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Puzzle & Dragons |OT4| Co-op Edition: Stoning With Friends

W-00

Member
How is everyone starting Coop plays?

Every time I start a game or look for a game there's no one.

Never really cared for Coop before but now when all the new content are near impossible SOLO and me being fortunate enough to have an ALB team, I feel like I need to get in the action.

What are you trying now? I just go to PADX and post room and team info in the multi room. I generally get someone joining in a minute or two.
 

Jagernaut

Member
How is everyone starting Coop plays?

Every time I start a game or look for a game there's no one.

Never really cared for Coop before but now when all the new content are near impossible SOLO and me being fortunate enough to have an ALB team, I feel like I need to get in the action.

It's easy to find players on the discord app.

Regular server:
https://discordapp.com/invite/pad

Awoken Liu Bei server:
https://discord.gg/49ZQf2T

Myr server:
https://discordapp.com/invite/nuBn3M8
 

Kreed

Member
My biggest complaint about multiplayer is the 1/2 stamina. Sometimes I just want to roll solo, I can clear stuff faster, have more lead and time flexibility, and if I fuck up it's on me.

But with 1/2 stamina costs on anything worth doing I feel like those perks aren't worth the opportunity cost of losing all the extra runs I could do. I like multiplayer in the game just fine, I think it's a great way to meet new folks playing the game (since no one local plays), but the heavy focus on multi makes it tough to enjoy solo when you know you're being really inefficient with stamina.

I like solo clearing tough content. I try to do all the challenge dungeons solo, I'm super proud of my solo Arena 1 clear but knowing I could knock out all the challenges in one go (with careful stamina management) coop versus only a few at a time solo is a real bummer. I'm hoping they'll do something about that. Coop still has plenty of benefits without halving stamina costs. People will still farm coop as it's WAY more efficient than running solo in longer dungeons. The extra HP safety net for annihilation level threats is also a solid motivator for multiplayer. Then there's the extra skill boosts and SBR benefits. All this is a long way of saying make everything 1/2 stamina. Multi has enough perks that doubling solo stamina efficiency on top of it is overkill.

It'd be nice if they at least gave you the MP and PAL point rewards in solo since you're spending double the stamina (IMO you should get double the MP and PAL points in solo that you get in multiplayer along with double the exp to make it fair).
 

Bladelaw

Member
Tama times today are not great. I have a lot of monsters to awaken and not a whole lot of time to do it. I wasn't planning on hunting for a specific jewel with Gift of the holy beasts but it would have been nice to get one of the jewels I'm actually low on instead of my 8th fire jewel.

Aside from Another Kaede I'm looking at what I can add or change about my team to help out Kaede. Every sub makes hearts except Vishnu, Parvati provides bind clear or burst, Verdandi helps with combo shields, and Vishnu keeps the greens flowing. Are there better non-Kaede subs then Verd x2, Vishnu, and Parvati? I feel like I'm not as strong as Myr but that may be due to her ideal team not required a handful of duplicates.
 
Kinnikuman collab incoming. :O

Also, Gift of the Holy Beasts gave me Meimei and a Wood Jewel on the first try. GungHo must've decided to throw me a bone.
 
Rolled another pack and only got Beach Lakshmi.

After selling all the silvers/troll golds. Noticed that I'm 100k mp short of buying Myr outright. Considering buying one more pack and selling it plus 1-3 GFE (spare Australis, L. Kali and maybe dupe pantheon gods) to buy her out right.

Anyone know of an ideal team?

I'm thinking

B!Myr (w/ Snow white or Awoken I&I inherit) / Beach Urd / Andromeda / Gabriel / Ryune (or Navi w/ Ryune/Urd inherit) / B!Myr.

Unfortunately lacking a sumire, sun quan, isis and orochi.
 

W-00

Member
Managed another pull last night: Fuu. Fuuuu-

Ah well, at least I'm almost done with the challenges. Just Indigo and Gran Reverse are left. And thanks to the daily stone and the Gift of the Holy Beasts, I already have enough stones for another pull. Think I'll save that for when I'm feeling luckier.

