Maybe I'm just a noob but I always felt like PS2 emulation was a hassle. I'll always keep my original PS2 to play those great imports but it'd still be cool just just play God Hand on your PS4 using the disc.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but I always felt like PS2 emulation was a hassle. I'll always keep my original PS2 to play those great imports but it'd still be cool just just play God Hand on your PS4 using the disc.
NormalFish
Banned
Yeah, it's not the best. But I don't expect the ps4 to do much better. Maybe there will be specific titles that have issues on the current other emulators, that will run well on the ps4. And maybe there will be options for higher resolutions and filtering and the like. But frankly I find it very unlikely, and if I'm going to emulate on a home console I would like to use such luxuries.
PhineBuyM3
Member
Has anyone played Nightshade? I got it this past weekend and only 3 levels in, but I don't know if I want to finish it because the controls feel funny as hell.
I have...it's ok.
sixteen-bit
Member
Since you mentioned Gradius V and R-Type Final I assume you mean games that were originally developed for PS2, right? The only one I can think of that fits that criteria off the top of my head is Thunderforce VI.
If arcade ports count; Ibara, Shikigami no Shiro series, Homura, Psyvariar, etc.
Either way.
NormalFish
Banned
harmful park for the west when 
PSX but still. I actually don't own a single PS2 shmup
IrishNinja
Member
anyone know anyone that mods PS2's? buddy's been asking for a bit, haven't found much
harmful park for the west when
Isn't it on the PSN now?
sixteen-bit
Member
yeah so is Zanac x Zanac which is another a pricy disc release
Palom
Member
I just discovered that my capture card isn't very good with deinterlacing and converts 480i60 to 30 fps. Since the majority of PS2 games are 480i, this kind of sucks. I have my PS2 modded so I can force 480p with GSM, but it doesn't always work correctly. Is there some kind of device I can get that deinterlaces properly and can convert 480i60 to 480p60? I am assuming the Framemeister XRGB-Mini does this, but I can't afford $300+ for it. Is there anything affordable that can do this, that preferably uses HDMI? (I'm actually not even sure the Framemeister can do this, as I can't verify if it accepts an interlaced signal through HDMI.)
I have my PS2 connected to an AV receiver with component, which acts as a pass-through to send the 480i signal through HDMI to my TV/capture device. I would like to intercept the signal from between the AV receiver and TV/capture, so I can use it with other systems without having to change any connections.
I have my PS2 connected to an AV receiver with component, which acts as a pass-through to send the 480i signal through HDMI to my TV/capture device. I would like to intercept the signal from between the AV receiver and TV/capture, so I can use it with other systems without having to change any connections.
Startech capture cards can do 60fps on interlaced games in AmaRecTV if you set it to 60fps in the recording tab.
NormalFish
Banned
Huh. I thought I had responded to this.
It's on JP PSN only, right? Vita 1-account limitation screws me
Palom
Member
I'm streaming with OBS. I have it set to 60 (59.94) fps, and in the driver configuration for the device, I have tried the "high motion", "low motion", and "bob" deinterlace settings, and each only does 30 fps (and even seems to mess with the resolution). It records at 60 fps, but each frame is doubled. With the same settings on a progressive signal, it's 60 fps as it should be.
Here's a 60 fps video after deinterlacing and here's a 60 fps video from progressive.
I'm using the modified Micomsoft drivers for it. I wonder if I shouldn't go back to the official Startech drivers instead.
sixteen-bit
Member
For NA: Zanac yes HP noHuh. I thought I had responded to this.
It's on JP PSN only, right? Vita 1-account limitation screws me
Augemitbutter
Member
is there a good step by step guide to install a hdd to a fat ps2 and rip your own games to it, preferably from the ps2? is that even possible?. if not, i'll take a regular guide.
Hmm, that is weird, thoughI only use AmaRecTV and sometimes Streamcatcher so I'm not sure about OBS as I don't use that.
This is also why I don't like recording PS2 games, definitely if they are in 60FPS. Though my other capture card Avermedia Gamebroadcaster can do 480i at 60fps.
NormalFish
Banned
Eh, 50/50. Not the one I wanted most but it'll do. Honestly PSN classics should have more shmups.
cj_iwakura
Member
Play-asia used to sell really easy kits for it. I know how if it's a slim.
NormalFish
Banned
So the PS2 emulator for PS4 seems oddly variable. Rogue Galaxy looks really clean, but Mark of Kri not as much.
Mark of Kri (this is actually the better of the 2 videos I saw):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoKjYdvqzew
Rogue Galaxy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW3iYu704ig
Mark of Kri (this is actually the better of the 2 videos I saw):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoKjYdvqzew
Rogue Galaxy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW3iYu704ig
sixteen-bit
Member
Rogue Galaxy looked a lot better 10 years ago tbh. In my mind anyway. I guess the game hasn't aged as nicely as I remember.
NormalFish
Banned
Honestly always thought the art was a little off. Not sure what it is.
I'm arguing with a youtuber on a Game Sack vid who thinks composite looks better than component for PS2 games due to him thinking it hides the jaggies when in reality it doesn't get rid of them and just blurs them...good lord.
Also, the only way to record 480i at 60FPS is to use a de-interlacer/upscaler/converter it seems as the output has to be progressive for capture cards to record in 480i at 60FPS.
Also, the only way to record 480i at 60FPS is to use a de-interlacer/upscaler/converter it seems as the output has to be progressive for capture cards to record in 480i at 60FPS.
NormalFish
Banned
I don't know about this. I feel like I've seen 60 fps streams of interlaced video. Couldn't give you an example though, so maybe I'm misremembering.
my avermedia game capture HD II records ps2 gameplay at 60fps in 480i, though I'm video-illeterate so I can't actually tell if it's interlaced or not????? i can upload some raw recordings somehwere if you want to verify
Hmm, streams? Interesting.
