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[bigboss370]

watched this couple days ago, have a few other thoughts i may post later. overall i thought it was a good movie.

i don't think what David said to the engineer was what made it go violent, well not entirely. It's not until he touches David's head (in other words, notices that he's an android) that he flies off the handle. the whole theme of the movie is the tension between the creator and his creation, whether it is the Engineer and humans, mankind and robots (David), or parents and their children (Weyland and Vickers).

superiors tend to want to stay in power. Once the Engineer realizes humans have become creators (gods themselves, just like young Weyland says in the promo video), thus worshiping themselves, he knows he must punish/destroy them, as Zeus did to Prometheus.

also, anyone else think the engineer ship looks kinda like the serpent that was found inside?

 

[Count Dookkake]

Erm, that didn't seem to bother him the first time when he took off.

Wasn't he headed to Earth at that point?

 

[Freshmaker]

Besides being strong tall motherfuckers .... and creating an alien lifeform thing that bursts from your chest .... they didn't really look like they had traditional weapons.

Their ship didn't look like it had any missles/guns ... they certainly didn't have any. Maybe they were afraid for their future seeing how we could now move further into the galaxy with what weapons we did have? And all this gave them another reason to wipe us out with the xenos?

The way I'm guessing they operated, they had long passed the point where they had to fight wars up close. They simply distributed 4 ounces of that goo and they'd wipe out an entire planet's ecosystem and replace it with something that was suitable for their own use.

I really do think they were just looking to colonize Earth after seeding it long before. David summed it up. "To build, they must first tear down."

The whole "there were two goo's and there were factions of SJ's arguing over the fate of earth" stuff seems to be over complicating things and none of that's backed up by what's shown in the actual film.

 

[duckroll]

Besides being strong tall motherfuckers .... and creating an alien lifeform thing that bursts from your chest .... they didn't really look like they had traditional weapons.

Their ship didn't look like it had any missles/guns ... they certainly didn't have any. Maybe they were afraid for their future seeing how we could now move further into the galaxy with what weapons we did have? And all this gave them another reason to wipe us out with the xenos?

Their technology seems largely based on biological matter. Not just the goo and DNA manipulation, but the entire ship, the interiors, the doors, buttons, controls, walls, etc. Everything seems to be organic based instead of silicon based. The solid material they use resembles bone structure more than metal and plastic. It is possible that they did have weapons there, but they degraded over the ages. Or it is also possible that their concept of weaponry is completely different from ours.

 

[Freshmaker]

Their technology seems largely based on biological matter. Not just the goo and DNA manipulation, but the entire ship, the interiors, the doors, buttons, controls, walls, etc. Everything seems to be organic based instead of silicon based. The solid material they use resembles bone structure more than metal and plastic. It is possible that they did have weapons there, but they degraded over the ages. Or it is also possible that their concept of weaponry is completely different from ours.

Given that their only solution to the black goo problem 2,000 years ago was to run away and get their heads chopped off by doors etc, I don't think they had any weapons to start out with.

 

[duckroll]

Given that their only solution to the black goo problem 2,000 years ago was to run away and get their heads chopped off by doors etc, I don't think they had any weapons to start out with.

If you're working in a medical facility, and there's suddenly a viral outbreak in the labs, and you're running away as the entire facility gets locked down, why would weapons matter?

 

[Freshmaker]

If you're working in a medical facility, and there's suddenly a viral outbreak in the labs, and you're running away as the entire facility gets locked down, why would weapons matter?

It depends on the nature of the outbreak which was never made clear. Can't really call it a research facility either though. Smacked of a seed ship more than anything else.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Given that their only solution to the black goo problem 2,000 years ago was to run away and get their heads chopped off by doors etc, I don't think they had any weapons to start out with.

It's not really a problem that they didn't have weapons on them at that point in time, but its odd that they didn't purge the site after it was compromised, at least with atomics if they didn't feel safe clearing it room to room.

 

[Freshmaker]

It's not really a problem that they didn't have weapons on them at that point in time, but its odd that they didn't purge the site after it was compromised, at least with atomics if they didn't feel safe clearing it room to room.

