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[Lunatic_Gamer]

"3D audio has been around for a long while," Jutras said. "You could have it running on existing consoles easily… but not a lot of game do, because it pretty much takes too much CPU time. Until now, it had to run software."

"But now it's hardware accelerated," he continued. "It means there's no reason not to use it. For us, it will most likely mean PS5 might sound better with the flick of a switch. Assuming you have the audio system to handle that. Also means we could have a CPU thread freed from heavy audio computation! Even if both consoles had exactly the same CPU, having a specific task being hardware accelerated can be a huge boost for the CPU."

PS5’s Tempest Engine Is Hardware Accelerated, Will Be A Huge Boost To CPU – Hellpoint Dev

gamingbolt.com

 

[darkinstinct]

Will most likely mean ... so they don't have devkits? For someone that talks about nothing else but PS5 capabilities that's surprising.

 

[VFXVeteran]

I don't really see CPUs being taxed this next-gen. Unless there is some complex simulation game coming out, most games will be limited by the GPU.

 

[Virex]

Can we stop giving the cunts that don't even have their game out yet attention as if they are some rockstar AAA studio that knows what the fuck they are talking about. Because if you played the demo of Hellpoint. You'll clearly see they don't.

Gamingbolt was also banned on gaf for a good reason .

 

[DeepEnigma]

Can we stop giving the cunts that don't even have their game out yet attention as if they are some rockstar AAA studio that knows what the fuck they are talking about. Because if you played the demo of Hellpoint. You'll clearly see they don't.

Gamingbolt was also banned on gaf for a good reason .

You shut your dirty non believer mouth, heretic!

Hollowed are the Hellpoint Dev.

 

[Tamy]

Same applies to XSX btw.

 

[HaveButOneLife]

3D audio is the new secret sauce confirmed!!
lolno

Can we stop giving the cunts that don't even have their game out yet attention as if they are some rockstar AAA studio that knows what the fuck they are talking about. Because if you played the demo of Hellpoint. You'll clearly see they don't.

Gamingbolt was also banned on gaf for a good reason .

Their game looks decent and nobody claimed their word was gospel, they're just giving their perspective.

Same applies to XSX btw.

Sony had 3D audio as an official feature in the specifications if I recall but I haven't seen Microsoft mention it even once. Good if true.

Source? Just educating myself.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

If Hellpoint says it, I swear by it.

Same applies to XSX btw.

Definitely. The dedicated audio chips will be a nice luxury for both consoles.

Can we stop giving the cunts that don't even have their game out yet attention as if they are some rockstar AAA studio that knows what the fuck they are talking about. Because if you played the demo of Hellpoint. You'll clearly see they don't.

Gamingbolt was also banned on gaf for a good reason .

I think they are even in on the joke. They know it has become a meme

 

[Jesb]

What do these nextgen consoles mean for you if you have an amp for audio that's about 10 years old. Will you need a new amp to take advantage of the audio used in PS5?

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

What do these nextgen consoles mean for you if you have an amp for audio that's about 10 years old. Will you need a new amp to take advantage of the audio used in PS5?

From the Cerny presentation it sounded like you'll hear the difference even on TV speakers and especially with headphones, which I'm stoked for (i usually only game with a headset)

 

[Tamy]

3D audio is the new secret sauce confirmed!!
lolno


Their game looks decent and nobody claimed their word was gospel, they're just giving their perspective.



Sony had 3D audio as an official feature in the specifications if I recall but I haven't seen Microsoft mention it even once. Good if true.

Source? Just educating myself.

Project acoustics:

Xbox Series X to Feature Dedicated Audio Hardware Acceleration

According to the description of a GDC 2020 presentation, the Xbox Series X will feature dedicated audio hardware accelaration

wccftech.com

Project Acoustics - Wave acoustics engine for 3D interactive experiences by Microsoft

If you want to read more about this https://github.com/microsoft/ProjectAcoustics https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/acoustics/what-is-acoustics Project Acoustics is a wave acoustics engine for 3D interactive experiences. It models wave effects like occlusion, obstruction...

www.neogaf.com

Also hardware based.

