PSP Remaster Series Announced for PlayStation 3

yurinka said:
The PSP remakes are confirmed to be out in disc, and unless they change, this means the games will have trophis. It's rumored to appear in PSN too, and that some of them would be download only.

About the trophies / PSP savedata, I would release a new firmware for PSP, required for these games, where the savedata is hashed or encrypted badly, in a unique way for each game.
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About that, I wonder if the cloud storage of save files will eventually make it to the PSP.
 
chaosblade said:
I don't see why these games couldn't have trophies. Since the developers are going to have to go back and make modifications anyway they could probably be added pretty easily.

And save compatibility doesn't mean much, the save file could have a section for the PS3 only that the PSP just ignores if necessary.

If they don't have trophies, it's for the reason Agent X mentioned, hackers/cheaters. Not because they can't be added.
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Also add that they gotta lock the datasaves first. Anyone on PSP can download a complete datasave making trophies easy to get. That is why everyone would likely have to start over (which defeats the purpose of an old data save). I guarantee that would not make most people happy. Eric Lempel (if he's who I'm thinking of in this case) even stated that current PSP games were never getting trophies due to high piracy (to cheat the system).
yurinka said:
The PSP remakes are confirmed to be out in disc, and unless they change, this means the games will have trophis. It's rumored to appear in PSN too, and that some of them would be download only.

About the trophies / PSP savedata, I would release a new firmware for PSP, required for these games, where the savedata is hashed or encrypted badly, in a unique way for each game.
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If the PSP HD games are considered a service, they may not have trophies (like SNK games for PSN). Also keep in mind that if there were really trophies, they would have made a big deal on it.
 
BoilersFan23 said:
Also keep in mind that if there were really trophies, they would have made a big deal on it.
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NGP games have trophies but they never made a big deal out of that. I suspect these PS3 versions of PSP games will have trophies for both BD and PS3 releases.
 
BoilersFan23 said:
If the PSP HD games are considered a service, they may not have trophies (like SNK games for PSN). Also keep in mind that if there were really trophies, they would have made a big deal on it.
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PSP HD remakes are confirmed to be released in BluRay, as full games. So right now this means they will have Trophies unless they change their policy. Their PSN version is a not confirmed rumor.

And looks like they won't be 100% emulation lke Neogeo games, because they are getting optional additional features which need additional coding, like 3D or 2nd analog usage for the camera or on-line (not mandatory features for all PSP remakes).
TTP said:
About that, I wonder if the cloud storage of save files will eventually make it to the PSP.
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Wise words.

This would solve the problem, at least until the upcoming PSP firmware with this new feature would be hacked and after that, it would need game specific memory hacking, something that would need some time and would be really annoying for hackers. It may be too complex to implement.
 
Tellaerin said:
The problem was never with the PSP library, or with the idea of a platform that can handle console-type titles. Up until the release of the DS, every portable was just that - a handheld version of a console, a gen or two behind current console tech in terms of capability, that you could play portable versions of popular console games on. By that yardstick, the PSP's pretty damn impressive.
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By functionality there wasn't much to set Game Boy Color apart from older home consoles, but it was a decidedly lower tech, cheaper, different experience than what was concurrently being offered on N64. If they'd been going with the PSP strategy at the time, we might've seen something like Ocarina of Time as a home game, and Majora's Mask as a portable game trying to feel the same with a few less buttons. But that being impossible, they had to do things like Oracle of Ages/Seasons. By being less behind, PSP had the strange disadvantage of having games too much like the ones being played now at home, or the ones just past--rather than playing like games old enough to be ready for a comeback.
 
Suzzopher said:
Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max HD please!
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Other than Peace Walker, this is what comes to mind.

I'm not sure if it will happen though because Capcom has already announced Alpha 3 PSX for PSN. Alpha 3 PSX isn't a bad version mind you (I actually don't care for the extras they put in Max) but I'd like to see no load times and online play.
 
yurinka said:
The PSP remakes are confirmed to be out in disc, and unless they change, this means the games will have trophis. It's rumored to appear in PSN too, and that some of them would be download only.