Why do that when you can just put yourself down for a nice nap while the whole mess dies down?

 

[duckroll]

It depends on the nature of the outbreak which was never made clear. Can't really call it a research facility either though. Smacked of a seed ship more than anything else.

What is not made particularly clear in the film is where the ship ends and the facility begins. I think the intention is that much of the ruins they were investigating were a facility, and the ship is docked in it.

 

[Endo Punk]

So can the dicky engineer take on xeno from Alien?

 

[Mr Swine]

Well who needs weapons really when a Engineer can one hit a person with his fist and kill anyone. I guess the thing that spawned was simply far to strong to use weapons like we do. Kinda like taking a gun to fight a raging elephant

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

So new art has come out showing creature designs such as Fiefield definitely turning into a Xeno and the Deacon.

Fiefield:

Deacon:

And a ton more at the site

 

[Endo Punk]

What's a Deacon :? I don't remember that or who it's supposed to be... someone jog my memory.

Also designs are sexy as hell !

 

[Tookay]

Soooo much wasted potential. This was my most-anticipated movie of the year.

Visually, it was quite stunning. The soundtrack was great at times. The acting was good, for the most part.

I could write an essay on the film's negative aspects, but I'll just post the cliffnotes.

- There was no sustained sense of menace throughout the film. It was very stop and go, with no buildup. Every threat was dealt with quickly, and then a new, somewhat-unrelated one would appear.

- Aside from the c-section scene (which was MUCH tamer than some of you guys made it out to be; I swear some of you have no intestinal fortitude), everything good in the movie, all the scenes that made you want to watch it in the first place, all happen in the last 10-15 minutes.

- The threats that the crew did have to deal with were not very intimidating. Basically you have a black goo snake, which appears once and then never again, an infected Holloway, who throws some people around and is promptly put down, a giant facehugger that never threatens a human character, and an 8-foot tall albino, who is basically this movie's version of Sunshine's Pinbacker (i.e. he sucks). Not a single threat that made me feel afraid for any of the characters, aside from the squid fetus.

- How the fuck does a character run around after her abdomen has just been cut open and sutured shut? I'll let this one slide; maybe medical technology in 2094 can instantly bind muscle tissue together again, but it seemed weird. Anyway, this is a minor problem.


I think the movie suffered too much from Ridley wanting to distance it from Alien. We could have had a much better film if some decent monsters had been introduced halfway through. Anything to create sustained suspense, really. I never felt on edge for more than a few minutes at a time. Even Alien 3 and Resurrection managed to keep an aura of suspense and terror going for longer periods.

Well said. Totally agree with this analysis, particularly the lack of building tension or malice. This movie feels very episodic in its threats, ending each one as quickly as they were introduced.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

What's a Deacon :? I don't remember that or who it's supposed to be... someone jog my memory.

Also designs are sexy as hell !

The "proto-alien" at the end of the film at burst out of the Engineer.

And yeah, I dunno wtf happened, those designs are fantastic.. Worst of all, it really seems they filmed the more alien looking Fiefield:

 

[ChocolatePuddin]

Ok I have been thinking about a few problems with this movie for awhile.Dont get me wrong I enjoyed it, I think it was a great journey but there are some things that just piss me off every time I think about it.I will list the problems I have below, maybe I am a dumbass and there are logical explanations for these problems, but please someone shed some light.

1.)When they landed on the planet they just landed randomly and it just so happened to be right next to the place they needed to be?

2.)The team of scientists were supposed to be the best that earth had, but they were a bunch of drunken pirates!.I have a few examples of why they could have just sent any group of people up.Almost every scene of the movie the crew are drinking booze.The scene were the captain picks up a movement ping in the tunnel,were his two guys are trapped, and then he says haha k cool guys good luck with that I'm gonna go shag that blond chick! WTF!!!

3.)They open the space ship door to just any noise they hear on an alien planet, what the hell is wrong with these people ?They must of had a camera by the door why not look at the camera and see, wait that shit doesn't look right lets not open the door an let it fuck us all up.