 

[Tamy]

From the Cerny presentation it sounded like you'll hear the difference even on TV speakers and especially with headphones, which I'm stoked for (i usually only game with a headset)

he also said that it will take YEARS until we reached that point. Until games are going to be developed based on that. YEARS.

 

[Kagey K]

Sony had 3D audio as an official feature in the specifications if I recall but I haven't seen Microsoft mention it even once. Good if true.

Source? Just educating myself.

Xbox Series X features a dedicated audio chip, confirms Microsoft

Let's set the record straight.

www.windowscentral.com

 

[Foamy]

This brand new Indy developer is all over Sony's dick aren't they.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Same applies to XSX btw.

No. To do 3D audio XSX will need its CPU.

 

[TLZ]

O Hellpoint Dev,

O Hellpoint Dev,

Show us the way

 

[01011001]

Same applies to XSX btw.

SSSSHHHHHH! don't disturb the circlejerk!

 

[DeepEnigma]

#XboxToo

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

No. To do 3D audio XSX will need its CPU.

Is this a hard fact? Why wouldn't the XsX audio chip handle heavy audio computation too?

 

[SleepDoctor]

"For us, it will MOST LIKELY mean PS5 MIGHT sound better"

These guys obviously don't have a dev kit lol. Why are we getting threads and articles for them? .

 

[NoMoChokeSJ]

I know this isn't apples to apples, but this is a benchmark screen from my PC with Gears Tactics. 88% GPU bound and 11% CPU bound, makes me wonder how much of a part the CPU even play in rendering next gen games.

 

[01011001]

"For us, it will MOST LIKELY mean PS5 MIGHT sound better"

These guys obviously don't have a dev kit lol. Why are we getting threads and articles for them? .

don't you mean they "most likely don't have a possible dev kit, possibly maybe at this point... maybe...." ?

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

"For us, it will MOST LIKELY mean PS5 MIGHT sound better"

These guys obviously don't have a dev kit lol. Why are we getting threads and articles for them? .

they are The Oracles

 

[HaveButOneLife]

Project acoustics:

Xbox Series X to Feature Dedicated Audio Hardware Acceleration

According to the description of a GDC 2020 presentation, the Xbox Series X will feature dedicated audio hardware accelaration

wccftech.com

Project Acoustics - Wave acoustics engine for 3D interactive experiences by Microsoft

If you want to read more about this https://github.com/microsoft/ProjectAcoustics https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/acoustics/what-is-acoustics Project Acoustics is a wave acoustics engine for 3D interactive experiences. It models wave effects like occlusion, obstruction...

www.neogaf.com

Also hardware based.

Thank you.

 

[geordiemp]

This is comedy

 

[-Arcadia-]

Hellpoint Dev is the 'Let's Get Ja Rule's Comment On 9/11' of the gaming industry.

 

[Barry Curtains]

"3D audio has been around for a long while,"
"But now it's hardware accelerated,"

 

[darkinstinct]

3D audio is the new secret sauce confirmed!!
lolno


Their game looks decent and nobody claimed their word was gospel, they're just giving their perspective.



Sony had 3D audio as an official feature in the specifications if I recall but I haven't seen Microsoft mention it even once. Good if true.

Source? Just educating myself.

Part of RDNA2 according to AMD.

 

[HaveButOneLife]

Part of RDNA2 according to AMD.

Ohhh okay.

If PS5 isn't utilizing RDNA2 then it's not going to fare well.

 

[CaptainClaw]

If "Hellpoint Devs" don't have an exclusive PS5 game shown this year I'll cash App everyone who likes this $1.00

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

If "Hellpoint Devs" don't have an exclusive PS5 game shown this year I'll cash App everyone who likes this $1.00

 

[BattleScar]

Hellpoint Dev is the 'Let's Get Ja Rule's Comment On 9/11' of the gaming industry.

At the very least Hellpoint has some actual knowledge of what they're constantly being asked about.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Is this a hard fact? Why wouldn't the XsX audio chip handle heavy audio computation too?

Because it's not powerful enough. Sony has more than the equivalent of 8 jaguar cores dedicated for audio on PS5. MS has just announced some audio hardware and that it will help doing audio in conjunction with its new API (API = software) project acoustic.