About the trophies / PSP savedata, I would release a new firmware for PSP, required for these games, where the savedata is hashed or encrypted badly, in a unique way for each game.
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Doesn't matter how much Sony encrypts the save files if people can easily use cheat programs while the game is running... which they can, with Monster Hunter Portable 3rd, now, and most likely in the future too.
 
gembel said:
dont know if new or not..

but according to SCEJ Support page, PSP remasters will not support trophies.
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Cant understand why, surely adding trophies is easy to do?

Also: I thought Trophies were mandatory for all PS3 games these days.
 
I always wanted to play Patapon, but I'd never buy a PSP.

I can't believe they didn't do this sooner. It's a no-brainer.
 
What up with you people? Why isn't Loco Roco and Patapon in everyone's lists? I needed that shit years ago on PSN.
 
Adamm said:
Cant understand why, surely adding trophies is easy to do?

Also: I thought Trophies were mandatory for all PS3 games these days.
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Like I said a few posts up, it's because it's too easy to cheat the system on PSP. It's why the PSP doesn't have them already.
 
keyrat said:
I can't believe they didn't do this sooner. It's a no-brainer.
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I really cant understand how all of you keep saying this. Did you really think Sony was gonna risk PSP sales by just releasing PSP games on another platform? it would have been one of the most stupid decisions ever.

Now that the PSP is in its last year, it makes sense. Before this? it didnt.
 
SalsaShark said:
I really cant understand how all of you keep saying this. Did you really think Sony was gonna risk PSP sales by just releasing PSP games on another platform? it would have been one of the most stupid decisions ever.
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Daxter, Secret Agent Clank, Size Matters, MotorStorm Arctic Edge, and Lost Frontier say hi.
 
SalsaShark said:
I really cant understand how all of you keep saying this. Did you really think Sony was gonna risk PSP sales by just releasing PSP games on another platform? it would have been one of the most stupid decisions ever.

Now that the PSP is in its last year, it makes sense. Before this? it didnt.
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I just can't imagine that there are that many people who bought a PSP for its games and not because it was portable, especially considering the lost revenue from people like me who would have bought the games on the PSN.
 
This sounds potentially awesome. Not sure why people are asking for HD ports of games that aren't even out yet. I'm sure this list will be limited to PSP classics.

edit: So would you need to buy both the PSP and PS3 versions? Or would the PSP data also be on the PS3 disc? Because that would be fucking ace.
 
Father_Brain said:
Daxter, Secret Agent Clank, Size Matters, MotorStorm Arctic Edge, and Lost Frontier say hi.
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You know what i meant. Releasing some, exclusive titles on PS2 made sense if they wanted to keep the steady flow of old platforms selling (it worked). In PS3 it made no sense.

keyrat said:
I just can't imagine that there are that many people who bought a PSP for its games and not because it was portable, especially considering the lost revenue from people like me who would have bought the games on the PSN.
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I have a PSP and i play 99 percent of the time indoors. Much more interested in something like Ys, Half-Minute Hero and Patapon than most PS3 exclusives.
 
Father_Brain said:
Daxter, Secret Agent Clank, Size Matters, MotorStorm Arctic Edge, and Lost Frontier say hi.
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there's still GoW, KH BBS, Crisis Core, MH, VC, Jeanne d'arc, and many many other. even if Sony decide to port their psp games to ps2, they're not in too much danger of losing psp hardware sales because there are plenty other exclusive high profile games to hold PSP.
 
Callibretto said:
there's still GoW, KH BBS, Crisis Core, MH, VC, Jeanne d'arc, and many many other. even if Sony decide to port their psp games to ps2, they're not in too much danger of losing psp hardware sales because there are plenty other exclusive high profile games to hold PSP.
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Monster Hunter already wasn't exclusive - assuming you're talking about MH3, that first released on the Wii (and MH1/2 released on the PS2, IIRC) before coming to the PSP (and now MH3 is coming to the PS3). And, given what this thread is about, it's entirely possible that most of the PSP's high-profile exclusives will become less so. That is actually NOT a bad thing for the PSP (or the NGP for that matter) if it makes it look like a safe place to develop games.