4.)The alien cobra thing, this is one of the worst scene I have come across in a long time.The alien cobra flares out, which everyone knows is a sign that something feels threatened and the fact that it looks like a fucking cobra when it does it the guy should of thought wow, I shouldn't touch that it could be dangerous.But no he tries to play with the fucking thing!And it eats his asshole.

5.)At the very end when the chick survives the whole traumatic experience instead of going back to earth and saying, fuck guys guess what we found, this information could possibly be of some use to human kind.And who the fuck knows they actually might try to wipe us out we should be alert.No! shes like hey take our ship to the engineers planet where they will probably rip our faces off withing 10 seconds of touching down on the planet ! why ! its sooooooo stupid.

6.)The fact that the brunette chick rolled 47 cm to her right after she had tripped while running away from the crashing ship and survived, and the blond chick ran another 500m in the same direction that the ship was falling in and could of just stepped 4 feet either left or right and not gotten crushed.

So there are just a few of the problems that I cant accept and ruin the movie for me, please can some one correct me if I'm wrong but otherwise, dear gosh what were they fucking thinking?

 

[Zeliard]

i don't think what David said to the engineer was what made it go violent, well not entirely. It's not until he touches David's head (in other words, notices that he's an android) that he flies off the handle. the whole theme of the movie is the tension between the creator and his creation, whether it is the Engineer and humans, mankind and robots (David), or parents and their children (Weyland and Vickers).

From the Engineer's point of view, the practical, glaring problem with David being an android is the span of time the Engineer would surmise must have passed while he was in stasis for humans to be able to create such a thing (not to mention travel there), and so compounded with his fallen brethren set off a great sense of urgency.

Probably didn't help that David was (presumably) campaigning for Weyland, a supremely arrogant person yearning for immortality.

If you're an Engineer who went into stasis thinking that humanity must be wiped out, and you're awoken by a group of humans led by an android who has learned your language and is asking for the elixir of life, you're probably going to do something like rip that android's head off and beat his maker down with it. Whole lotta hubris in that room at that point.

 

[CartridgeBlower]

The "proto-alien" at the end of the film at burst out of the Engineer.

And yeah, I dunno wtf happened, those designs are fantastic.. Worst of all, it really seems they filmed the more alien looking Fiefield:

Yeah, it even looks like his head matches the sketches more, kind of half-human, half-xenomorph, which seems like it would make MUCH MORE SENSE than just HE'S A FUCKING ZOMBIE.

It seems like maybe the script might have had more structure with each creature and monster becoming more like the xenomorph, leading up to the Deacon at the end of the film. But for some reason, that was all cut and reworked in post after filming was completed, and changed in editing. I would love to know the reason why, because it seems like it made the film's creatures much more generic and hurt the spin of the story. Crazy stuff.

 

[Rodney McKay]

2.)The team of scientists were supposed to be the best that earth had, but they were a bunch of drunken pirates!.I have a few examples of why they could have just sent any group of people up.Almost every scene of the movie the crew are drinking booze.The scene were the captain picks up a movement ping in the tunnel,were his two guys are trapped, and then he says haha k cool guys good luck with that I'm gonna go shag that blond chick! WTF!!!

Yeah, the scientists they had on the ship were hilariously incompetent.
-You've got the two main archeologists. They made the initial discovery, but on the planet they don't really do anything (David does all the translating and figuring shit out).
-There's the geologist who maps the cavern out, but I don't recall him studying any minerals or showing any interest in being on an alien planet that should have tons of awesome rocks and shit.
-There's a botanist guy who I don't recall looks at a single plant.
-There's a medical doctor lady (maybe a biologist, I can't remember) the only thing I remember is her or someone else having the BRILLIANT idea of shoving a gizmo into a newly discovered alien to try and reanimate it or something? That was the one head they had found! I'm sure there are a few less risky tests they could run first!

David seems like the only character in the film that was actually actively doing anything. Maybe that's a symptom of the film taking place over 2 or 3 days.

