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[JumpingTheGun]

Here's one serious question; Why did the mohawked dude come back with super human strength? He got acid on his face. I assume it just melted him to death. Then he comes back as some sort of super mutant freak? Seems like the whole thing was put in there just to kill off a few of the crew members.

I saw it as an example of how the black goo affects and adapts to everyone differently depending on their genetic/mental/emotional makeup. Fifield(?) was an aggressive character with a short fuse and the audience is shown that before his face gets melted. It made sense that the goo affected him in a way that would make him super pissed and super strong.

 

[Speedymanic]

I have to agree with serte and others who have said the same in the past - they shouldn't have bothered with the opening scene where the engineer sacrifices himself to 'seed' the planet with life.

The reveal later that our DNA is the same would have had a much bigger impact.

 

[Gilby]

Finding out this was written by the producer of Lost makes so much sense. It's the exact same type of "mysterious" writing:characters acting in an incredibly stupid/inconsistent/forced manner in order to move a plot forward that's full of awkward holes and contrivances. It pretends to be something that needs decryption, but it's really just poorly thought-out. That's my opinion anyway, obviously other people are going to feel different, just like Lost.

 

[Speedymanic]

Wait, there are people who think Lost was well written?

Naw, I refuse to believe.

 

[Interficium]

ITT people hastily tear apart a Ridley Scott sci-fi movie immediately upon release. Sound familiar?

There's no director's cut of this coming.

 

[Interficium]

Could that be her in the Jockey suit in Alien?

Now this is a cool idea.

 

[BertramCooper]

What a colossal fucking disappointment.

Just a total mess. Five movies crammed into one. No consistency. No natural progression. Just a convoluted mess of a film.

Goddammit, Ridley. I was so psyched for this.

 

[Femmeworth]

OH SH

Naaah, why would you think that?

'Kay...

 

[Plasmid]

Okay so is there anything to the website that's at the end of the credits?

 

[DarkKyo]

What a colossal fucking disappointment.

Just a total mess. Five movies crammed into one. No consistency. No natural progression. Just a convoluted mess of a film.

Goddammit, Ridley. I was so psyched for this.

Noooo it was good! Your standards/expectations were way way too high.

 

[Keylime]

Not Prometheus related... But digging around on Wikipedia got me this:

Scott had wanted the Alien to bite off Ripley's head and then make the final log entry in her voice, but the producers vetoed this idea as they believed that the Alien had to die at the end of the film.

What the fuck?! :lol

 

[Dysun]

It was good not great

I enjoyed the final scene but felt like something was missing all throughout

 

[BertramCooper]

Noooo it was good! Your standards/expectations were way way too high.

No, it was crappy. Really crappy.

The mythology is somewhat interesting. The film itself was gorgeous. Everything else was shitty.

 

[Solo]

Yet another Ridley Scott movie desperately in need of a director's cut to save it :/

For all the stuff he managed to really nail, the end product is pretty disappointing due to the screenplay not being up to snuff. Characterization was almost non-existant and even worse, character motivations were muddy at best. It feels like a good 40 minutes was slashed from the film, all of it intergral character development. The worst victim of this was David. I could not for the fucking life of me tell you what his motivations were in this movie. At one moment, he's trying to sabotage everything and kill a character, the next moment he is helping that same character to escape. Even worse? Said character doesn't react in any kind of normal human way. Just accepts his help without ever mentioning the small elephant in the room of his part in her boyfriend's death and her almost-death. Just brutal. Not to mention that a lot of the explanations of stuff and connections within the Alien universe came off mostly like a fan-fic. Ugh.

It's too bad that the movie was doomed from the very start with a script as shoddy as this, because its great in every single other facet. It's wonderfully acted, the visuals are mindblowing, the score is surprisingly great, it moves at a nice brisk pace, and has several incredibly cool sequences.

I'd love to believe that there is a great movie in there waiting to get out with a director's cut. Otherwise, prettiest disappointment in some time.

 

[BertramCooper]

What bothered me most about this film was that it starts and stops constantly. It ramps up the tension, and then slows down to a crawl. And then it picks up again, and then hits a fucking wall.

There's none of the beautiful elegance of Alien, which takes its time to unravel but eventually builds to an insane level of tension that it rides to the finish. Like a snowball rolling down a hill. Once it gets going it never lets up.

