PROMETHEUS UNMARKED SPOILER THREAD!
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Same, opening day for me.
Whoever brought up the engineer being able to run outside without oxygen before.. I forgot that the engineer had that suit on and it appears to be fused into him at some way. Almost looks like gills in his neck. Wondering if they'd supposedly developed some way of filtering the air.
TheJollyCorner
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Ridley... you better give me Stage 4 of the xenomorph in the sequel!!!!
This thing looks horrifying.
This thing looks horrifying.
I want this as well. I'll let you know if its in the art book as soon as my copy arrives.
trudderham
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I bet Shaw returns home in the sequel then has a baby, who she calls Ripley. That would totally tie the films together.
I'm thinking David's synthetic nature was key actually.
Zoe
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Not CG.
Oh, apparently that's the AvP dude.
haha please don't give them any ideas.
Not CG.
Do women react to Engineers the same way men react to anorexic women?
In India at the beginning with the flashback. It's not said that it's India, but they fairly obviously look like Hindus, and the girl and her father appear to be Christian missionaries. Even if it's not explicit the sense that it gives is that they are Christian missionaries there to help them out of poverty and teach them about Christ (the fact that the father is cooking in a dinged tin pot emphasizes this).
Not CG.
Totally CGi. The fight scene with the squid was CGi too. Even if some of the scenes are prosethics the Uncanny Valley still applies because it's something that's not real pretending to be real. Your brain still processes it the same. So my comment is valid, even if its made by a computer or not. To my brain it looked fake.
Pachterballs
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^ terrible
... I thought the SJ was cgi but I never thought uncanny valley - the CGI was perfect in this. But wow, live action? Nice. He was a great looking creation. Surely the musclature was a suit of somesort? It was kind of more perfect than real.
... I thought the SJ was cgi but I never thought uncanny valley - the CGI was perfect in this. But wow, live action? Nice. He was a great looking creation. Surely the musclature was a suit of somesort? It was kind of more perfect than real.
Perfect tease for the end of Prometheus 2. The birth of Jonesy... THE KITTEN:
STRANDS OF ALIEN DNA.
A lot of people are familiar with the Uncanny Vally, but I think you're misunderstanding what "CGi" is in this case.
I'll agree with you that in a few scenes the engineer looked.. off.. but he was still a guy in a suit, wearing a prosthetic headpiece... there was no "CGi" there (with the exception of the opening scene where he disentegrates).
If anything, the rubber stood out because it was in fact, rubber, and his albino/translucency didn't help mask that it was a mask
Pachterballs
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In India at the beginning with the flashback. It's not said that it's India, but they fairly obviously look like Hindus, and the girl and her father appear to be Christian missionaries. Even if it's not explicit the sense that it gives is that they are Christian missionaries there to help them out of poverty and teach them about Christ (the fact that the father is cooking in a dinged tin pot emphasizes this).
Totally CGi. The fight scene with the squid was CGi too. Even if some of the scenes are prosethics the Uncanny Valley still applies because it's something that's not real pretending to be real. Your brain still processes it the same. So my comment is valid, even if its made by a computer or not. To my brain it looked fake.
you need to stop because you're coming across as completely stupid. Its not uncanny valley. uncanny valley is what happens when you watch animatrix/matixR and those super fake robotic fake humans. The Particle FX breakdown of his skin/form is probably worked over the film plate.
uncanny valley applies to humans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley
now shut up already
we.are.the.armada
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How does David know what 3 months looks like in the context of a squid baby?
If Shaw's body is nurturing this incubation, why isn't she mutating into a squidman like Holloway did?
When the placenta (?) bursts and cthulhu splashes her with his juice why doesn't she get infected by contact with it's blood/mucus?
How can Shaw run, jump, climb, and fight with a cut uterus and abdomen without compromising the magic surgery done to her?
Thanks!
I wish that I was chiseled like that guy. Damn, I need to work on that
If Shaw's body is nurturing this incubation, why isn't she mutating into a squidman like Holloway did?
When the placenta (?) bursts and cthulhu splashes her with his juice why doesn't she get infected by contact with it's blood/mucus?
How can Shaw run, jump, climb, and fight with a cut uterus and abdomen without compromising the magic surgery done to her?
Thanks!
I wish that I was chiseled like that guy. Damn, I need to work on that
A lot of people are familiar with the Uncanny Vally, but I think you're misunderstanding what "CGi" is in this case.
I'll agree with you that in a few scenes the engineer looked.. off.. but he was still a guy in a suit, wearing a prosthetic headpiece... there was no "CGi" there (with the exception of the opening scene where he disentegrates).