 

[blainethemono]

How was David even able to fly the ship at the end. I mean, he didnt seem capable of doing anything other than lie there and move his arms around when he got his head ripped off, and if Shaw was able to put his head back on, wouldn't she have just done it before instead of lowering his body down and stuffing his head in a duffel bag? Are we to just assume she was able to get his head put back onto his body before they took off in the other ship

 

[ChocolatePuddin]

Yeah, the scientists they had on the ship were hilariously incompetent.
-You've got the two main archeologists. They made the initial discovery, but on the planet they don't really do anything (David does all the translating and figuring shit out).
-There's the geologist who maps the cavern out, but I don't recall him studying any minerals or showing any interest in being on an alien planet that should have tons of awesome rocks and shit.
-There's a botanist guy who I don't recall looks at a single plant.
-There's a medical doctor lady (maybe a biologist, I can't remember) the only thing I remember is her or someone else having the BRILLIANT idea of shoving a gizmo into a newly discovered alien to try and reanimate it or something? That was the one head they had found! I'm sure there are a few less risky tests they could run first!

David seems like the only character in the film that was actually actively doing anything. Maybe that's a symptom of the film taking place over 2 or 3 days.

Exactly, they all supposedly were experts in their fields and then you get a scene where they try and cuddle the alien cobra! David should of killed them all for being such fucking retards, and just said that they died from alien flu or some crap like that. and then carried on with the mission himself! You feel ZERO connection and ZERO sympathy for the characters because they are such useless pieces of shit! That just drink and shag all day long on the ship! I was happy every time one of them died, maybe that's what Ridley Scott intended to make it an uplifting comedy?

 

[Helmholtz]

1.)When they landed on the planet they just landed randomly and it just so happened to be right next to the place they needed to be?

Iirc, they had to fly around in the ship a bit before they came across the alien ships.
The rest of the things you don't like are pretty much a what a lot of people in this thread didn't like, which is the characters acting stupid at times. However, when it comes to the woman getting crushed at the end, my interpretation is that since she had just crash landed in that escape pod, she was probably pretty disoriented. And I'm guessing that Shaw wants to get some answers from the engineers after everything that she's gone through, rather than go back to Earth fairly empty handed (aside from telling them about all the fucked up shit that went down).

 

[Spotless Mind]

It seems like maybe the script might have had more structure with each creature and monster becoming more like the xenomorph, leading up to the Deacon at the end of the film. But for some reason, that was all cut and reworked in post after filming was completed, and changed in editing. I would love to know the reason why, because it seems like it made the film's creatures much more generic and hurt the spin of the story. Crazy stuff.

To make it more ambiguous, i'm guessing. Can't make it clear for the audience! Endless speculation obviously makes a movie more intelligent!

 

[ChocolatePuddin]

Iirc, they had to fly around in the ship a bit before they came across the alien ships.
The rest of the things you don't like are pretty much a what a lot of people in this thread didn't like, which is the characters acting stupid at times. However, when it comes to the woman getting crushed at the end, my interpretation is that since she had just crash landed in that escape pod, she was probably pretty disoriented. And I'm guessing that Shaw wants to get some answers from the engineers after everything that she's gone through, rather than go back to Earth fairly empty handed (aside from telling them about all the fucked up shit that went down).

Empty handed? She had mind blowing information about an alien race that David had no doubt recorded on to his memory, she could of saved human kind with the information she had, but she chose instant death by going to the engineers planet.Its Dumb...its trying to be dramatic but its just plain DUMB.

 

[duckroll]

However, when it comes to the woman getting crushed at the end, my interpretation is that since she had just crash landed in that escape pod, she was probably pretty disoriented.

The problem with the scene is that the entire sequence is so poorly written. They tried to create extra tension for the character by making her struggle to the escape pod, make it out just in time, survive, and then start running from a collapsing alien ship, before getting crushed. It's prolonged, pointless, and honestly... just stupid.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Soooo much wasted potential. This was my most-anticipated movie of the year.

Visually, it was quite stunning. The soundtrack was great at times. The acting was good, for the most part.

I could write an essay on the film's negative aspects, but I'll just post the cliffnotes.

- There was no sustained sense of menace throughout the film. It was very stop and go, with no buildup. Every threat was dealt with quickly, and then a new, somewhat-unrelated one would appear.