Speaking of Gift of the Holy Beasts, the game decided to be nice and send Leilan, since I needed a fire jewel. I would have been so annoyed if it had sent Karin - I already have FOURTEEN water jewels and almost nothing to use them on (right now, only Sakuya needs one, two more if I decide to wake my other Sakuya as well). But I can't get rid of any, because if I do and experience a drought later I'd be kicking myself.
 

Bladelaw

Member
Anyone want to run Tengu coop for skillups?

I can run later tonight. Probably skipping super kings today but I need tamas bad. Last godfest killed me a bit inside so I'm reluctant to stone for stamina. I'm looking to skill up my alt's Tengu but its only viable team at the moment is a Lucifer team.

I need a bunch of potential evo mats for the dupe Liu Bei's and Ishida. I'm still not sure if I'm keeping a dupe tsubaki (I'll decide to sell if I don't luck into Kenshin).

Is it worth having an awoken and non awoken Ceres? I rolled two last GF and I'm not sure it's worth both. Non awoken has a nice heal for Mzeus and awoken is a pretty great bind clear for Kaede. Given ALB's popularity though Mzeus is seeing a whole lot less use.
 
Is it worth having an awoken and non awoken Ceres? I rolled two last GF and I'm not sure it's worth both. Non awoken has a nice heal for Mzeus and awoken is a pretty great bind clear for Kaede. Given ALB's popularity though Mzeus is seeing a whole lot less use.

You could save a Ceres as we might get Ana! Ceres. The double killer, TPA, and SBR is pretty nice.
 

Jagernaut

Member
I can run later tonight. Probably skipping super kings today but I need tamas bad. Last godfest killed me a bit inside so I'm reluctant to stone for stamina. I'm looking to skill up my alt's Tengu but its only viable team at the moment is a Lucifer team.

I need a bunch of potential evo mats for the dupe Liu Bei's and Ishida. I'm still not sure if I'm keeping a dupe tsubaki (I'll decide to sell if I don't luck into Kenshin).

Is it worth having an awoken and non awoken Ceres? I rolled two last GF and I'm not sure it's worth both. Non awoken has a nice heal for Mzeus and awoken is a pretty great bind clear for Kaede. Given ALB's popularity though Mzeus is seeing a whole lot less use.

No need, I found a partner and ran it enough for 7 skillups. Only need 1 more. The plus eggs were a nice bonus.
 

J0dy77

Member
Smh I rolled the beach machine FIVE times and got FOUR of these awilda things and some pedo porn mess.

I just wanted something good 😥

I dumped everything into this past godfest knowing the beach REM is a huge trap. Are there really any cards worth chasing on the level of XM or Myr?
 

Bladelaw

Member
I dumped everything into this past godfest knowing the beach REM is a huge trap. Are there really any cards worth chasing on the level of XM or Myr?

Beach Myr is pretty great with an arguably better subpool then light Myr. Not worth the risk of chasing her though. Beach Claire is great for Pandora, Navi is an amazing sub for BMyr and Sumire, Goemon comes with an extra row and skill boost, Armadel is another ALB/Dios enhance option.

Really only Fuu and Kurone are terrible cards. B. Eschamali is a different flavor of Scheat which reduces her value but she's still incredible on You Yu, Sarasvati, and any other blue orb hungry lead. I'm guessing Navi is 4* to prevent inheritance. Otherwise her skill would show up in every heart cross team.
 

Quantum

Member
- I ended up buying Beach Myr to prevent me spending to roll her.

- saved a bunch I guess. I like the playstyle, really pretty easy to do mid range damage. I have a really strong blue group and didn't want to be bothered with making and skilling a myr.

- rolled a few times anyway - nothing great, but did get a navi and, go figure - a dupe bikinitron. Will save I guess for unevo art - but pretty useless (especially as a dupe).
 