 

[Solo]

If there is to be a Prometheus 2, there needs to be new writers.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

Yet another Ridley Scott movie desperately in need of a director's cut to save it :/

For all the stuff he managed to really nail, the end product is pretty disappointing due to the screenplay not being up to snuff. Characterization was almost non-existant and even worse, character motivations were muddy at best. It feels like a good 40 minutes was slashed from the film, all of it intergral character development. The worst victim of this was David. I could not for the fucking life of me tell you what his motivations were in this movie. At one moment, he's trying to sabotage everything and kill a character, the next moment he is helping that same character to escape. Even worse? Said character doesn't react in any kind of normal human way. Just accepts his help without ever mentioning the small elephant in the room of his part in her boyfriend's death and her almost-death. Just brutal. Not to mention that a lot of the explanations of stuff and connections within the Alien universe came off mostly like a fan-fic. Ugh.

It's too bad that the movie was doomed from the very start with a script as shoddy as this, because its great in every single other facet. It's wonderfully acted, the visuals are mindblowing, the score is surprisingly great, it moves at a nice brisk pace, and has several incredibly cool sequences.

I'd love to believe that there is a great movie in there waiting to get out with a director's cut. Otherwise, prettiest disappointment in some time.

This is the absolute truth. smh.

 

[Guy Legend]

They turned the space jockey face into a helmet. Guess the Predator mistakengly had an engineer helmet alongside a bunch of skulls in its trophy room....

....yea I know they're not supposed to be related.

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

This is the absolute truth. smh.

Yep, it's all that needs to be said.

 

[Solo]

I just cannot believe that after all the years and finally going through with it, Ridley shot this sad excuse for a script. The movie showed he still has it from a technical perspective, but his judgement of scripts is very suspect.

 

[Wilbur]

I just cannot believe that after all the years and finally going through with it, Ridley shot this sad excuse for a script. The movie showed he still has it from a technical perspective, but his judgement of scripts is very suspect.

I think he's just got lazy and allowed everyone else to do their thing while he focuses on the visuals.

I liked it more than you I think; I know there's so many flaws with the script but as well as agreeing with you on everything else I was still satisfied. Needs a directors cut though for sure.

 

[Speedymanic]

Still think it was a good movie, just not great and certainly not as good as it should have been.

I do hope there's a sequel and as Solo mentioned, new writers are an absolute must.

 

[BertramCooper]

Also, how incredibly stupid was the inclusion of Peter Weyland?

 

[brandonh83]

I just cannot believe that after all the years and finally going through with it, Ridley shot this sad excuse for a script. The movie showed he still has it from a technical perspective, but his judgement of scripts is very suspect.

I would like to have been able to read Spaihts' draft before Lindelof got hold of it. Not that I know who is responsible for some of the really bizarre logic, nor do we know if there were scenes cut out that would make things in the film make much more sense, but I would still like to read his "Alien prequel" draft.

I mean, it was still an Alien prequel. I was thinking about how they kept denying that it was an Alien prequel and laughing my ass off, especially with the giant facehugger impregnating a Space Jockey that gave birth to a Xenomorph prototype.

Also, how incredibly stupid was the inclusion of Peter Weyland?

This also bugged me. Pearce did well, but talk about shoehorning in something super pointless. Like Theron he added nothing to the story.

 

[Wilbur]

Still think it was a good movie, just not great and certainly not as good as it should have been.

I do hope there's a sequel and as Solo mentioned, new writers are an absolute must.

I think the reason it's getting a sequel is because Lindelof proposed an idea for it.

I loved the film, but it's extremely flawed brilliance.

 

[Solo]

Well, there were a few really great scenes. My favorite scene in the movie I think was a toss-up between the self-abortion and David in the control room watching the space jockey holograms.

But its a few great scenes held together with contrivance, plot holes, and silly explanations.

 

[Wilbur]

Well, there were a few really great scenes. My favorite scene in the movie I think was a toss-up between the self-abortion and David in the control room watching the space jockey holograms.

But its a few great scenes held together with contrivance, plot holes, and silly explanations.

Probably my two favourite scenes as well, along with David at the start and the initial scene in the ampule chamber.

I said last week that there's a thousand great scenes in there voided and made stupid because of little things. Cuts here, tiny additions there and it's much better.

 

[Keylime]

I'm going to approach every Lindelof written thing with caution from now on. I loved Lost, but even there I have to ignore issues all over the place to enjoy the ride.

Seems like he enjoys being heady more than he enjoys writing great scripts.

 

[brandonh83]

But its a few great scenes held together with contrivance, plot holes, and silly explanations.

