Pressing "NO TIP" when paying your barber is one of the most awkward interactions
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Katzenjammer
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Tipping is optional by definition. The customer doesn't have a responsibility to make up for the employers inability to pay a proper salary. It's messed up that there is a burden put on the customer to pay more than the asking price. When you have the option to go to any barber you want, choosing a specific barber is like a tip in itself. No shame OP!
Disclosure: I cut my own hair these days.
Disclosure: I cut my own hair these days.
Which is good, since even standard military cuts require a little extra specific care between each individual.
Professor Beef
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I bet OP doesn't wash his hair before or after his cut.
fucking scust
fucking scust
yet_another_alt
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I bought a clipper for $20. Pretty much paid for itself in one use.
SynthFetish
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The fuck is wrong with you!?
Tip your goddamn barber!
Tip your goddamn barber!
The vast majority of countries don't use the same tipping system as the USA.
I'm not talking about people from outside the US.
paperspace
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This can't be real. Please tell me this isn't real.
That excuse doesn't fly for people who live in countries that do (or just flat out live in the US), though.
We do. We just don't want to punish workers by not tipping them while that system is still in place.
You can try and fight the system and still support workers by tipping them until the system changes for the better.
Tip or get bad service, lol.
Ohh a tip thread on GAF.
General tip thing that happened today. Went to try a pizza joint by us and picked it up on the way home. Wife paid for it and gave them a 3 dollar tip. I was like WTF? Why? Should have gotten it delivered in that case. She said she felt awkward writing 0 on the tip line on the credit slip.
Top it off, the pizza sucked. I guess I should have called ahead and told them we were going to leave a tip.
General tip thing that happened today. Went to try a pizza joint by us and picked it up on the way home. Wife paid for it and gave them a 3 dollar tip. I was like WTF? Why? Should have gotten it delivered in that case. She said she felt awkward writing 0 on the tip line on the credit slip.
Top it off, the pizza sucked. I guess I should have called ahead and told them we were going to leave a tip.
It isn't your job to reward workers. This is responsibilty of the employer and the system will never change because nobody is willing to Costanza it out of existence.
milanbaros
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God, American tipping culture just sounds awful. Why can't people just have a price they would be happy to sell you the service for/would cover their payroll costs? What is this grey market bullshit?
Take a step back. For nearly everything, the price listed is an opening offer from the seller, potentially for the customer to haggle down. However, in America you have people setting the price knowing that the customer needs to pay more to make it worth it and the mechanism to ensure this is social pressure.
All these employees relying on tips have no security in pay.
Take a step back. For nearly everything, the price listed is an opening offer from the seller, potentially for the customer to haggle down. However, in America you have people setting the price knowing that the customer needs to pay more to make it worth it and the mechanism to ensure this is social pressure.
All these employees relying on tips have no security in pay.
Permanently A
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Hold on, where in the name of fuck do you have to tip your barber? My guy asks for $10 no strings attached.
MasterCheeze
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I usually give a tip that falls in the 10%-15% range and evens out things to a whole dollar. I mean, it'd be better if tips didn't have to be a thing but it is what it is.
The place I get haircuts though is like $13 and I just give 'em a $20. That much for a fresh cut seems like a good deal since I only go every other month.
The place I get haircuts though is like $13 and I just give 'em a $20. That much for a fresh cut seems like a good deal since I only go every other month.
Unless you're some super high-profile barber, that sounds awful.
Fix that too!
"Costanza"ing it out of existence means hurting a lot of good people who rely on that tip. No, it should not be our responsibility to make up the difference for what employers aren't paying, but we are stuck with this system for the present time. Be smug about it and think me a fool all you want, but I'll happily toss a few extra bucks towards workers and do what I can to support the Fight for $15 and a Union movement to try and change the system.
This. It's like people don't get it. We aren't going to punish these workers just because the system isn't right, we understand how it is. They're just doing their jobs.
Who says it's our job to reward the workers?
There's a difference between it being a job and doing it because you understand what they're going through and how messed up it is. I'm not gonna say "sorry bro, I know you'll be short some dollars on your rent but the only way this system will change is if we stop now, you'll understand" or anything like that lmao.
Right.
Dudes don't really understand. I'm actually surprised people don't see this lol.
Because lower prices look better to the masses, which also allows for employers to just keep more profits for themselves.
It's a shitty system and I absolutely agree with the idea that we should just pay more to ensure everybody has a livable wage. But right now we are stuck with the system we have, and being a dick about tipping only hurts workers. Employers are already getting their cut regardless.
andrerobot
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greed?
Because the honest truth is no one will be willing to pay for it. People already love complaining about food costs in the current predicament without knowing anything behind the scene, so I'm not hopeful.
radios shipping overview
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Tip your barber! Tip your barber! Tip your barber!
They are expecting it!
They are expecting it!
This is spot on for the US.
But we have pretty reasonable prices here in Australia and pay our employees decent wage with no tipping system. You can have both low good prices and decent wages/no tipping it's just America doesn't want to because it's so engrained in your culture. Plus your businesses just want to screw people over hardcore (not saying they don't want to do that here, just we have laws in place to stop it).
blame space
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Something really needs to be changed imo. I've visited plenty of places in Asia and some not once have I encountered the American equivalent tip culture. Sure, tipping is a thing but that usually happens when people receive excellent service. No one was going to side eye me if I don't tip, even in countries that were in a far worse economic state than the US.
blame space
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I'm sure no one's getting fucked over in Asia ether..