I did it! She's 297 with a full rainbow resist. Now to continue skilling her up. Have a best freind slot to give as well. Looking for someone who will use Myr for the long haul. Back ups are Xian Mae(pentamaxed), Yomiragon(Pentmaxed)

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Jagernaut

Member
Max skilled Tengu today and after 2 Kurone pulls yesterday, I pulled a 3rd time and got Paradise Sonia. I don't have regular Green Sonia so this is fine.
 

J0dy77

Member
I did it! She's 297 with a full rainbow resist. Now to continue skilling her up. Have a best freind slot to give as well. Looking for someone who will use Myr for the long haul. Back ups are Xian Mae(pentamaxed), Yomiragon(Pentmaxed)

I'm in the same boat if we want to find a third for the triangle. I have Pentamaxed XM in slot 1 and leaving Myr who is almost pentamaxed with rainbow (for now) and only 4 skillups left.

Beach Myr is pretty great with an arguably better subpool then light Myr. Not worth the risk of chasing her though. Beach Claire is great for Pandora, Navi is an amazing sub for BMyr and Sumire, Goemon comes with an extra row and skill boost, Armadel is another ALB/Dios enhance option.

Really only Fuu and Kurone are terrible cards. B. Eschamali is a different flavor of Scheat which reduces her value but she's still incredible on You Yu, Sarasvati, and any other blue orb hungry lead. I'm guessing Navi is 4* to prevent inheritance. Otherwise her skill would show up in every heart cross team.

I didn't realize blue myr was possible from the REM, thought she was MP only. I would like claire but not going to chase, my luck on the US with collabs is pretty awful. Water is by far my weakest color, probably why I overlook it so much.

Edit: Damn you blade, sucked me and pulled silver. /sad
 

MiTYH

Member
Man, I have a problem with holding onto stones.

Finally got 5 today and spent it on my first pull with the PAD island - got Goddess of Beach Volley, Lakshmi.

Pretty happy with that actually!
 

Bladelaw

Member
I burned another roll on the Beach REM and got Beach Mei Mei. I'm ok with this. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with her but it's a unique board change so I'm sure i'll fins a use for it somewhere.

Currently I'm working on getting my Alt's Myr UUevo'ed. The struggle is real. Just for Sandalphon and Zera I need:

2 light
1 blue
1 dark
2 light Super Kings
4 Dark Super Kings
6 Devilits and 3 Angelits

Fortunately I took care of the other parts a while ago but damn it's tough to hold on to those evo mats on a limited box. I didn't have the stam to farm super kings enough yesterday to get enough of the appropriate colors. I'm still trying to get the light jewel from Gift of the Holy Beasts which has been a pile of suck.

Still it's where all my Shynpys and my 297 egg went to on that account and even at her first stage evo with trash subs she's wrecking things.
 

Jagernaut

Member
I burned another roll on the Beach REM and got Beach Mei Mei. I'm ok with this. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with her but it's a unique board change so I'm sure i'll fins a use for it somewhere.

Currently I'm working on getting my Alt's Myr UUevo'ed. The struggle is real. Just for Sandalphon and Zera I need:

2 light
1 blue
1 dark
2 light Super Kings
4 Dark Super Kings
6 Devilits and 3 Angelits

Fortunately I took care of the other parts a while ago but damn it's tough to hold on to those evo mats on a limited box. I didn't have the stam to farm super kings enough yesterday to get enough of the appropriate colors. I'm still trying to get the light jewel from Gift of the Holy Beasts which has been a pile of suck.

Still it's where all my Shynpys and my 297 egg went to on that account and even at her first stage evo with trash subs she's wrecking things.

According to puzzledragonx.com, 2nd ult Myr will be buffed to 7.7x atk and 1st ult Myr will be buffed to match the original 2nd ult's stats and awakenings. So you will get the +2 second movement time without gathering all of those mats.
 
Went and purged like all my collab fodder on JP since the meta seems to have permanently moved past the point where they could even see niche use, gained like 100 box space. Coupled with the free +80 boost to initial box space (and free +80 starting team cost) in this week's JP patch suddenly I have a lot of space
 

Bladelaw

Member
According to puzzledragonx.com, 2nd ult Myr will be buffed to 7.7x atk and 1st ult Myr will be buffed to match the original 2nd ult's stats and awakenings. So you will get the +2 second movement time without gathering all of those mats.

