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CoffeeJanitor said:
I thought David spiked the drink because Keanu Reeves' clone was being an asshole to him all movie long
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He spiked it because he would do anything to meet the engineers. He also took off his helmet, showing reckless disregard for his life in the name of proving things. And he went after Shaw in the sandstorm.

David gave it to him, because he thought he would be down with it.
 
CoffeeJanitor said:
As someone who loves animals and reacts like that in real life....Didn't seem that out of the ordinary to me. Completely stupid? Yes. But not that crazy.
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But they didn't show him to be that type of guy. It's not natural for that character to react that way, because they didn't show him to be a lover of animals or anything like that. They showed that he was scared and wanted to just get back to the ship. Now all of a sudden he wants to pet space monsters.


Flo_Evans said:
He spiked it because he would do anything to meet the engineers. He also took off his helmet, showing reckless disregard for his life in the name of proving things. And he went after Shaw in the sandstorm.

David gave it to him, because he thought he would be down with it.
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I think David was just using him as a lab rat basically. Because he has no regard for human life. He's an early model of android (prototype even, maybe), you see, he's more Ash than Bishop. His primary objective was to find a way to extend Weyland's life, so he used Holloway in an experiment.
 
agrajag said:
But they didn't show him to be that type of guy. It's not natural for that character to react that way, because they didn't show him to be a lover of animals or anything like that. They showed that he was scared and wanted to just get back to the ship. Now all of a sudden he wants to pet space monsters.
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I think the rational is that he beingbiologist = "I inherenty love animals!" Not a very good one... but I guess since the space snake didn't appear to have fangs or anything dangerous he wasn't too worried?

I don't know, I feel like there should have been a bit more to his actual character beyond that assumption.
 
Just saw it a second time. Things that stood out to me that I hadn't seen mentioned here last time I checked:

There's not a lot of consistency with scale. First case being the head of the engineer. The thing was massive on the examination table however could fit in a bag on Elizabeth's lap when coming back to the ship. What?
Second was frustrating. Elizabeth is lying beneath the engineer ship after it has crashed (almost having been crushed) when her suit says 'air supply 2 minutes'. We then see her walking towards the life boat just as her oxygen is depleting (30 seconds left). 1 minute 30 second journey.
HOWEVER: after escaping the life boat battle she has to get on one of the ATV vehicles to drive what is revealed to be a large journey from the life boat back to the crashed ship. Waaay more than 1 minute and 30 seconds long on foot. Frustrating.


Secondly was the absolute idiocy of whoever was driving the armoured vehicle. As the storm was approaching the crew at the exploration site had to head back. The majority of the crew had used the armoured vehicle to get to the site, and the remaining few used the 1 person (2 when using the storage basket) ATV's to get there.

This means that whoever the fuck was driving the armoured vehicle knew that they didn't have the same amount of crew they took to the site, leaving an disproportionate amount of transports to personnel for the rest of the crew to get back, in the event they all made it to the surface in time. Fucking stupid carelessness.


I didn't mind the film upon first viewing, but the second time got me down big time :(
 
Eye Drop said:
Just saw it a second time. Things that stood out to me that I hadn't seen mentioned here last time I checked:

There's not a lot of consistency with scale. First case being the head of the engineer. The thing was massive on the examination table however could fit in a bag on Elizabeth's lap when coming back to the ship. What?
Second was frustrating. Elizabeth is lying beneath the engineer ship after it has crashed (almost having been crushed) when her suit says 'air supply 2 minutes'. We then see her walking towards the life boat just as her oxygen is depleting (30 seconds left). 1 minute 30 second journey.
HOWEVER: after escaping the life boat battle she has to get on one of the ATV vehicles to drive what is revealed to be a large journey from the life boat back to the crashed ship. Waaay more than 1 minute and 30 seconds long on foot. Frustrating.


Secondly was the absolute idiocy of whoever was driving the armoured vehicle. As the storm was approaching the crew at the exploration site had to head back. The majority of the crew had used the armoured vehicle to get to the site, and the remaining few used the 1 person (2 when using the storage basket) ATV's to get there.

This means that whoever the fuck was driving the armoured vehicle knew that they didn't have the same amount of crew they took to the site, leaving an disproportionate amount of transports to personnel for the rest of the crew to get back, in the event they all made it to the surface in time. Fucking stupid carelessness.


I didn't mind the film upon first viewing, but the second time got me down big time :(
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The fact that the captain didn't just park Prometheus closer to the alien ship kept bothering me whenever they showed shots of the crew ferrying back and forth
 
CoffeeJanitor said:
As someone who loves animals and reacts like that in real life....Didn't seem that out of the ordinary to me. Completely stupid? Yes. But not that crazy.
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What makes it particularly crazy is that they were fearful about finding anything in there. When Janek noted the source of the "glitch" was to their west, they made it a point to head east because they're not trying to encounter a living entity of any sort in that place, which is totally understandable.

