That one pup was detecting faint life signs of the Engineer sleeping behind that wall in the bridge. It only detects the life signal from time to time because when you're in cryogenic sleep your vital signs should be slowed very significantly.
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That one pup was detecting faint life signs of the Engineer sleeping behind that wall in the bridge. It only detects the life signal from time to time because when you're in cryogenic sleep your vital signs should be slowed very significantly.
Neuromancer
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His motivation for putting the black goo in the drink is inscrutable.
The Albatross
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That's classic Lawrence of Arabia. WHich, if you haven't seen, a lot of David's lines are from Lawrence of Arabia. Which was cool for somebody who really loves that movie.
The Albatross
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WAIT I THOUGHT THE BEEPING WAS ACTUALLY A GLITCH
ThatObviousUser
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Oh. I got the impression something was moving around and dropping off the radar in the hallways or whatever while they were scanning. Completely non-obvious that they were detecting the sleeping dude.
You know another scene that really bothered me? When David is taking the vase apart and then eventually finds the black goo sample thing inside the vase within the vase, and then he holds the little black thing up on his finger directly at the camera and goes "Big things... have small beginnings."
It's really a bit much. I even giggled at it in the cinema. There is really zero reason for him to do that, and I really hate these tacky "nudge nudge wink wink" moments where the characters basically play out for the audience and no one else.
It's really a bit much. I even giggled at it in the cinema. There is really zero reason for him to do that, and I really hate these tacky "nudge nudge wink wink" moments where the characters basically play out for the audience and no one else.
He was working for Weyland who wanted to find some elixir of life after his own life extension was wearing off. It's fairly reasonable to assume that David was experimenting on how to do that after Weyland told him to try harder.
Aquavelvaman
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The purpose of that scene was so that there could be a tag-line for the trailer.
That's actually exactly why it bothered me lol. When I saw the trailer I was thinking "It'll be interesting to see how this scene fits into the actual movie. Who is he talking to? Are they having a lab session where he is explaining his findings?", but then I watch the movie itself, and bam it's literally just another audience pandering scene exactly as it is in the trailer. LOL.
The Albatross
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YEah and... what. How is that a small beginning, you stupid robot?
Although the glass thing holding the black goo reminded me of those purple juice drinks I'd drink as a kid where you twisted off the plastic cap that was OMG KIND OF SHAPED LIKE THE ALIEN SPACE SHIP
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Unlikely if we consider the concept designs, which put the ship in a docking bay not directed connected so closely to the temple.
Whatever it was, it was pointless. "I wonder what lifeform that is??" and then we never find out, making the scene pointless. That and we had already seen worms I think.
You know, I still dont get 1 thing... Were the vases melting..? Was the black goo dripping from the ceiling? The thing in the beginning melted, like when you spraypaint styrofoam, right..?
PROMETHEUS: "Whatever it was, it was pointless."
Perfect tag line.
PROMETHEUS: "Whatever it was, it was pointless."
Perfect tag line.
Because he can? Tom Hardy's clone was being a douche to him anyway.
As a side note, Fassbender said in interviews that he thinks David has an obsession on Shaw.
That is neat.
I've been trying to watch Lawrence of Arabia since a few years ago but can't get past the first few minutes without falling asleep. I know, travesty! I should try again since I did like Blade Runner after falling asleep trying to watch it the first 2 times.
The pup which was picking up the life sign is the one stuck at the door which David opens when he goes investigate it. That is connected directly to the cargo hold and the bridge. It wasn't anywhere near the temple.
Oh, it wasn't just a set up to shill their viral videos?
If you say you did the same with 2001, we're fighting.
The Albatross
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Nah it's fine. Lawrence of Arabia is mostly pretty boring. It's a great movie, really great, but it's hard to get through. I think it took me a week, honestly, to watch it. I had downloaded it before and would watch up to AQABA ... and would then just like stop watching and forget about it. But finally last year, I was like, okay, this is the week I finally watch it.
It was worth it. But it's really long and not really a typical movie story.
Same with Dr. Zhivago, I can never get through that.
Well I am sorry you can only enjoy movies where people act like perfect robots. I enjoy seeing people make mistakes and learn (or die!) from them. You know, like real life.
Where did I say that I only enjoy movies where people act like perfect robots? Oh wait, I didn't.
Like I already said, 1 mistake is fine. The entire movie was full of them, which take you out of taking any of the characters seriously, as they don't act like any rational person, like real life. I generally don't put my stupid goggles on for Ridley Scott films.
So again, comparing Prometheus, which is full of horrible characters that don't act a shade near reality, isn't comparable to any of the other films.
And oddly enough, the best character in the film was David.
The point is the chracters were making mistakes completely out of their supposed nature as people with their kind of background.
You horrible person!
David doesn't like your tone. Expect some Xenomorphing jizz in your drink next time.