- Aside from the c-section scene (which was MUCH tamer than some of you guys made it out to be; I swear some of you have no intestinal fortitude), everything good in the movie, all the scenes that made you want to watch it in the first place, all happen in the last 10-15 minutes.

- The threats that the crew did have to deal with were not very intimidating. Basically you have a black goo snake, which appears once and then never again, an infected Holloway, who throws some people around and is promptly put down, a giant facehugger that never threatens a human character, and an 8-foot tall albino, who is basically this movie's version of Sunshine's Pinbacker (i.e. he sucks). Not a single threat that made me feel afraid for any of the characters, aside from the squid fetus.

- How the fuck does a character run around after her abdomen has just been cut open and sutured shut? I'll let this one slide; maybe medical technology in 2094 can instantly bind muscle tissue together again, but it seemed weird. Anyway, this is a minor problem.


I think the movie suffered too much from Ridley wanting to distance it from Alien. We could have had a much better film if some decent monsters had been introduced halfway through. Anything to create sustained suspense, really. I never felt on edge for more than a few minutes at a time. Even Alien 3 and Resurrection managed to keep an aura of suspense and terror going for longer periods.

Pretty much agree with this 100%.

So does anyone else agree that:

1) The film failed to establish any sustained feeling of suspense/horror, and

2) It desperately needed more monsters/threats of some kind?

Absolutely!

 

[Zeliard]

The problem with the scene is that the entire sequence is so poorly written. They tried to create extra tension for the character by making her struggle to the escape pod, make it out just in time, survive, and then start running from a collapsing alien ship, before getting crushed. It's prolonged, pointless, and honestly... just stupid.

I found it darkly comedic, and ironic.

She escapes the kamikaze ship with mere seconds to spare only to end up being crushed by the very same ship that was being targeted by the one she escaped from.

It also fits into the film's theme of self-sacrifice. She didn't want to accept sacrificial death and wanted to live (not altogether unreasonable in those circumstances), and much like her father, she paid the ultimate price for it.

It's the editing in the second half of the movie that is truly problematic. The pacing is all over the place and the sequencing of events is strange in many cases. I would really love to read the script and see what that looks like.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Just got back from seeing the film, and while I was aware it had a mixed reception I didn't really read into it to avoid spoilers. While I personally quite enjoyed it, I do agree that sans David the rest of the cast is just sort of 'there' in comparison to how memorable the original Alien human characters were. Mostly to do with the script; it's ironic (and I honestly can't tell if it's intentional or not) that David comes across as the most relatable character when you're probably supposed to feel uneasy about him both due to his actions and lack of empathy for others while the other characters while not being annoying do feel a bit wooden and fake. In the original Alien even the way everybody talks feels very organic and I didn't really get this at all in this film.

While it's been awhile since I've seen Aliens or anything beyond it, I don't really remember there being zombies so the biologist coming back from the dead to attack the ship felt a bit random (didn't help the scene lasted a few minutes at most). That being said besides the kind of outofplace SPACE ZOMBIES I liked the new creature designs and feel relying too much on the original xenomorphs would've drawn too many comparisons to Alien instead of letting Prometheus be its own thing. Hell, half the group I saw it with wasn't even aware this was a psuedo-Alien prequel!

Considering this thread is already huge, are there any particularly noteworthy posts here which give a good rundown about why this film was good or bad? More from an Alien franchise fan's point of view preferably.

 

[Jackson]

Just watched this movie. It was a piece of garbage.

The story was so on the nose it was painful. Also the ship interior and crew looked like they came straight out of Mass Effect instead of the gritty, sterile Aliens I know a love.

Also proto-alien at the end makes no sense when alien Jesus sculpture exists before it in the caverns.

 

[daviyoung]

Absolutely!

I wanted that. I got this instead. Movie fails.

 

[isamu]

It showed an exact match - and this movie takes place decades ahead of us with pretty high tech so I'm not sure about the margin of error.



Here, think about this to get started. Squid baby blues.

Good theory

 

[sohois]

So maybe this has been asked already and I see some posts above talking about similar issues, but the decision at the end to fly off in the engineer spaceship doesn't make sense.