But then they come across one and they act like this very cobra-like alien thing hissing at them and rearing its head back in threatening fashion is something to be taken lightly.

Erigu said:
[subtle]"It's from a movie I like."[/subtle]
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Bot's a connoisseur of fine art.
 
Eye Drop said:
Just saw it a second time. Things that stood out to me that I hadn't seen mentioned here last time I checked:

There's not a lot of consistency with scale. First case being the head of the engineer. The thing was massive on the examination table however could fit in a bag on Elizabeth's lap when coming back to the ship. What?
Second was frustrating. Elizabeth is lying beneath the engineer ship after it has crashed (almost having been crushed) when her suit says 'air supply 2 minutes'. We then see her walking towards the life boat just as her oxygen is depleting (30 seconds left). 1 minute 30 second journey.
HOWEVER: after escaping the life boat battle she has to get on one of the ATV vehicles to drive what is revealed to be a large journey from the life boat back to the crashed ship. Waaay more than 1 minute and 30 seconds long on foot. Frustrating.


Secondly was the absolute idiocy of whoever was driving the armoured vehicle. As the storm was approaching the crew at the exploration site had to head back. The majority of the crew had used the armoured vehicle to get to the site, and the remaining few used the 1 person (2 when using the storage basket) ATV's to get there.

This means that whoever the fuck was driving the armoured vehicle knew that they didn't have the same amount of crew they took to the site, leaving an disproportionate amount of transports to personnel for the rest of the crew to get back, in the event they all made it to the surface in time. Fucking stupid carelessness.


I didn't mind the film upon first viewing, but the second time got me down big time :(
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When she reached the lifeboat, the first thing she did was rummage around in the airlock for some canisters. I assumed that she used a canister to recharge her suit's oxygen supply.


Zeliard said:
What makes it particularly crazy is that they were fearful about finding anything in there. When Janek noted the source of the "glitch" was to their west, they made it a point to head east because they're not trying to encounter a living entity of any sort in that place, which is totally understandable.

But then they come across one and they act like this very cobra-like alien thing hissing at them and rearing its head back in threatening fashion is something to be taken lightly.
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Most of my main problems with the movie were related to those two guys. You got lost? Really?? Instead of hanging out by the door waiting for the storm to die down, you cozy up in the creepy pod alter room? You continue to reach out and try to touch an obviously threatened alien life form?

It would've been much better if they went off to go check another room while the whole group was there, got the call that they needed to leave immediately, and just couldn't make it out in time. They could be sitting outside of the alter, and then a worm slithers out of the door. The biologist is curious, even though the geologist warns him. Then the worm gets closer and starts attacking the biologist's arm.

I still liked it a lot though. I wonder if there will be a director's cut.
 
storl026 said:
When she reached the lifeboat, the first thing she did was rummage around in the airlock for some canisters. I assumed that she used a canister to recharge her suit's oxygen supply.
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The lifeboat AI/computer also says something like oxygen levels normal or something to that effect. I assume the suit fills up on oxygen as soon as she closes the airlock.

She starts to rummage for the canisters after that.
 
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storl026 said:
When she reached the lifeboat, the first thing she did was rummage around in the airlock for some canisters. I assumed that she used a canister to recharge her suit's oxygen supply.
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Sorry, to clarify I meant that the distance between the life boat and the Engineer ship was inconsistent, considering she got from the latter to the former in 1 minute 30 when the trek is later revealed to be of a greater distance than one that would have taken 1 minute and 30 seconds.

I also assumed she filled the oxygen back up, didn't even consider it really, haha.
 
Eye Drop said:
Sorry, to clarify I meant that the distance between the life boat and the Engineer ship was inconsistent, considering she got from the latter to the former in 1 minute 30 when the trek is later revealed to be of a greater distance than one that would have taken 1 minute and 30 seconds.

I also assumed she filled the oxygen back up, didn't even consider it really, haha.
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It did seem like a long way to run in a minute- thirty. Maybe the computer just underestimated the oxygen level. I'm sorry I misread your post, you seem to have a problem with the scale changing from a minute- thirty on-foot to a loooong journey on an ATV. I agree that doesn't make a lot of sense. The first time the computer warned her there was two minutes of oxygen, I saw how far away the lifeboat was and I thought she'd never make it. The scale was kind of messed up.

It's weird that the movie is just filled with little things for which you have to come up with your own explanation. Some people are really turned off by it, but I kind of like the discussion that it's creating. But then other things seem like they could just be sloppy writing disguised as thought-provoking writing.
 
storl026 said:
It's weird that the movie is just filled with little things for which you have to come up with your own explanation. Some people are really turned off by it, but I kind of like the discussion that it's creating. But then other things seem like they could just be sloppy writing disguised as thought-provoking writing.
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It's definitely generating buzz and the film has its merits. I'm just a bit disappointed by inconsistencies. Here's hoping a sequel clears everything up.

