That's kinda how ML works it gets better with time
PS5 Pro is getting a big upgrade in 2026 — I asked Mark Cerny what’s coming, and why AMD’s future PC GPUs feel more 'PlayStation' than ever
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Xaeroxcore666
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until now, how many PS5 Pros have been sold?
Sgt. Pinback
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No, I'm just pointing out that you're spreading FUD and you're full of shit. How's that?
crunchyBiscuits
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PSSR: where games upscale YOU
daninthemix
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It's always the future with Cerny. Never the now.
peish
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Has mark cerny lost it? I don't get what's happening, pssr was marketed as ps5 pro special sauce, one of the building blocks behind its customed apu design.
It was to dlss vs fsr vs xess vs pssr
Now pssr is just going to get replaced with fsr4? Mark upscaler philosophy defeated in a year? How many resources did he wasted to make pssr? The custom pssr silicon in pro becomes pointless?
It was to dlss vs fsr vs xess vs pssr
Now pssr is just going to get replaced with fsr4? Mark upscaler philosophy defeated in a year? How many resources did he wasted to make pssr? The custom pssr silicon in pro becomes pointless?
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DenchDeckard
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Sounds great.
Imagine if devs are required to go back into their games and patch this in again. I hope for everyone's sake sony makes it so this just overrides the pssr solution.
I dont think the pro is performing well enough in the market to warrant devs to go back to their games a second time and implement this.
Just wait for the tools on the ps5 pro!
So, they're giving up on pssr and just going with fsr 4?
What happened to ps5 pro being the test bed for gamers with pssr and it will improve by ps6? Then they just throw in the towel?
Imagine if devs are required to go back into their games and patch this in again. I hope for everyone's sake sony makes it so this just overrides the pssr solution.
I dont think the pro is performing well enough in the market to warrant devs to go back to their games a second time and implement this.
Just wait for the tools on the ps5 pro!
So, they're giving up on pssr and just going with fsr 4?
What happened to ps5 pro being the test bed for gamers with pssr and it will improve by ps6? Then they just throw in the towel?
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And that was before Microsoft took xbox series behind the woodshed and put a bullet in it.
Zero pressure on PS6 to release in 2027 imo. Guessing it'll be the longest ps generation by far.
//DEVIL//
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You are just proving to me again that you have a shit of a brain. I already explained it in my second post that things were kinda pointing towards a 2027 release most likely .
You insulting me because you are a butt hurt from all the fucking you are receiving doesn't change anything.
A next gen release for 2027 is more than likely and I stand by what I said it's 90% lock imo. You don't like what I said you can either shove a dildo or bang your head to the nearest wall. Doesn't really mean anything to me either way.
We done here.
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Perrott
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If the effort to get it into the game is really as much of a non-issue as Cerny is suggesting, then developers might see it as an opportunity to have a new marketing beat -- a year, two, three or more from launch -- for their titles, that could bring in some additional revenue from enthusiasts who may want to take advantage of their PS5 Pro with, perhaps, a title that before this updated upscaler came out might not have had the best PS5 Pro version out there -- thinking of Jedi Survivor, Dragon's Dogma II, Silent Hill 2 and other troubled games along these lines.
MrJangles
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Saint Cerny the Magnanimous
Makes him look more of a nonce than he already does
Physiognomonics
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they need marketing pr to sell those overpriced hardware now. soon cerny is going to talk about coupons
OverHeat
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damn! That's a little harsh men
Bernardougf
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Sony is trying to beat MS even in their "wait for next year" game
//DEVIL//
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Dude calls me full of shit and spreading fuds because I said next gen is 90% locked for 2027.
Some of the people here are so stupid it kinda stops me from even coming here much anymore and just go to discord if I have time .
The IQ level some of these people makes me question if they are actually in a mental hospital.
Whatever I am kinda done to be honest . If they want to ban me so be it
ShaiKhulud1989
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Regardless of silly warring posts here, it's a good sign both for PS5 Pro and for the future PS6 where this tech will be native and day-one. It is also terrific news for GTA VI, I think it will be the poster child for the tech.
I'm enjoying my Pro even without FSR4-like upscaling, but it will help a ton with troubled console UE5 prots like potential Atomic Heart, Ill or potential 3rd game in the Jedi series (I'm not hopeful with Respawn here).
I'm enjoying my Pro even without FSR4-like upscaling, but it will help a ton with troubled console UE5 prots like potential Atomic Heart, Ill or potential 3rd game in the Jedi series (I'm not hopeful with Respawn here).
Ashamam
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Wow, low information take. Zero resources wasted as all of it enabled FSR4 (and the continuing PSSR fork) to exist. Here I'll make it simple.
The codepath.
| Sony led | Collab | PC/Console Forks | ||
| PSSR | -> | FSR4 | | -> | FSR4.x |
| | -> | PSSR.x |
Guess what enables PSSR.x? The custom silicon.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
This new PSSR / FSR tech is coming to PS5 too… neat…
"And we're in the process of implementing it on PS5 and it will release next year on PS5 Pro."
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Oh no, I was almost concerned you would not show up in a non negative Sony thread to take the piss. No worries, next time you cry the victim in a MS thread people will comfort you… there thereGreat, they might finally fix Silent Hill 2 on Pro next year
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Donald mac Ronald
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How often do men think of the USSR?
winjer
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One thing to consider is how AMD implements FSR4.