If you're not using progressive you're 100% likely using interlaced, and I would like to see some raw recordings as well.
I've since talked about it with Timu in PMs, but if anyone else is curious, here's a dropbox link to a raw upload: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bn67xa6m08oga80/151125-1056.mp4?dl=0 . you'll need to download it because streaming from dropbox is slow af.
DigitalDevil
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Just bought a PSphat Friday at a local pawn shop in amazing condition, looked like it wasn't even played. I mean it's a 30001 but the fan is still quiet so ya know it didn't get much action lol.
My five year old hasn't been able to play any of my PS2 games up to now because my BC PS3 died when he was still a baby.
He's spent the last two days playing nothing but Ape Escape 2.
I missed my ps2 so much
My five year old hasn't been able to play any of my PS2 games up to now because my BC PS3 died when he was still a baby.
He's spent the last two days playing nothing but Ape Escape 2.
I missed my ps2 so muchDigitalDevil
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Looking for suggestions on what to add to my collection:
Ape Escape 2
Ape Escape 3
Armored Core Nexus
Beyond Good & Evil
Dues Ex The Conspiracy
Dragon Quest VIIi
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
God Of War
Kingdom Hearts
Jak II
Katamari Damacy
Mercenaries
Metal Gear Solid The Essential Collection
Metal Saga
Odin Sphere
Okage Shadow King
Resident Evil 4
Rogue Galaxy
Shadow of the Collossus
Simpsons Hit & Run
Simpsons Road Rage
Space Channel 5
SSX
SSX On Tour
SSX Tricky
SMT Devil Summoner
SMT Devil Summoner 2
SMT Digital Devil Saga 1
SMT Digital Devil Saga 2
SMT Nocturne
SMT Persona 3 FES
SMT Persona 4
Star Ocean: Til The End Of Time
Technicbeat
Tenchu; Wrath of Heaven
Tetris Worlds
The Great Escape
Top Spin
Tsugunai: Atonement
Twisted Metal Black
Wild Arms 3
Ape Escape 2
Ape Escape 3
Armored Core Nexus
Beyond Good & Evil
Dues Ex The Conspiracy
Dragon Quest VIIi
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
God Of War
Kingdom Hearts
Jak II
Katamari Damacy
Mercenaries
Metal Gear Solid The Essential Collection
Metal Saga
Odin Sphere
Okage Shadow King
Resident Evil 4
Rogue Galaxy
Shadow of the Collossus
Simpsons Hit & Run
Simpsons Road Rage
Space Channel 5
SSX
SSX On Tour
SSX Tricky
SMT Devil Summoner
SMT Devil Summoner 2
SMT Digital Devil Saga 1
SMT Digital Devil Saga 2
SMT Nocturne
SMT Persona 3 FES
SMT Persona 4
Star Ocean: Til The End Of Time
Technicbeat
Tenchu; Wrath of Heaven
Tetris Worlds
The Great Escape
Top Spin
Tsugunai: Atonement
Twisted Metal Black
Wild Arms 3
Yakuza and Yakuza 2.
DigitalDevil
Member
I'll look them up, I haven't played either!
cj_iwakura
Member
Samurai Western, GrimGrimoire, Wild Arms 4(I liked it), We Love Katamari, Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land, Grandia Xtreme, Shadow Hearts 1 & 2(Covenant) to name a few.
Also, about Ps2 shmups, I think Silpheed was never ported or PSN'd.
they are both beautiful games. Yakuza 2 is imo the best game in the series. But you should start with 1.
Augemitbutter
Member
you need Valkyrie Profile 2.
What about the Xenosaga Trilogy? I'm playing trough the first one at the moment and I'm loving it... Yes I know, the second one is regarded as crap, but the third one should compensate for that!
cj_iwakura
Member
The second one is pretty bad, but
A. It's REALLY short, like <10 hours
B. The combat system is a lot of fun.
And yes, 3 is fantastic.
NormalFish
Banned
Anyone know if a PS2 arcade stick would work for PS1 games? I don't see why not but controllers can be finicky.
Additionally, anyone have a stick they recommend that's pretty cheap but compact and built pretty well?
Additionally, anyone have a stick they recommend that's pretty cheap but compact and built pretty well?
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
A ps3/360 stick with a converter would probably be the most economical way to do it--you have it for any system/mame you want then. Not sure about PS1 compatibility, but I've never heard anything weird like that, aside from on PS3.
NormalFish
Banned
I'm totally new to arcade sticks, could you point me to an adapter?
binarymelon
Member
What are some of the best games for PS2 that haven't seen remasters, remakes or re-releases on more recent PlayStation systems? I was given a PS2 at Christmas and would like to get a few games for it. I have a PS3, PS4 and Vita however and would prefer to get games that I can't already get for those systems.
IrishNinja
Member
glad ya'll like it, but man i thought xenosaga 2 & 3 were both butt
NormalFish
Banned
Well if you're including the incoming PS4 emulated titles, it might be worth holding off a bit to see what becomes of that.
Otherwise.... The .Hack, Xenosaga, and SMT games on the PS2 are all good RPGs (despite Irish's post
), and seem unlikely to recieve proper rereleases outside of emulation for the SMT games.Should look in to DTL units. Might suit your needs.
DTL?
NormalFish
Banned
dev testing units. They're region free. playing NTSC on PAL or PAL on NTSC sometimes has issues, but for JP games it's perfect. Dunno what the price is like, but they're a neat piece of hardware.
Holy crap that sounds amazing, wonder where I could find those. I can at least get some Japanese units in America so I don't need to import or anything like that.