers of winnable votes in amongst them, is IMO a dangerous approach to a monumental election. Crazy or not, wouldn't you rather persuade them to vote for Clinton anyway?
Right! And you and I both know that and we think it's important. The point is, to think about the votes it's possible to take away from him. The ones who recognise his faults, but are voting for Trump because of Clintons.
The people who listen to what he said last night and still choose to vote for him, either don't think about or just don't care about those consequences.
Aaronrules380
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The key here being that Trump is far more a part of the "elite establishment" than Clinton ever was
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Gordon Shumway
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Why wasn't she fixing the problems in Michigan and Ohio when she was the senator of New York? It's a fair question..
You know, the two states with unemployment levels that are actually lower than the national average.
What a fucking idiot Trump is. Couldn't even get that part straight.
I'm watching this debate on Youtube now and I have one question:
Did I just see Donald Trump stand there on stage and talk about bad people with guns, stop and frisk being a working strategy and how it was ruled unconstitutional only because of an anti-police judge? And did I really just watch him flaunt how he has the support of the cops? All this while, in fact, the question was how he intended to fix the racial divide? Did I just see that? Please tell me he didn't just say all those things.
Did I just see Donald Trump stand there on stage and talk about bad people with guns, stop and frisk being a working strategy and how it was ruled unconstitutional only because of an anti-police judge? And did I really just watch him flaunt how he has the support of the cops? All this while, in fact, the question was how he intended to fix the racial divide? Did I just see that? Please tell me he didn't just say all those things.
sturgboski
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Where was Obama during 9/11? Why wasn't he in the oval office? Was he out golfing? Someone needs to investigate.
I'm not defending the opinions of Trump supporters... Hell, I've been planning to vote for Clinton after having watching the DNC... The DNC sold me because it gave a history of what Hillary Clinton has done and showed exactly why she would be a great President. As someone in their thirties, my knowledge of Hillary Clinton amounted to having been a child and teenager during Bill's Presidency in the '90s and knowing about her time as Senator of New York and Secretary of State. To hear of what progressive things Hillary Clinton did in the '60s, '70s, and '80s was better at convincing me that she was the best choice over most of the arguments I've heard outside of the DNC which still amount to "She's not Donald Trump!"
I wonder how many of those remaining independents made a "I don't know, but America lost" joke and thought they were original for it.
Obama didn't stop The Great Depression. What a weakling.
Pai Pai Master
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Yes when asked how he would fix the racial divide, Donald Trump said in front of the world that stop-and-frisk was the answer. You're not imagining things, he is THAT ignorant and insensitive to minorities.
It's so FUCKING unbelievable and frustrating. The only lie bigger than that from last night was when he said he had a better temperament than Clinton.
QuantumBro
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She was too busy being with Obama in Kenya during 9/11 to deal with Michigan and Ohio.
Prodigal Son
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Can we expect Tim Kaine to do well against Pence?
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