First of all, how would Shaw survive on the Alien ship? Did she have any food, water, that kind of thing? I suppose she could have used those 'hypersleep' things, but then that raises the question of what would happen to David. Would he be able to pilot the ship as just a head, or are we to assume he was repaired somehow? Then there is the question of how he would survive without any energy source. What powers him? At the beginning he is shown eating, that is before any of the humans are awoken so its safe to assume he can gain energy from that, and it would also be a safe assumption that he could be powered in other ways, but who's to say this alien ship will have the means to power him?

Secondly, the decision to just fly off to the engineer homeworld is idiotic. What is to stop Shaw from returning to Earth in the ship, saying "Hey Earth, we found our creators homeworld, also they want to kill us all, give me like a million robots and scientists and nukes and shit, and let's go meet this dicks." It's hardly as though the alien ship wold suddenly forget where its homeworld is if they returned to earth, or that it would spontaneously implode or something, returning to Earth first is the much smarter option.

I should say that otherwise I liked the film a lot (Incidentally I have never seen Alien and don't give a crap about it)

 

[Lich_King]

I just watched the movie and then spent couple of hours reading stuff about it because I couldn't believe what I saw.

Prometheus feels like Mass Effect 3 ending for Alien universe. I'm gonna go cry myself to sleep now. Space Jesus.

 

[BuddyJoeHooker]

So maybe this has been asked already and I see some posts above talking about similar issues, but the decision at the end to fly off in the engineer spaceship doesn't make sense.

First of all, how would Shaw survive on the Alien ship? Did she have any food, water, that kind of thing? I suppose she could have used those 'hypersleep' things, but then that raises the question of what would happen to David. Would he be able to pilot the ship as just a head, or are we to assume he was repaired somehow? Then there is the question of how he would survive without any energy source. What powers him? At the beginning he is shown eating, that is before any of the humans are awoken so its safe to assume he can gain energy from that, and it would also be a safe assumption that he could be powered in other ways, but who's to say this alien ship will have the means to power him?

Secondly, the decision to just fly off to the engineer homeworld is idiotic. What is to stop Shaw from returning to Earth in the ship, saying "Hey Earth, we found our creators homeworld, also they want to kill us all, give me like a million robots and scientists and nukes and shit, and let's go meet this dicks." It's hardly as though the alien ship wold suddenly forget where its homeworld is if they returned to earth, or that it would spontaneously implode or something, returning to Earth first is the much smarter option.

I should say that otherwise I liked the film a lot (Incidentally I have never seen Alien and don't give a crap about it)

Then why ask these question?

Shaw wants to meet her makers, that is it. She wants to know why they want to destroy their creations. She doesn't care to go back to earth, or else she would have told David to send her home. It mattered to her to save it at least but she probably feels she no longer has a place there. Shaw and David can both use the stasis pods just like a certain android did in Alien. Also the life boat is sustainable for the trip back to earth as explained by Vickers. Also Earth probably isn't in danger it's still there in Alien, I'd be worried about Shaw causing the extinction of the engineers, with a Deacon stowaway.

 

[televator]

And a ton more at the site

The more I look through the deacon stuff, the more it becomes apparent to me that the aim was to make a "proto-xenomorph."

 

[watershed]

The "proto-alien" at the end of the film at burst out of the Engineer.

And yeah, I dunno wtf happened, those designs are fantastic.. Worst of all, it really seems they filmed the more alien looking Fiefield:

Man it looks like things really got shifted around at some point in the editing process Makes me wonder what the movie could have been.

 

[zoukka]

Erm, that didn't seem to bother him the first time when he took off.

It's because hours later, Shaw would be the last human in existence. The bombing run was way more important than running after her.

The problem with the scene is that the entire sequence is so poorly written. They tried to create extra tension for the character by making her struggle to the escape pod, make it out just in time, survive, and then start running from a collapsing alien ship, before getting crushed. It's prolonged, pointless, and honestly... just stupid.

People running away from their impending doom is in every single movie that has action elements.

 

[Nick Laslett]

Prometheus has 2 origin stories to tell, the Xenomorph and Ellen Ripley.

After my 2nd viewing of the film I'm more convinced than ever that Vickers survived being crushed by Engineer horseshoe ship.