Well that settles that. I'm probably still going to UUevo more to complete it than for the minor HP/power increase. Plus I have all the core monsters, I just need the evo mats lol.
 

Lyrian

Member
I'll add onto that.

Also, apparently Green Odin is no longer the laughing stock of the PAD universe. On JP, his active is being buffed to cure 5 turns of bind and 5 turns of awakening binds. That spells a bad precedent for the future.

Further, Odin Dragon's active is being buffed to cure infinite turns of both normal and awakening binds.

Because, you know, those 99 turn awakening bind pre-emptives are going to be coming soon...
 

Bladelaw

Member
I'll add onto that.

Also, apparently Green Odin is no longer the laughing stock of the PAD universe. On JP, his active is being buffed to cure 5 turns of bind and 5 turns of awakening binds. That spells a bad precedent for the future.

Further, Odin Dragon's active is being buffed to cure infinite turns of both normal and awakening binds.

Because, you know, those 99 turn awakening bind pre-emptives are going to be coming soon...

Wow, glad I saved a Grodin. I still need to go through the pain of max skilling him but it'll be a little less painful knowing there's a solid use for him.
 
I'm in the process of moving, and can't self co-op or co-op in general. It's so weird how playing solo just feels wrong now.

I'm spending all my stones on beach rem. So far I've gotten 2 armadels, 2 Navi's, and Lakshmi. Not bad rolls so far. I'm going to look in to running Lakshmi when I get the chance to focus on PAD again. Want to see how she compares to Sumire. It'll be nice to not have to worry about the 5 match, hopefully the damage isn't too bad.
 

Lyrian

Member
Khepri Descended


AS: for one turn, +2 to combo count. For one turn, +2sec of orb move time
LS: 3x to blue as long as you never clear four or fewer orbs(?), 2x for 3 combo, 3x for 4 combo

Reddit claims the skills on the card are:


AS: Magic Chain - For 1 turn, 2 combos added to your final combo count. For 1 turn, add 2 seconds of extra matching time

LS: Water Att. ATK x5, but 3 or 4 orb matches will not be removed from board. ATK x2 when reaching 3 combos, ATK x3 when reaching 4 combos or more

One one hand, this is a 15x leader. On the other hand, you need a match-5 (any type) to count as a single combo and 4 match-5s in a single move to reach x15. That includes heart combos as well for healing. Very high risk/reward card.
 

linsivvi

Member
It will probably be abused and the absurb power creep will continue. All you need to do is to load the team with a bunch dual orb/board changers. The leader active skill can be used in emergency.

It will change the playstyle somewhat which is always a good thing.
 

Bladelaw

Member
So I used my newly acquired beach Mei Mei to see just how effective Orb Enhances can be on You Yu. I built a team solely for maximizing OE damage completely ignoring TPA/Row/SBR

You Yu
Nut (4)
Xmas Paulina (5)
Beach Mei Mei (5)
Acubens (4)
You Yu

A full activation (4 water combos, 14 orbs) using only 3 orb matches (plus the 5 for You Yu) with no skyfall had You Yu doing 10 million damage. The other subs numbers are unreliable as Acubens and Mei Mei weren't max level. I shudder to think if I pulled Beschamali what this would look like.

RE: Kheperi, As a row lead she'll slam anything you can burst your way through, but she's still a glass cannon. Maybe paired with Sumire/Skuld/I&I?

I see her value as an unbindable bind clear sub for characters who need high combos (Rukia especially) as her active and fingers really ease the skill requirement for full activation.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Finally all Sumires max skilled - did 7 runs, which netted 2 blue friots that resulted in the one missing skill up. Glad that im done with that.

I still want BMyr - but i cant justify her yet since i have working YY/Sumire teams and my Regular Myr team is quite solid. I still have one Pull for the Beach Gacha planned though...who knows lol.
 