They do it TWICE!!So, I just got back from Prometheus with my daughter (nine year old, I talked my seven year old out of seeing it). Right before the movie starts, I mention that there are some dumb characters in it. And Natalie mentions her pet peeve: when something is rolling toward someone and they turn and run in a straight line. We've seen a couple movies recently where that happened. It never ends well. Run sideways! she says.
So, yeah. She got a good laugh out of a certain character death. Been posted, but can't be posted enough:
When the donut started falling side ways she still ran in the direction it was falling.
Dis movie is so dumb yet peps be missin des basic facts yo!
The Albatross
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It's not really mistakes.
It's not mistakes at all.
A mistake is like in Alien 1 when they assume that the guy who's been infected by the facehugger is all good, and so they're like "Oh shit, man we thought you was dead but everything is okay now so c;mon out of containment." AND THEN AN ALIEN BURSTS THROUGH HIS CHEST AND KILLS EVERYBODY ON BOARD MINUS ZUUL AND THE FUCKING CAT.
That's a mistake.
In Prometheus, here's how it happens:
A supposedly supernova traversing intergalactic biologist who is, apparently, afraid of a 10,000 year old mummified alien (Despite this discovery), taunts an obviously unfriendly and harmful alien snake creature by prodding it until it attacks him, killing him and causing his friend to turn into a zombie who kills an untold number of people on board the ship.
There are no mistakes in prometheus. Just stupid decisions by stupid characters over and over again. Besides David who is, at least, kind of entertaining. And Lizbeth the Astronaut Salander who does a pretty good job, IMO.
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JEsus even the super intelligent space creatures are idiots. Why does Super-Powder space alien chase after Lizbeth in the final(ish) scenes? Why doesn't he assume she's dead? What point does it serve to kill her when you're originally planning to kill THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE. IF he knows she's alive by some sort of space cognition, SURELY he knows that the giant space octopus is also alive? Surely? He's a brilliant space alien.
Nah, I'll take this ...
Opening scene in Prometheus 2 : Shaw finishes rebuilding David as the camera pans back, they are mid conversation talking about her family and faith. David apologizes about sneaking into her dreams during Cryo. Shaw comments, "Its ok David, I've come full circle and my faith has taught me to forgive, even for synthetics like yourself. I reserve my real pain for the Engineers and their home world." David, "You're right Elizabeth, you are the first human who has truly taught me what science cannot." Shaw responds, "All set, set course to the engineer world, we have a score to settl.....'
... Shaw is interrupted by emergency cockpit beeping onboard the stolen craft. Shaw, "Whats going on? What is that beeping?!!?" David, "They won."
Cut to space epic panorama view of a fleet of engineer craft hailing a rain of gunfire onto the ship Shaw and David captain. Following scene is the head general engineer giving the orders to jump space to their target system, in his hand is an orb shaped planet.. Earth.
All engineer derelict craft enter the milky way just beyond the planet Mars. As they all exit hyperspace there is a shadow on the planets horizon... its not a single object casting the shadow, its thousands ... its ..
Camera pans out unveil the entire unified human space naval fleet.. vessels touting USCM American flags, Brittish, and several others ... hundreds of Sulaco-like battlecrusers directing laser cannons, fighter craft and shots of thousands of marine units loading into UD4L Cheyenne dropshops...
Cut to scene of joint commander in USCM uniform ordering, "Attack!"
*screen goes black*
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The robot? LoL
The characters act like characters in Ridley Scott's alien universe...
I have already talked about my feelings on the motivations of the characters, all I have seen from you is LOLZ so stupid. Care to explain? Or is that your final analysis?
Not entirely true. There is ONE scene in the movie where a mistake causes a potential life risk. When they first get back to the ship during the sand storm, Shaw drops the head, and has to go back for it. They could probably have been more careful in securing it, and her dashing back out to grab it was a pretty rash action. But the entire context of the scene is understandable given the circumstances, and it made the stakes interesting because it shows that even when there are no aliens hunting them down, the environment can be dangerous if you make mistakes and don't respect the significance of the danger enough. I felt that was a good scene.
The Albatross
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Yeah, I agree there, but the scene was inconsequential and honestly I had no idea what was happening. It didn't change anything about the story. But it was okay. Actually, something I credit the movie, is that it didn't resort to stupid camera cuts for action like almost every other mystery-sci-fi-ish movie these days.
Also, if that dude had just used a space condom or if Lizbeth were on the pill, then that creature wouldn't have been born either.
So much for the Christian overtones.
BuddyJoeHooker
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Did anybody else laugh when they were being repelled back into the ship and they were stiff boards while flying in the air?
And the way the music swelled as she spat out this shock line that was....telegraphed repeatedly throughout the film. They could keep a line of her casually calling Weyland "father" in the scene and not had it be so overly dramatic, but it wasn't needed at all.
What bugged me was...why didn't they detect the worms? Or the goo? Or the really big worms?
The Albatross
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This is consistent in ridley scott scenes where a robot humanoid rescues two humans carrying an ancient alien head in a duffle bag.
So it's really brilliant.
The script no doubt has plenty of problems, and I think the editing in the second half even more so.