They have being very smart how they announced it, as usual, in order to make as if their their audio hardware would be able to do on its own all the things they promised with project acoustic. But it won't, it will just help.

Attendees will dive deep into the audio design pipeline (Project Acoustics) and the relationship to dedicated hardware-acceleration on newer generation Xbox consoles.

Notice how they put it: Project Acoustics and the relationship to dedicated hardware-acceleration. Very smart, and it worked as many people really thought they had the equivalent of Tempest CU in the XSX.

 

[AGRacing]

I know this isn't apples to apples, but this is a benchmark screen from my PC with Gears Tactics. 88% GPU bound and 11% CPU bound, makes me wonder how much of a part the CPU even play in rendering next gen games.

A bit of a chicken and the egg problem though. Don't forget this game needed to work with Xbox One from the beginning. PS5 games at least can be designed with the Zen 2 CPU as the lowest common denominator.

 

[darkinstinct]

I know this isn't apples to apples, but this is a benchmark screen from my PC with Gears Tactics. 88% GPU bound and 11% CPU bound, makes me wonder how much of a part the CPU even play in rendering next gen games.

Why would you need CPU in a round based strategy game? There is no simulation going on until the CPU moves. It's about the worst example you can come up with to talk about expectations for next gen games.

 

[Tiamat2san]

Séries X has an audio chip too for fuck's sake!
And it will rely on a professional standard used by the movie industry.
Not some secret sauce that is only PR words at the moment.

Fanboys can only register one type of brand information in their little hydrocephalic brains.
I guess that's must be why.

 

[Rayderism]

So, I wonder if the PS5's "dedicated sound hardware" is going to make the sound more or less glitchy than it is on PS4. The PS4 has quite a lot of sounds being clipped, go missing, and/or at odd volume levels in various games.

 

[Kiya's Guard]

Don't know what they are talking about. If it's the same game I played a demo/alpha version some time ago, it's a shitty souls clone, so why should they bother with ps5 specs

 

[Jtibh]

This brand new Indy developer is all over Sony's dick aren't they.

 

[Bigfroth]

Man! PS5 is just oozing secret sauce. Has Cerny or Sony released the address to where we can send pictures of our ears, so we can experience full 3d audio?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Ohhh okay.

If PS5 isn't utilizing RDNA2 then it's not going to fare well.

Don't pull this stealth bullshit in here and ruin a fun thread, heathen!

 

[NoMoChokeSJ]

Why would you need CPU in a round based strategy game? There is no simulation going on until the CPU moves. It's about the worst example you can come up with to talk about expectations for next gen games.

It was done during their benchmarking utility. Plus this is all ultra settings and all effects turned on.

 

[Bryank75]

I don't really see CPUs being taxed this next-gen. Unless there is some complex simulation game coming out, most games will be limited by the GPU.

That's pretty damning for the Series S so....

The companies should have agreed on a minimum spec for the generation, to stop dev teams wasting time on old and underpowered hardware.

 

[Virex]

You shut your dirty non believer mouth, heretic!

Hollowed are the Hellpoint Dev.

 

[Virex]

The dedicated audio chips will be a nice luxury for both consoles.

Has this been confirmed by Hellpoint dev?

 

[HaveButOneLife]

Don't pull this stealth bullshit in here and ruin a fun thread, heathen!

Can I speak to the manager?

Has this been confirmed by Hellpoint dev?

You're getting ahead of yourself, they'll let us know next week. The answer is yes, but actually no.

/s

 

[Caio]

A dedicated audio chip has been confirmed for the Xbox Series X, we all know.
Among the massive improvements coming with the Xbox Series X, in regards to audio and sound will be audio ray tracing, hardware accelerated ray tracing which will enable a whole new set of scenarios, whether that's more realistic lighting, better reflections, and things like spatial audio and have ray traced audio.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Can I speak to the manager?

 

[skneogaf]

All I want is dolby atmos on both consoles as it sounds absolutely amazing on both xbox one x and pc games that have it.

 

[Tesseract]

good for the kinds of games i like to make and play

always nice when you aren't sweating for extra modus here or there

danke, sony