Does anyone know if any of the crew will be making appearances at Comic-Con or anything of the sort? Should we expect explanations to be made outside of the films?
 
duckroll said:
You know another scene that really bothered me? When David is taking the vase apart and then eventually finds the black goo sample thing inside the vase within the vase, and then he holds the little black thing up on his finger directly at the camera and goes "Big things... have small beginnings."

It's really a bit much. I even giggled at it in the cinema. There is really zero reason for him to do that, and I really hate these tacky "nudge nudge wink wink" moments where the characters basically play out for the audience and no one else.
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I disagree a bit because much like the engineer hearbeat scene, those moments were so grand and in a sense revolutionary to Davids artifical mind, he just couldn't contain it. It's silly for an android to do so, but they clearly wanted to communicate that David either has real emotions or cannot control some of the functions that mask his android nature.

Damn I grinned when the hearbeat started to pump :3
 
zoukka said:
I disagree a bit because much like the engineer hearbeat scene, those moments were so grand and in a sense revolutionary to Davids artifical mind, he just couldn't contain it. It's silly for an android to do so, but they clearly wanted to communicate that David either has real emotions or cannot control some of the functions that mask his android nature.

Damn I grinned when the hearbeat started to pump :3
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The latter if probable. the former would have resulted in the goo reacting to him, if we're to follow the theory that the goo reacts to emotion/mental state. I agree with your point though.
 
I didn't have a problem with the big things line. It was a) a reference to the movies - this being a preque to all the alien flicksl, b) a reference to the goo/virus. quite clever I thought.
 
"Big things have small beginnings" is a line from Lawrence of Arabia, and is to do with the Arab uprising against the Turks.

David is conflicted, like Lawrence. On one hand he has duties to the humans, but he does not like them. They treat him like dirt, even though he knows he's superior to them in many ways. "The trick is not minding it hurts."

He knows it's not right to test the goo on Holloway, but it will probably make him understand and become closer to the Engineers, who he feels he has closer affinity with than the humans.
 
Pachterballs said:
I didn't have a problem with the big things line. It was a) a reference to the movies - this being a preque to all the alien flicksl, b) a reference to the goo/virus. quite clever I thought.
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Not to mention being a line in 'Lawrence of Arabia'.

edit: beaten like Weyland.
 
symphonask said:
"Big things have small beginnings" is a line from Lawrence of Arabia, and is to do with the Arab uprising against the Turks.

David is conflicted, like Lawrence. On one hand he has duties to the humans, but he does not like them. They treat him like dirt, even though he knows he's superior to them in many ways. "The trick is not minding it hurts."

He knows it's not right to test the goo on Holloway, but it will probably make him understand and become closer to the Engineers, who he feels he has closer affinity with than the humans.
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Nice.
 
symphonask said:
"Big things have small beginnings" is a line from Lawrence of Arabia, and is to do with the Arab uprising against the Turks.

David is conflicted, like Lawrence. On one hand he has duties to the humans, but he does not like them. They treat him like dirt, even though he knows he's superior to them in many ways. "The trick is not minding it hurts."

He knows it's not right to test the goo on Holloway, but it will probably make him understand and become closer to the Engineers, who he feels he has closer affinity with than the humans.
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He gave Holloway the goo because Weyland told him to try harder. Curiosity and animosity for Holloway helped too.
 
duckroll said:
You know another scene that really bothered me? When David is taking the vase apart and then eventually finds the black goo sample thing inside the vase within the vase, and then he holds the little black thing up on his finger directly at the camera and goes "Big things... have small beginnings."

It's really a bit much. I even giggled at it in the cinema. There is really zero reason for him to do that, and I really hate these tacky "nudge nudge wink wink" moments where the characters basically play out for the audience and no one else.
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Shame you couldn't help but ruin the atmosphere in the theatre during what was a great scene.
 
Karma Kramer said:
What do you mean?
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In an interview he hinted that there's a reason they're the only humanoid bipeds on a planet full of hexapods.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43923

CAMERON: There's a reason they look like humans, but it hasn't been revealed yet...


COPERNICUS: You mean like in a future film?

[Cameron answered in a way that I took to be affirmative, but I can't remember if he said yes, or nodded, or just smiled]

COPERNICUS: Like they were seeded....

CAMERON: No... well... [I suspect changing the subject because he didn't want to reveal anything.] The real reason is that they have to be similar enough that the audience can connect with them.
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duckroll said:
You know another scene that really bothered me? When David is taking the vase apart and then eventually finds the black goo sample thing inside the vase within the vase, and then he holds the little black thing up on his finger directly at the camera and goes "Big things... have small beginnings."

It's really a bit much. I even giggled at it in the cinema. There is really zero reason for him to do that, and I really hate these tacky "nudge nudge wink wink" moments where the characters basically play out for the audience and no one else.
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Well, David was like that... talking to himself... etc etc etc
 
Didn't like the film. There's too many small problems to list so my main issues were bad editing, stupid characters, and action scenes that came off as goofy. Don't touch that vagina snake, squid baby, run from the giant donut.
 
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