PSP Remaster Series Announced for PlayStation 3
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Deleted member 80556
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So there's one thing I don't get: Will I be able to play with people from Europe if I'm in United States or vice-versa.
Because limiting (AGAIN) the MP to local would be horrible for me since I'm the only one who likes MGS and MH.
Edit: Sorry, I'm not sure if PW's MP was limited, but I've read that in some forums that they couldn't play co-op because of that.
Because limiting (AGAIN) the MP to local would be horrible for me since I'm the only one who likes MGS and MH.
Edit: Sorry, I'm not sure if PW's MP was limited, but I've read that in some forums that they couldn't play co-op because of that.
androvsky said:
And if those rumors about the God of War Portable Collection are true (I understand Sony Taiwan reportedly issued a press release, but it isn't hosted anywhere on their site so I'm not going to give it a 100% confirmation), Ghost of Sparta is coming, and once again that's a 6 month old game that goes for $40.
Philanthropist
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Araxen said:
There are two of them, and yes, they are coming.
Fuck PSP HD games, I am still waiting for PS2 HD games like:
Silent Hill 2 HD
DMC3 HD
Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 HD
Tales of the Abyss HD
For me I would only pick up games I haven't played before, and all the above PS2 games I have never played before and can't be bothered to go and find PS2 versions and plug in my old PS2.
Silent Hill 2 HD
DMC3 HD
Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 HD
Tales of the Abyss HD
For me I would only pick up games I haven't played before, and all the above PS2 games I have never played before and can't be bothered to go and find PS2 versions and plug in my old PS2.
BobTheFork
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Well we were using dollars $$ so I thought that meant America. I don't think that version of Monster Hunter is on psp here is it? So consider that they sold GoW HD collection for $20 a game, I doubt they will do the same thing to a PSP GoW games and charge more for it.androvsky said:
Agent X
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jsnepo said:
For now, you would have to buy the PS3 and PSP versions separately. Even if you bought the digital download of the PSP games, I don't think they'd go through the trouble of making "remastered" versions on PS3 just to give away for free out of the goodness of their hearts. At least the game saves will be compatible between the two.
In the future, there's a possibility they could set it up so they make a "remastered" game and sell it as a downloadable game that's compatible with both NGP and PS3 (or possibly NGP and PS4). This probably won't happen until the PSP and PS2 have disappeared from retail.
herzogzwei1989
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There's nothing I want more than R-Type Command.
Professor Beef
Banned
Why are people setting themselves up for disappointment by expecting trophies?
The list of what we want is probably far, far longer than what we will actually get. How many remastered PS2 HD games have we gotten at this point compared to the potential of the PS2's library? A fraction. I know it isn't an apples to apples comparison but I don't see much hope for these PSP Remasters beyond the usual suspects that we've already mentioned. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised though!
lol. Rather, all I ever wanted was a UMD reader add-on via usb.Utako said:Never forget, the worst decision Sony ever made was to launch the PS3 without UMD and PSP game compatibility.
They've been trying for years to make up for it.
And my god, that looks like an industrially designed brick, sony-fied. lol
They should have done this at least two years ago, back when devs still had a decent stake in PSP. It could have helped a lot of awesome titles get the attention they deserved, and even renewed western interest in the platform. But now that most devs have pulled out in anticipation for NGP, I doubt it'll have the impact it could have had.
At least it's a neat way to start the whole play on the go then come home and continue at home idea that seems to be the theme of the next gen considering Cafe's current rumors.
At least it's a neat way to start the whole play on the go then come home and continue at home idea that seems to be the theme of the next gen considering Cafe's current rumors.
Considering a recent crisis or two, I think this was far from the worst decision they've ever made.Utako said:
Professor Beef
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Because they're still PSP games. They're going to be sharing save data with each other. The PSP doesn't have a trophy system, so if you do something while playing your PSP, you won't get anything. That alone would make people rage, since it means they'd have to do it all over again on the PS3 side. It would just be easier to not implement trophies into these games at all.duffyside said:
Agent X
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duffyside said:
The reason why some people are figuring "remastered" PSP games won't have trophies on PS3 has to do with the fact that you can transfer saved game data between the PSP and PS3. This fact by itself is seemingly innocuous, and you might not consider it an obstacle...until you realize that PSP hackers were able to cheat on games. This means that certain PSP saved game files might not reflect any actual accomplishment for someone who cheated to get there.