There is no FSR4 SDK. There is only the FSR3.1 SDK.
So a dev implements FSR3.1 in their game, and then AMD whitelists a game for FSR4 in their driver. And FSR4 reads the FSR3.1 inputs and then does it's AI thing.
This is why FSR4 now supports close to 70 games. Because AMD is just upgrading older FSr3.1 games.
Sony will probably follow a similar path. Devs will continue to implement PSSR and in the future, Sony will enable FSR4, reading the inputs from PSSR, by updating the Firmware.
So chances are that when FSR4 releases on the PS5 Pro, there will be a bunch of games with immediate support for FSR4, without devs having to do anything.
BTW, Optiscaler just released version 0.7.7-pre12, increasing support for 282 games.
github.com
There is no FSR4 SDK. There is only the FSR3.1 SDK.
So a dev implements FSR3.1 in their game, and then AMD whitelists a game for FSR4 in their driver. And FSR4 reads the FSR3.1 inputs and then does it's AI thing.
This is why FSR4 now supports close to 70 games. Because AMD is just upgrading older FSr3.1 games.
Sony will probably follow a similar path. Devs will continue to implement PSSR and in the future, Sony will enable FSR4, reading the inputs from PSSR, by updating the Firmware.
So chances are that when FSR4 releases on the PS5 Pro, there will be a bunch of games with immediate support for FSR4, without devs having to do anything.
BTW, Optiscaler just released version 0.7.7-pre12, increasing support for 282 games.
Release Nightly Builds · optiscaler/OptiScaler
Changes since 0.7.7-pre9 It's been a while since we've uploaded a public build (2 months now), thanks to a lot happening in the meantime. Lots of code revamping, HUDfix overhauls, FSR4 improvements...
github.com
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Physiognomonics
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ms are gonna love use cerny's fsr4 in gta6 on their next box, the best version to play the game
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Ashamam
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The article made mention of them talking to devs around implementing the 'new' PSSR. I wouldn't take that as them automatically following AMD's lead, the console philosophy around ease of use, QA levels and the like are pretty different to PC. My money would be on a patch being required, just like at present.
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Felessan
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Depends on developers will and free resources. As with CBR - some updated games years after release, some was not.
Which piece of hardware now is not overpriced (PS, Xbox, Switch2, PC GPU)?
And every piece is overpriced - maybe it's your perception that is wrong?
RetroGamingUK
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So, when this happens, you'll simply start the game and notice the differences without any patches or update messages?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
This would be perfect.
RetroGamingUK
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Only this year have PS5 players overtaken PS4 player.
People are going to be using PS5 and PS5 Pro well into the 2030s.
Lucifers Beard
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You really think next gen will be in 2027? I really hope not, aside from a few titles, this generation feels like a wet fart in the wind so far. I'm hoping it's 2028 or 2029 at the earliest.
Sgt. Pinback
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Again, your claims that it's 'a lock' are bullshit.
I neither like nor dislike what you said. I'm pointing out that it's an assertion with no facts to back it up.
You don't like that? That's okay. I don't care. You are more than welcome to go fuck yourself with an unlubricated cactus while your mother watches on in tears, since your babbling and crying doesn't change the fact that you are talking garbage, you're a bullshit artist, and you're retarded.
NOW we are done here.
balls of snow
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The thing about dlss on pc that makes it magical is you can force dlss 4 for games that have inferior version of the upscaller without the devs coming in and doing a dedicated patch. Like Jedi Survivor will still look that blurry on ps5 pro when this latest pssr update hits. Its only worth it for future games of which how many is likely gonna be next gen anyway.
Team Andromeda
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Remind me why I paid £700
Judge Magister
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Whatever, i never understood why proprietary PSSR was needed when AMD and Sony work so close and AMD was already trying to improve its own FSR.
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Tiago Rodrigues
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If PS6 comes out in like 2028...that would put PS5 Pro's release halfway through PS5's lifetime. And considering how the crossgen period are now bigger then ever, having a PS5 Pro will be more than fine for years during the PS6's life as well...
Senua
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Rien
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So it isn't just me alone
There is but it's not available publicly.
Pretty sure the current version of PSSR doesn't work like that (allowing system-level dll swaps).
Seomel
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Silent hill 2 remake and alan wake 2What ps5 pro games are having issues with frame rate and/or image quality right now?
winjer
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Really? I haven't seen one single game using FSR4 natively.
All I have tried are using FSR3.1, but with the toggle on the Radeon control panel.
It's really strange that AMD still hasn't released the FSR4 SDK.
It's not exactly an swap, but injecting or intercepting the inputs.
That's how FSR4 intercepts the FSR3.1 inputs and does it's thing.
Or how Optiscaler can read inputs from DLSS/XeSS/FSR2-3 and inject any other upscaler.
So Sony can have the Pro version of FSR4 to read the PSSR inputs and replace it with FSR4.
And mind you, unlike AMD that only controls the drivers in Windows/Linux, Sony controls the firmware, OS and drivers on the PS5 Pro.
Kamina
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Gaiff
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Probably a typo. The article also mentions that it's not possible on the base PS5.