I am agreeing with you here. Our system sucks.
But refusing to tip (and I mean in places where this system is in place) isn't going to be some huge big stand against the man that will make them realize they were wrong the whole time. They're still getting their cut regardless. Not tipping only hurts the worker.
It's not so much that I think Americans are fools. You guys are victims of a corrupt government.
milanbaros
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But people already are paying for it, aren't they? They just get to discriminate completely outside of employment law when they do it e.g tip minorties nothing but the hot girl double.
How About No
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Reservoir Dogs was 25 years ago
But not tipping will assuredly change the system
Keep on not giving tips you brave troopers (￣^￣
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But not tipping will assuredly change the system
Keep on not giving tips you brave troopers (￣^￣
ゞ
TheSadRanger
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I always tip at least $5 but I'm at the point where I only get a cut every few months now so I usually have to take a barber I don't know.
Which leads to me running into lazy barbers more often than not lately and doing shit like not sweeping off the hair from the back of my neck.
Last time I went when the woman ran her clippers through the sides and back of my head her blades were so dull they were pulling my hair out.
I remember asking her to use scissors first to trim it off before using clippers cause my hair is curly
This was at a place where adult male cuts cost $20-$25 to.
Which leads to me running into lazy barbers more often than not lately and doing shit like not sweeping off the hair from the back of my neck.
Last time I went when the woman ran her clippers through the sides and back of my head her blades were so dull they were pulling my hair out.
I remember asking her to use scissors first to trim it off before using clippers cause my hair is curly
This was at a place where adult male cuts cost $20-$25 to.
Anecdotal but where I live, most proper restaurants place XX% service charge on the receipt and they have a sign indicating that outside or within the menu.
ivanthebearable
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Question: If you only have enough for the fee and not any extra cash for a tip, is not-tipping wrong/something to be judged for?
As a student who has enough of a hard time paying for things as it is, sometimes I can't carry cash with me or am put in a situation where I only have enough for whatever I need to pay for. I've had people give a judging glance at me before for not giving anything, when I HAVE nothing to give and I don't really know how to take it.
As a student who has enough of a hard time paying for things as it is, sometimes I can't carry cash with me or am put in a situation where I only have enough for whatever I need to pay for. I've had people give a judging glance at me before for not giving anything, when I HAVE nothing to give and I don't really know how to take it.
jongkookie
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Just the tip the barber man.
I've been going to the same place for the last 8 years and I've been getting free haircuts, hair gels, and whatever on occasion since I'm a regular. I don't even tip that much, just $3 to round it out to $15 total.
I've been going to the same place for the last 8 years and I've been getting free haircuts, hair gels, and whatever on occasion since I'm a regular. I don't even tip that much, just $3 to round it out to $15 total.
At the place where I get my haircut, after swiping my credit card, the barber hands me their phone and the Square app asks if I'd like to tip 15, 20, or 25%.
Like this:
I have a no-tip policy for hair cutters because I don't want to enable tips becoming an obligatory thing for the hair industry, like restaurants.
So naturally, I press "NO TIP", hand the phone back to this person while avoiding eye contact, exchange a quick "thanks" and casually speed towards the door asap. It never stops being awkward.
Anyone else experience this awkward interaction every few weeks too?
PS. Food trucks do this too, but I feel way less awkward about it since...why the fuck would I tip a food truck?
You are a horrible person, and do not be surprised if you lose an ear during your next hair appointment.
Most salons work in a way that the person who cuts your hair rents a space at the salon. So the cost of the haircut is basically rent for the space. So if you do not tip, you are not fucking the salon, you are fucking the person cutting your hair. So congrats, you are a horrible person and diserve the awkward moment where you press no tip.
womfalcs3
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A 20-dollar hair cut better be magical.
You should feel ashamed for not rewarding them for doing their jobs.
Aaronology
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10 dollars? Really? No one touching my head is going to get 10 dollars for doing a good job. 15 or whatever the barber charges, whichever is higher, plus tip.
LambdaTeos
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HAHAHAHHA this is so fucking stupid, sorry man but if your service changes because a customer doesn´t give you extra money, it just makes you look like an asshole.
my job ethic should not change depending on who tips and who doesn´t
NOW; i am NOT against tipping people, but with an example as celar as this one? oh no, i would rather take my business elsewhere
Servers don't want it because they'd make a lot less since the business would pay less and there's taxes involved too. No more taking home $250, $500, $750 or what have you on a single good night tax free. It's just a bad deal for them. They'd be stupid to take that.
Restaurants aren't that thrilled about it either because the current system incentivizes the server greatly for selling shit and doesn't cost anything to them. Having to pay servers would mean obviously paying them but also being competitive compared to other local places. There's also overhead involved.
The customer, on the other hand, gets pretty good customer service. But then gets screwed with a 15-20% tax. The thing is, even if you did away with the tipping system, the customer would still pay that 15-20% but to the business instead of the server directly. For doing that the customer gets nothing. In fact, the customer loses control on how much to tip and IF to tip bad service.
So yeah, nobody wants to bother with this. I guess the only one that would win from the move is the government. You know, since a lot of servers under report tips.
Edit: Went for the restaurant example but this more or less applies to it all.
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