If anything, the rubber stood out because it was in fact, rubber, and his albino/translucency didn't help mask that it was a mask
The Uncanny Valley doesn't just apply to GGi though - it applies to anything that is artificial pretending to be natural. Specifically, I was talking about the opening disintegration and the fight scene. Also, there's no objective "good". It's great that people thought it looked awesome, but to me it all looked super fakey. And anyway.... that wasn't even my major complaint! I said overall it did look good as a film!
His traps are impressive.
we.are.the.armada
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He's got a goat leg too.
Pretty sure that's Alien. Point still stands. It grew to at least human size before eating any food. We've been over this in previous pages.
He probably said some Lawrence of Arabia quote.
No need to be rude, okay?
I was just messing with you. I know what point you're making and I agree with it.
Just saying Alien Resurrection Xenos looked bad
Ultimately it doesn't matter. But I'm surprised that it's not related enough to a human language that someone has been able to figure it out yet.
Anton Sugar
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Pachterballs
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is his torso the real deal?
this movie is continually surprising me now.
The not tom hardy
The not CGI SJ
I need to watch this again
I think I am getting too hung up on your use of the term uncanny valley. If you are trying to say that some of the CG moments in those two scenes bothered you, I will just note your opinion and move on. I personally thought the blend of CG in those two scenes looked great but you are entitled to your opinion.
we.are.the.armada
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David could have told the Engineer that he was a synthetic created by humans who were seeking answers from their own creators. This would plausibly put the Engineer is a state of confusion for a moment, and would explain why he touched David - to verify that what he said was indeed true, before realizing how far the human race had advanced while he was asleep, and losing his shit complete.
No reason to be a douche bag.
The Uncanny Valley applies to things that are not human pretending to be human. But there is no reason it has to apply to only this anyway. I'm not even talking about the way it looks. I'm talking about how it moved - specifically in the fight scene and opening sequence. When it was fighting the squid and falling down the waterfall it looked like a CGi model.
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That's all I'm saying!
I wonder, he seemed to scan the room, didn't really react till David spoke.
Then he touched David. Realized he was an android and went berserk?
He didn't even seem to be chasing after Shaw until They crashed into his ship...
I wonder if David told him where she went... more "experiments" to see what happens? Then gave her the heads up he was on the way to make it a fair fight?
He seemed very interested in her survival ability/will. Much like Ash admired the creature in Alien. I think he was testing her, I also wonder if he talked anymore to the engineer after the crash or just shut up
I wonder, he seemed to scan the room, didn't really react till David spoke.
Then he touched David. Realized he was an android and went berserk?
He didn't even seem to be chasing after Shaw until They crashed into his ship...
I wonder if David told him where she went... more "experiments" to see what happens? Then gave her the heads up he was on the way to make it a fair fight?
He seemed very interested in her survival ability/will. Much like Ash admired the creature in Alien. I think he was testing her, I also wonder if he talked anymore to the engineer after the crash or just shut up
I'm putting my money on that he just stayed put, the SJ was clearly not in the mood to be bothered by talking heads.
Here's a picture of the guy who played the sacrifice engineer:
is his torso the real deal?
this movie is continually surprising me now.
The not tom hardy
The not CGI SJ
I need to watch this again
His muscles are clearly augmented in some way with prosthetics. Probably a makeup process similar to Perelman in Hellboy.
God, the finished product is just so cool.
Totally agree. Also, I think watching it in 3D gives it a computer enhanced gloss as well.
Here's a picture of the guy who played the sacrifice engineer:
His muscles are clearly augmented in some way with prosthetics. Probably a makeup process similar to Perelman in Hellboy.
God, the finished product is just so cool.
It makes sense to get a really skinny guy if he's going to wear a muscle suit anyway, easier for them to make it exactly how they want it.. A jacked guy's muscles wouldn't even be visible, so it would be a waste.
I'm not a big fan of the engineers design. Although there is something to be said for its simplicity, its also seems generic: a stock, pale skin humanoid alien. I think it just doesn't satisfy my expectations for what engineers look like based on the original space jockey from Alien.
I do have to say, the couple of times they had a closeup on the engineer's hands, his skin looked kind of like they just spray painted white over his hands and you could sort of see the original skin tone because it was a thin layer of coating. Guess they were going for a weird look, but it didn't look how skin should look to me.
And I really like that the Engineer ship interior was very Giger-ish.
And I really like that the Engineer ship interior was very Giger-ish.
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