Again I liked it a lot but the flaws must be dealt with. I really enjoyed it and that's enough for me to give it a pass but that doesn't mean that I was obliged to think it was perfect. Far from it. It's just frustrating because with some really fucking obvious fixes that should have absolutely not went over someone's head like Ridley Scott it could have definitely played ball with Alien, I feel. I'm no plot magician, but the mistakes in this movie shouldn't be mistakes that we have to bitch about.

 

[Kyaw]

Is everyone concluding that there will be a director's cut?

What is Ridley's word? It definitely felt like there are some cut stuff.

 

[Solo]

I'm not sure about the space jockeys and their plan, either. Were they on that planet to imprison the aliens, and was the last remaining one trying to kill Shaw to prevent her from becoming a host? Or were they planning to let lose the aliens on earth to wipe humanity out? Or something else?

Just another plot point I wasn't sure what the implication was.

 

[Wilbur]

I'm not sure about the space jockeys and their plan, either. Were they on that planet to imprison the aliens, and was the last remaining one trying to kill Shaw to prevent her from becoming a host? Or were they planning to let lose the aliens on earth to wipe humanity out? Or something else?

Just another plot point I wasn't sure what the implication was.

I think there's a good explanation except for a few caveats. I would have said humans have got too big for their boots, think they can create their own life and meet their makers so the Engineers created bioweapons to destroy them and take control, but it went tits up.

The problems I have with that are a) it was planned 2000 years ago, what the fuck did humans do then? and b) why would you invite them there? To show off to and say 'we created you and this is the start of your destruction?'

 

[BertramCooper]

I'm not sure about the space jockeys and their plan, either. Were they on that planet to imprison the aliens, and was the last remaining one trying to kill Shaw to prevent her from becoming a host? Or were they planning to let lose the aliens on earth to wipe humanity out? Or something else?

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42

 

[Solo]

:lol

 

[33-Hit-Combo]

Is everyone concluding that there will be a director's cut?

What is Ridley's word? It definitely felt like there are some cut stuff.

He said no in an interview posted a few days ago... Wtf Ridley!

 

[Kyaw]

I'm not sure about the space jockeys and their plan, either. Were they on that planet to imprison the aliens, and was the last remaining one trying to kill Shaw to prevent her from becoming a host? Or were they planning to let lose the aliens on earth to wipe humanity out? Or something else?

Just another plot point I wasn't sure what the implication was.

Don't quite know why the jockey just decided to smash the humans up either.

Also the crew are extremely stupid bunch of scientists... I've only seen one film in which the crew was really logical and that is Sunshine which ended in a crazy note.

 

[Solo]

It's funny you mention Sunshine, because the SJ going postal totally made me think of Pinbacker.

 

[brandonh83]

He said no in an interview posted a few days ago... Wtf Ridley!

He said no, but this is Fox... knowing Rothman he made them cut all the common sense out of the movie to save for the director's cut.

 

[Kyaw]

The Space Jockey's design was really well done. Those eyes were unnerving as fuck.

Are there more films like Sunshine with an intelligent crew that doesn't end in a crazy note?

EDIT:

Also how did Shaw get more oxygen in her suit?
I guess Vicker's shuttle was able to replenish the oxygen supply?

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

It was chilling when David called Shaw to let her know that Nemesis was out to kill S.T.A...her. Then you hear the door break. That scene could have been terrifying, but no, they had to end it quickly. :/

 

[Solo]

I liked the sheer size of the SJs. Very imposing.

 

[BertramCooper]

Alien's crew was a thousand times better.

You know why? Because they were just a bunch of lugs who wanted to get paid and get home to their families. Which makes them infinitely more relatable than this hollow bunch of fucks and their incomprehensible motivations.

 

[JumpingTheGun]

The Jockeys reminded me of something Adam Jones would design/be in a Tool video to a fucking T

The entire introductory sequence was beautiful.

 

[Solo]

Alien and Aliens' crews both trump Prometheus' with ease.

 

[Kyaw]

David was amazing. The connection to Peter O'Toole stuff was great.

If only he can be in the sequel. Maybe Shaw will find a way to keep his head running...

 

[vas_a_morir]

What kind of accent was Idris Elba trying to do, anyway?

 

[Mr. Sam]

What kind of accent was Idris Elba trying to do, anyway?

Space Southern. Better than Rapace's Swenglish.

 

[Expendable.]

Anyone bring up the idea that David is in love with Shaw? Only looks at her dreams, only goes out to save her and even impregnates her the only way he can. He actually ends in a happy place, with her.

 

[Kyaw]

What kind of accent was Idris Elba trying to do, anyway?

Doesn't matter; had sex.

 

[BertramCooper]

So...Vickers.

Man or woman?