But I could fill a book with the number of times I've seen people say something to the effect of "god this movie was so obvious and on-the-nose" followed directly by conveying ignorance at some critical aspect of the film.
Maybe they were shitty probes which could only pick up larger life forms. I dunno. Lots of the tech in the movie only seems to work the way the story wants them to work and nothing more.
I really don't like this complaint. When you're that small and something that big is falling on you, you don't see it like that. You don't get to see a top down view like in the comic and go "oh, it's just a donut rolling on its side, all you have to do is sidestep it lol," you're just trying to get away from a big ass thing that's falling on you. Any way you can. And in real life, people aren't that coordinated and smart in life or death situations. People die all the time from terrible accidents, often due to their own clumsiness.
With that said, there are a lot of valid criticisms to be made about the film (I just got back from seeing it by the way). I can life with the "plot holes," but there are a lot of other problems, like corny dialogue, poor pacing, and poor character development. Pretty much everything's been covered in this thread already... The thing that bothered me the most was how easily the captain sacrificed his life and the life of his crew and the ship for some unknown cause that he couldn't be sure of, especially since he wasn't established to be the type of guy to do that... or to care about stuff for that matter! The score seemed out of place too.
Erm, why would they use contraceptive? She's infertile. A condom might have prevented the infection, or the powered up xeno-sperm might have burst through it anyway, we wouldn't know. Her being on the pill would have changed nothing though.
I can't believe I'm even partaking in -this- speculation. Lol.
SCULLIBUNDO
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So wait. What would happen if like, Superman fucked an already pregnant Shaw and the tip of his black ooze-contaminated pein leaked the goop into the eye of the fetus?
I'm banned, aren't I?
I'm banned, aren't I?
Count Dookkake
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Supes survived a chestburster, so I think he would be okay.
Uh that scene is pretty important. It begins David's respect for Shaw. It is the foundation of their troubled relationship. She is also the only one to thank him and treat him as an individual, not a "thing" and why would they use condoms? She is infertile?
That's actually exactly why it bothered me lol. When I saw the trailer I was thinking "It'll be interesting to see how this scene fits into the actual movie. Who is he talking to? Are they having a lab session where he is explaining his findings?", but then I watch the movie itself, and bam it's literally just another audience pandering scene exactly as it is in the trailer. LOL.
Didn't really mind that - it's a quote from Lawrence of Arabia.
The incredibly stupid science team and Vickers's death were worse for me.
One other semi-related thing. During the late night scene with Vickers and the captain, the map of the dome is still building out. One of the places one of the probes went is up this giant spiral leading toward the top of the dome. I really wanted to see what was in the rest of the facility. When I saw that being mapped out, I assumed it would be an important find up there. But the film was too busy with mutant geologists to do more exploring.
It really does seem like there is a race to be the next plinkett and tear a movie apart rather than understand and discuss things that didn't make sense to you at first glance.
Oh well I enjoyed the film and some of the discussion here. There is no perfect movie and some things will never make everyone happy.
Can't wait for the real plinkett review btw, should be good lol
This. I thought the exact same thing.
It's not really mistakes.
It's not mistakes at all.
A mistake is like in Alien 1 when they assume that the guy who's been infected by the facehugger is all good, and so they're like "Oh shit, man we thought you was dead but everything is okay now so c;mon out of containment." AND THEN AN ALIEN BURSTS THROUGH HIS CHEST AND KILLS EVERYBODY ON BOARD MINUS ZUUL AND THE FUCKING CAT.
That's a mistake.
In Prometheus, here's how it happens:
A supposedly supernova traversing intergalactic biologist who is, apparently, afraid of a 10,000 year old mummified alien (Despite this discovery), taunts an obviously unfriendly and harmful alien snake creature by prodding it until it attacks him, killing him and causing his friend to turn into a zombie who kills an untold number of people on board the ship.
There are no mistakes in prometheus. Just stupid decisions by stupid characters over and over again. Besides David who is, at least, kind of entertaining. And Lizbeth the Astronaut Salander who does a pretty good job, IMO.
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JEsus even the super intelligent space creatures are idiots. Why does Super-Powder space alien chase after Lizbeth in the final(ish) scenes? Why doesn't he assume she's dead? What point does it serve to kill her when you're originally planning to kill THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE. IF he knows she's alive by some sort of space cognition, SURELY he knows that the giant space octopus is also alive? Surely? He's a brilliant space alien.
They could've at least establish the biologist as some fanatical animal lover who loves all creatures and his own personal mission was to discover and study new species... That would've made his behavior at least a little bit understandable. But no, he didn't seem to want to be there any more than Fiefild, that whole messing with the snake and "it's so beautiful" shit came from out of nowhere!
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I thought David spiked the drink because Keanu Reeves' clone was being an asshole to him all movie long
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Am I the only one that thought Tom Hardy was Holloway for like half the movie?
CoffeeJanitor
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As someone who loves animals and reacts like that in real life....Didn't seem that out of the ordinary to me. Completely stupid? Yes. But not that crazy.
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