Bladelaw

Member
Finally all Sumires max skilled - did 7 runs, which netted 2 blue friots that resulted in the one missing skill up. Glad that im done with that.

I still want BMyr - but i cant justify her yet since i have working YY/Sumire teams and my Regular Myr team is quite solid. I still have one Pull for the Beach Gacha planned though...who knows lol.

I wish you luck. I still need to finish off 3 Sumires and I'm working all day. Hopefully I can finish off two and just py the third.

EDIT: It looks like Star Justice drops tomorrow. Machine Athena when? I'll have a solid team for her.
MAth
Algedi
Australis
Spica
Avalon Drake/Star Justice (depending if we need bind clearing)

All the power of Mzeus with a slightly different restriction (machines). Sherospada might be useful as a shield or just inherit something (Indra, Susano, Raphael) to Algedi. Plenty of rows or TPAs to crack high def targets, 100% sbr with an ally, solid bind coverage or combo coverage. Dragon and God Killer options. When Spica's Uevos hit it'll be even better. I'm really excited about this. I'm not looking forward to clearing Mathena's dungeon but like Mzeus I just need one. Drake-->Mathena should be a great board for hitting insane HP targets.
 

Lyrian

Member
BvS/Batman collabs being refreshed in Japan (as seen on PDX). Significant buffs to most cards, even silvers.

Big winner is Armored Batman, who pretty much becomes Dark Kaede.

Only new card is a Batman Tamadra (a silver), which has to claim the crown of most overpowered silver card to date. 3 dark rows, 2 heart enhances, unbindable with bind clear, 1 skill boost. Skill: 3 turn heart skyfall, 1 turn haste - CD 7. The only real significant flaw is mediocre stats because it is a balanced card.
 

ccbfan

Member
The power creep has been pretty insane lately.

Myr and ALB have invalidated a majority of old top tier leads.

I have Tsubaki, the worst of the dragon leaders and it has already replace all leaders not mentioned above with her 50+x and soon to be 70+x and extremely easy to activate leader skill.

Sakura, Bastet, Shiva, Ra, Yomi, ect are pretty much obsolete. Even the 1st gen mp dragons except for chicken Ra are obsolete.
 

Bladelaw

Member
BvS/Batman collabs being refreshed in Japan (as seen on PDX). Significant buffs to most cards, even silvers.

Big winner is Armored Batman, who pretty much becomes Dark Kaede.

Only new card is a Batman Tamadra (a silver), which has to claim the crown of most overpowered silver card to date. 3 dark rows, 2 heart enhances, unbindable with bind clear, 1 skill boost. Skill: 3 turn heart skyfall, 1 turn haste - CD 7. The only real significant flaw is mediocre stats because it is a balanced card.

Plum and AnaXTyphon are pretty happy about that.
 

W-00

Member
Drew two more times in the Island REM. Got a second Navi (which I'm okay with since she's a good Sumire sub) and Chester. I am strongly considering selling Chester. Is there any reason I should keep him? Sure, he has a bunch of SBRs, but other than that he seems really useless.
 
Can this be overcome with a skill that extends time a la RaDra? The same way it replaces the -1 second gimmicks?
Still included. The description doesn't actually say badges fall under the restriction, but I would have to assume it does as well. Wonder if CTW gets gimped as well?
 

Bladelaw

Member
Drew two more times in the Island REM. Got a second Navi (which I'm okay with since she's a good Sumire sub) and Chester. I am strongly considering selling Chester. Is there any reason I should keep him? Sure, he has a bunch of SBRs, but other than that he seems really useless.

as an awakening stick for ALB when you need 100% SBR he's solid. Not much else use for him though unless you REALLY need 4 SBR. He's unique in that aspect so I'd keep him for that alone though.
New patch coming the 23rd. Not sure what's in it. Maybe Sarasvati ult? Machine Athena?
 

razterik

Member
Came out of retirement for a few days to support best beach girl:
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Also did some other thing:
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Haven't even tried cross heart meta, but they sure are cute! Now back to just logins.
 
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