Look at it this way: the PC/PS3/360 ecosystem has generally defined this generation of games because the vast majority of third party titles have been released on either two of those platforms or all three of them, and because it's fairly easy to target all three in development. Sony's trying to artificially create a similarly 'safe' ecosystem between the PSP and PS3 (and, soon enough, the PSP2 and PS3, most likely) while also giving themselves a chance to leverage the PSP's back catalog for additional sales (much as they're doing with the PS2's back catalog). The PSP's lifetime (in terms of software releases, if not in terms of Japanese sales) is nearly at an end, and it's not a bad time for Sony to start making use of its library to get some additional bucks out of consumers.
 
Adamm said:
Also: I thought Trophies were mandatory for all PS3 games these days.
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Too bad these are PSP games then.

Rlan said:
What up with you people? Why isn't Loco Roco and Patapon in everyone's lists? I needed that shit years ago on PSN.
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Would you want to play Fruit Ninja on the uDraw tablet for Wii?

Exactly.

The definition of handheld games are pick up and play, and for anyone to keep their sanity playing a Patapon game, that's the philosophy to take.

Father_Brain said:
Daxter, Secret Agent Clank, Size Matters, MotorStorm Arctic Edge, and Lost Frontier say hi.
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Daxter is PSP only, and the rest either received ports well after the PSP version, are gimped in some way (no online multiplayer for Motorstorm on PS2), or no one ever cared about them (The Lost Frontier).

badcrumble said:
Monster Hunter already wasn't exclusive - assuming you're talking about MH3, that first released on the Wii (and MH1/2 released on the PS2, IIRC) before coming to the PSP (and now MH3 is coming to the PS3). And, given what this thread is about, it's entirely possible that most of the PSP's high-profile exclusives will become less so. That is actually NOT a bad thing for the PSP (or the NGP for that matter) if it makes it look like a safe place to develop games.
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Monster Hunter Tri (3) and Monster Hunter Portable 3rd are not the same game. Prior to this announcement, the only place 3rd was on PSP, and the only place Tri is on Wii.
 
frAntic_Frog said:
then i certainly hope NGP games make prevalent use of the touchscreen and touchpads thus making porting to PS3 rather impractical
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Yeah because god forbid having the option to play a game on your big screen tv on your comfy couch.
 
Souther said:
Valkyrie Profile Lenneth.
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this and the recent valkyria chronicles are the ones i'd want the most. all are probably longshots, lenneth being the biggest one.

i'd think peace walker would have a pretty good chance, at least. that's another i'd be interested in.
 
I really doubt there's gonna be a big lineup for this really..

id say Peace Walker and the God of War games (maybe just the second one) are a given

besides that, huh.. Patapon? Kingdom Hearts?
 
badcrumble said:
Monster Hunter already wasn't exclusive - assuming you're talking about MH3, that first released on the Wii (and MH1/2 released on the PS2, IIRC) before coming to the PSP (and now MH3 is coming to the PS3). And, given what this thread is about, it's entirely possible that most of the PSP's high-profile exclusives will become less so. That is actually NOT a bad thing for the PSP (or the NGP for that matter) if it makes it look like a safe place to develop games.

Look at it this way: the PC/PS3/360 ecosystem has generally defined this generation of games because the vast majority of third party titles have been released on either two of those platforms or all three of them, and because it's fairly easy to target all three in development. Sony's trying to artificially create a similarly 'safe' ecosystem between the PSP and PS3 (and, soon enough, the PSP2 and PS3, most likely) while also giving themselves a chance to leverage the PSP's back catalog for additional sales (much as they're doing with the PS2's back catalog). The PSP's lifetime (in terms of software releases, if not in terms of Japanese sales) is nearly at an end, and it's not a bad time for Sony to start making use of its library to get some additional bucks out of consumers.
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I'm not sure what we're arguing here. I agree with you that psp remastered is great idea and the timing is great, now that PSP is in it's final years.
 