She had sex with Janek and is now pregnant with Ellen Ripley. Vickers is Ripley's mom!

According to current Alien mythos Ripley's birth date is Jan 7th 2092. The incidents in Prometheus take place from 21st Dec to Jan 1st 2093.

Obviously the current recorded birthdate for Ripley is a cover up to obscure the truth.

When Janek ejects the Lifeboat. He says that it will provide life for 2 years. That is enough time for rescue mission to arrive from Earth.

We know from other material that the Deacon Alien leaves the Lifeboat and is seen heading for another Horseshoe ship.

Why set Prometheus so close to Ripley's recorded birth date?

Why have Janek and Vickers have sex, but leave the whole thing vague?

Also before anyone asks, Shaw only has 2 minutes oxygen left after Horseshoe ship crash because she was part of the team that went with Weyland to meet the Engineer. Whereas Vickers had only just left the main ship so had a full supply of oxygen.

*Edit: Also forgot to mention that Ripley will be born in the Lifeboat, which is where the Deacon Alien was born. Of course the Deacon Alien becomes the Queen Alien from LV426, which Ripley will finally kill in Aliens. How is that for circular reference?

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Are you saying that Ripley is black?

 

[duckroll]

It's because hours later, Shaw would be the last human in existence. The bombing run was way more important than running after her.

Exactly. And there are other ships.

 

[Nick Laslett]

Are you saying that Ripley is black?

Just like the Space Jesus stuff, Ridley Scott did not want to be too on the nose, hence obscuring DOBs and giving Ripley a mixed race parentage

 

[zoukka]

Exactly. And there are other ships.

Engineers can get pissed too.

 

[MadOdorMachine]

I have a few questions about the movie.

1. When the humans first arrive to the planet they find a mural of the Xenomorph in one of the rooms with the jars. Doesn't that mean the Xenomorph wasn't random and that the Engineer's knew what would come? The Engineer at the end didn't seem surprised when he saw the squid/face hugger at the end.

2. On Earth they showed an Engineer drink the black goo. He then died and his remnants created life on Earth. Was it intentional for him to kill himself? Also, wasn't the whole purpose of him doing so to create humans so the humans can then be given the Xenomorph goo?

3. Did this take place on the same planet as the movie Alien?

 

[zoukka]

I have a few questions about the movie.

1. When the humans first arrive to the planet they find a mural of the Xenomorph in one of the rooms with the jars. Doesn't that mean the Xenomorph wasn't random and that the Engineer's knew what would come? The Engineer at the end didn't seem surprised when he saw the squid/face hugger at the end.

Correct.

2. On Earth they showed an Engineer drink the black goo. He then died and his remnants created life on Earth. Was it intentional for him to kill himself? Also, wasn't the whole purpose of him doing so to create humans so the humans can then be given the Xenomorph goo?

Again correct. It was self sacrifice.

 

[D.Lo]

also, anyone else think the engineer ship looks kinda like the serpent that was found inside?

The original ship was designed to evoke fallopian tube/uterus imagery. Alien is dense with a quite brilliant sexual/reproductive subtext. Something Prometheus somehow seemed to miss/ignore despite Scott having helmed both...

 

[MadOdorMachine]

Correct.



Again correct. It was self sacrifice.

So they created humans on Earth just to make Xenomorphs? That means that Shaw's boyfriends DNA could still create life somehow then too.

 

[zoukka]

The original ship was designed to evoke fallopian tube/uterus imagery. Alien is dense with a quite brilliant sexual/reproductive subtext. Something Prometheus somehow seemed to miss/ignore despite Scott having helmed both...

The cobra looks like a cock with a vagina on it...

So they created humans on Earth just to make Xenomorphs? That means that Shaw's boyfriends DNA could still create life somehow then too.

Can't say it's the only reason, but one of them sure.

 

[D.Lo]

And I'm guessing that Shaw wants to get some answers from the engineers after everything that she's gone through, rather than go back to Earth fairly empty handed (aside from telling them about all the fucked up shit that went down).

Empty handed except for an entire Alien ship.

 

[zoukka]

There's not way Shaw would take that cargo to earth.