Although PS2 was also hacked, "remastered" PS2 games on PS3 didn't suffer from this problem because the PS3 conversions couldn't load PS2 saved data in the first place.
Professor Beef said:
Perhaps, but if they're planning on selling these at retail, then aren't trophies required now? If they decide to bend the rules here, then it's possible they might cite PSP cheaters as a reason why the PS3 remakes can't have trophies.
Another possibility is that they could implement "online only" trophies, meaning that they could only be earned on PS3, and only while playing online. This would disregard any prior PSP accomplishments (whether actual or "cheated"), as you'd have to earn the trophies during an online game session.
Professor Beef
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That would actually be a great workaround, to be honest.Agent X said:
Personally, I'm not going to hold my breath for trophies for these games. If it happens, that's cool. But I am in no way expecting it.
chaosblade
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I don't see why these games couldn't have trophies. Since the developers are going to have to go back and make modifications anyway they could probably be added pretty easily.
And save compatibility doesn't mean much, the save file could have a section for the PS3 only that the PSP just ignores if necessary.
If they don't have trophies, it's for the reason Agent X mentioned, hackers/cheaters. Not because they can't be added.
And save compatibility doesn't mean much, the save file could have a section for the PS3 only that the PSP just ignores if necessary.
If they don't have trophies, it's for the reason Agent X mentioned, hackers/cheaters. Not because they can't be added.
Pretty cool news.
I would like:
- Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier
- Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep
- Final Fantasy Agito (or whatever it's called, the one with the crazy trailer last year)
- Parasite Eve: The 3rd Birthday
- Power Stone Collection
- Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (I should probably stay away from this, but I can't help it)
- Syphon Filter Dark Mirror
- Syphon Filter Logan's Shadow
- God of War: Chains of Olympus
- God of War: Ghost of Sparta
These are the games I want to play. I mean, I probably won't play all of them but it's a good selection of choices. I actually already own Jak and Daxter. Picked it up for 8 quid because I thought I was going to buy a PSP very soon after it. Turns out I have no intention of that at all.
This will be a great help.
Also, Uncharted NGP on PS3 too please. Thanks.
I would like:
- Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier
- Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep
- Final Fantasy Agito (or whatever it's called, the one with the crazy trailer last year)
- Parasite Eve: The 3rd Birthday
- Power Stone Collection
- Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (I should probably stay away from this, but I can't help it)
- Syphon Filter Dark Mirror
- Syphon Filter Logan's Shadow
- God of War: Chains of Olympus
- God of War: Ghost of Sparta
These are the games I want to play. I mean, I probably won't play all of them but it's a good selection of choices. I actually already own Jak and Daxter. Picked it up for 8 quid because I thought I was going to buy a PSP very soon after it. Turns out I have no intention of that at all.
This will be a great help.
Also, Uncharted NGP on PS3 too please. Thanks.
Professor Beef
Banned
Why go through all the extra hassle for trophies? You could make this exact same argument for the PS1 games that get released on PSN.chaosblade said:
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
Carlisle said:
What's that decision? Being hacked? I can see how that was a bad "decision". And taking away OtherOS that no one used, that completely justified what the hackers did <sarcasm>.
Way too much weirdness going on in this thread. More games to choose from on the PS3 can only be a good thing. Ports are going to be fairly easy to do, and those of us who want to play the great PSP games from the past few years on the big screen in HD are going to be very happy. For those who aren't interested in those games, they don't have to buy them. It's not really taking away any resources from making other games. A few people in this thread seem to forget that Sony puts out the most exclusive games out there, and they pretty much all have a metacritic ranking of 80% (most being in high 80s and low 90s).
I'm very excited about this personally. My list of definite buys if they release them:
- Dissidia 1+2
- Birth by Sleep
- 3rd Birthday
- GoW PSP games (which seem confirmed already)
- Final Fantasy Crisis Core
- Peacewalker
- Loco Rocco 1+2
- Final Fantasy Type 0 (though not sure if realistic to expect it)
That's pretty much it.
Peace Walker, GTA Chinatown Wars & Ace Combat Series and I can sell my GO haha
I would ask for Birth by Sleep by I already know SE/Disney are c**ts
Exactly, its a great dry run for Sony.