SalsaShark said:
I really doubt there's gonna be a big lineup for this really..

id say Peace Walker and the God of War games (maybe just the second one) are a given

besides that, huh.. Patapon? Kingdom Hearts?
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shared save data, using adhoc party and no trophies like PS1 and Minis give me hope this is enhanced emulation instead of port jobs, which will make it more widely supported by publishers (since they can just dump their iso with some minor tweak maybe)
 
SalsaShark said:
I really doubt there's gonna be a big lineup for this really..

id say Peace Walker and the God of War games (maybe just the second one) are a given

besides that, huh.. Patapon? Kingdom Hearts?
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Crisis Core
Dissidia
Peace Walker
MHP3rd
God of War: Chains of Olympus
God of War: Ghost of Sparta
Resistance: Retribution
GTA: Vice City Stories
GTA: Liberty City Stories

etc.

Some of these would be really nice to have included for free in a collectors edition for a sequel coming out (GTA V, Resistance 3 etc).
 
Galvanise_ said:
Crisis Core
Dissidia
Peace Walker
MHP3rd
God of War: Chains of Olympus
God of War: Ghost of Sparta
Resistance: Retribution
GTA: Vice City Stories
GTA: Liberty City Stories

etc.
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I know how many there could be, im just saying the ones that i think are most likely

not seeing the GTAs and the Resistance game making it

IMO of course
 
ShadiWulf said:
This was posted in the VC forums at SEGA:
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1568/vc3rr.jpg

I want to believe... but the person didn't post a source.. but it looks so real.. but... T_T
I'm starting to get my hopes up now and think maybe that's why SEGA is taking so long to announce VC3 in the west.

http://forums.sega.com/showthread.p...-for-the-PS3&p=6666126&viewfull=1#post6666126
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That would be awesome. It will totally make up for the lack of JRPG's this generation if more publishers follow.
 
gembel said:
dont know if new or not..

but according to SCEJ Support page, PSP remasters will not support trophies.
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Source, please?

If this is confirmed, now we have 3 main questions about PSP remaster series:
-If you buy the PS3 version, does it include the PSP version or code? In this case it would justify a full price for the BluRay

-Price? I bet it will be the same than PS2 HD games or Platinum games, or even higher to avoid cheaper prices in PS3 than in PSP if it doesn't include the PSP version in the disc.

-Are JP only games use this opportunity to reach the west to be localized? Maybe now some games which failed in PSP can work decently in PS3 worldwide, if as it looks the port is very cheap.

Adamm said:
Cant understand why, surely adding trophies is easy to do?

Also: I thought Trophies were mandatory for all PS3 games these days.
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They are mandatory, but maybe they mae an exception for the PSP Remaster Series:

-They can be easily hacked through PSP savedata
-To avoid extra work/costs for the developers who are porting it as low as possible, keeping their mandatory work only as to be emulated properly in HD (3D, 2nd analog, on-line are optional), giving them an opportunity to try to get some extra money in PS3 for a PSP for a very low cost

They can justify to not include trophies saying this is a separated label not considered as PS3 games (as happens with Minis or PSOne games, that also can be playable in PSP).
 
VC is probably one of the games that will most benefit from these remasters. Characters are well detailed, environments never were too much detailed even on VC1, and the artstyle probably benefits the upscale
 
ShadiWulf said:
This was posted in the VC forums at SEGA:
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1568/vc3rr.jpg

I want to believe... but the person didn't post a source.. but it looks so real.. but... T_T
I'm starting to get my hopes up now and think maybe that's why SEGA is taking so long to announce VC3 in the west.

http://forums.sega.com/showthread.p...-for-the-PS3&p=6666126&viewfull=1#post6666126
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I sure do hope this is true! And that it will be released in English. But I sure hope they'll release VC2 also. I'll buy both games in a heartbeat!!
 
Graphics Horse said:
Well it also has more consistent shadows and higher resolution smoke, but yeah pretty much.
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Considering GT PSP is 480x272 I wouldn't be so sure about that.

The smoke in the PSP version is a joke
 
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