Also, didn't Kojima specific mention this kind of thing being his dream (play on console, continue on the portable). He truely is a god
Ace Combat X takes the cake for hand crusher on the PSP for me
I would ask for Birth by Sleep by I already know SE/Disney are c**ts
toasty_T said:
Exactly, its a great dry run for Sony.
Also, didn't Kojima specific mention this kind of thing being his dream (play on console, continue on the portable). He truely is a god
Mr_Brit said:
Ace Combat X takes the cake for hand crusher on the PSP for me
frAntic_Frog
Member
Utako said:Never forget, the worst decision Sony ever made was to launch the PS3 without UMD and PSP game compatibility.
They've been trying for years to make up for it.
i wonder if nintendo gets such flak for not including DS/3DS compatibility in Wii
seems to me people give nintendo handhelds a free pass and just buy them obediently
whereas sony MUST port PSP games to PS3 or else they are douchbags
frAntic_Frog said:
That's because the mentality Sony went with was "console gaming on the go." Most of the best games are entries that feel shoehorned into the platform. It didn't do much for them except some local co-op modes people outside Japan didn't really care about (we're still in that real men don't play portables in public mentality). So essentially there were a lot of games that wanted an extra analog stick they never had or felt like console leftovers. Nobody really cared about playing DS on Wii because they are two very different things with very different play styles and not just portable/non-portable. Plus Nintendo did offer both Super Gameboy and Gameboy player in the days before DS and it was well received. They got a pass because they did it right.
frAntic_Frog
Member
then i certainly hope NGP games make prevalent use of the touchscreen and touchpads thus making porting to PS3 rather impractical
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The PS1 classics are straight disc image dumps that are emulated. There is no trophy data and no way to add it without modifying the emulator (risking less compatibility). With remastered PSP games they are already modifying the games, so adding trophies wouldn't add much more work on top of what they already have to do.Professor Beef said:
Anyway, I couldn't care less whether or not they have trophies, don't get me wrong. I'd go as far as asking why they bother with trophies on retail PS3 games, the entire concept of trophies and achievements seems silly to me.
The DS and 3DS are inherently harder to put on another platform since they have two screens and a touchscreen. There's not really any way to display that on a TV and get the same functionality with the same ease.
The PSP doesn't have any distinctive features that would make it's games difficult or impossible to play on a TV. The NGP changes that a bit, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are less calls for ports of NGP games to PS3/PS4. Especially if they have a dock with TV output, but they don't seem to be planning anything like that right now.
Somnid said:
The problem was never with the PSP library, or with the idea of a platform that can handle console-type titles. Up until the release of the DS, every portable was just that - a handheld version of a console, a gen or two behind current console tech in terms of capability, that you could play portable versions of popular console games on. By that yardstick, the PSP's pretty damn impressive.
The problem - if you want to call it a problem - is that the DS came along, and suddenly wasn't enough for handhelds to be portable consoles anymore. No, now a handheld had to do something different. It had to have games built around two screens, or ones that used a touchscreen and stylus - the gaming public had spoken, and meat-and-potatoes console-style gaming on the go just didn't cut it anymore.
Now, as far as I'm concerned, that's a load of horseshit. I've never liked stylus-based gameplay, I don't like the screen real estate split between two vertically-stacked screens, and my main interest is console-style gameplay. Needless to say, the PSP's my handheld of choice. I don't feel that the games on the system feel in any way 'shoehorned into' it, not in the sense of them being an uncomfortable fit. (And if by 'shoehorned' you mean, 'I always wanted to play those kinds of games on the big screen in my living room, because anything else feels too small for me', well, sorry to hear it, but that's not a failing of the platform or the games.)
The PSP succeeds at what it set out to do. What it set out to do may not be for everyone, but that's fine. It works for me, and with the direction Nintendo's gone in after the GBA, Sony's the only player left in the handheld market catering to my particular niche. Now that the PSP's nearing the end of its life cycle, making these titles available for the PS3 won't seriously affect the future of the platform anymore, so it's nice that non-PSP owners will get to play some of the titles they've missed.
yurinka
Member
The PSP remakes are confirmed to be out in disc, and unless they change, this means the games will have trophis. It's rumored to appear in PSN too, and that some of them would be download only.Agent X said:
About the trophies / PSP savedata, I would release a new firmware for PSP, required for these games, where the savedata is hashed or encrypted badly, in a unique way for each game.