Yeah, not spending 600k MP on one team though. If I was I'd wait for Xiang Mei.
Also Evoing RagDra looks like a nightmare.
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Yeah, not spending 600k MP on one team though. If I was I'd wait for Xiang Mei.
Also Evoing RagDra looks like a nightmare.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Hoping the NA godfest is worth rolling on, cause the JP one is almost completely useless for me
smbu2000
Member
You just need have one card with 2 SBRs. On my team I was using Indra for his 2 SBRs, but since I pulled GKali and I want to use her along with my Ragnarok Dragon I had to adjust my team since I still wanted to use A.Isis as she's my only bind healer. (My Isis also has Lum`s 9 turn 10k all enemy damage plus 1 turn delay skill)
My team was RaDra/Ragnarok/Maeda Keiji/Indra/A.Isis. now I've switched it up to RaDra/Ragnarok/GKali/A.Isis/A.Horus.
My team was lacking fire with the loss of Maeda Keiji so I had to get a fire card in there with 2 SBRs, so I used A.Horus. His skill is useful for the 2 seconds of extra time, but I also gave him Maeda Keiji's skill (board refresh with 1 turn haste). My light attack power is down, but I have more attack power with the other colors.
Also if anybody uses my YDs I've put Apocalypse's skill on both of them, iPhone and iPad. (Light/dark/heart board change with 1 turn haste). Rukia on my iPad has A.I&I's Rune Enhance.
I was thinking in the case of a team like
Ra Drag
D. Kali
D. Kali
Indra
A. Orochi
Ra Drag
Unless I'm missing something that's only 80% SBR. Swapping Muse for A. Orochi brings it up to 100% but at a non burst damage loss. Isis would certainly solve the problem but I'm missing her.
Ra Drag
D. Kali
D. Kali
Indra
A. Orochi
Ra Drag
Unless I'm missing something that's only 80% SBR. Swapping Muse for A. Orochi brings it up to 100% but at a non burst damage loss. Isis would certainly solve the problem but I'm missing her.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Solution: skill inherit A.Orochi onto something with SBR, assuming you can wait that long
I think the template team just writes off the missing SBR awakening as Arena RNG, but I'm not positive on that.
I think what I'll do is put Muse on the team for general purpose use (Descends, practice) and swap in Orochi when I feel plucky enough to take on Arena 2.
Assuming you can pull off activation when needed this team is super solid.
Ra Drag is seriously the Git Gud lead.
Yeah he is, the only sub I have for him is muse/orochi so I cannot buy him. I sold an lkali awhile back, but even if I had her still it wouldn't be worth it for me.
I'm just going to buy Yomi Dragon, good lead and important sub on Luci arena team.
If you need 100% SBR, you should be switching out Orochi. Muse is the better switch out since you have him. Isis would be ideal, but Muse is 90% of the way there. RaDra used to bet on 80% SBR with Orochi for Arena 2, but with skill inheritance it's a team that can always have 100% SBR. Put Orochi on one of your other cards once that system gets here.
For example, my default team is going to be RaDra (Genie or D. Kali Equip)/D.Kali/D.Kali/Isis(Orochi Equip)/A. Amaterasu (D.Kali/Genie Equip)/RaDra(God Boost Equip)
New standard RaDra Arena 2 team just bursts down the Kalis with a god boost equip like Muse rather than shielding damage with Indra. Hopefully you find something that can fill the W/G slot besides Muse, because I'd love a RaDra friend with a Muse equip, since don't have access to him or Kanna/Durga/Izanagi.
As for your A. Panda question, standard team is
A. Panda/Panda (UUevo)/Zuoh/Akechi/D. Vak/A. Panda.
The UUevo Panda is used to offset the loss of RCV from using Zuoh. I'm still not convinced that the extra 380 RCV is worth losing a Dark Row, the loss of 900 HP and the amazing haste on A. Panda's active, but it's the popular choice.
Actually I have durga. I had a second Muse but sold it for MP before skill inheritance was a thing.
I really miss 3x skill ups. She'd be max skilled at this point along with Indra, Anubis and Baal.
EDIT: What three leads should I keep in my friend slots? I don't want to hose anyone, specifically BF's. I have a
Hypered Rukia,
Hypered A. Bastet,
1/3 hyper Ra Drag,
A. Shiva,
AALuci,
A. Thor, and
A. Panda
The rest of my team slots are me playing with different builds. I've been keeping Rukia in slot 1 until the Bleach collab is over, slots 2 and three are usually A. Bastet and A. Shiva.
I've been thinking of dropping Bastet and swapping with Ra Drag but if people are using her I'd probably swap out Rukia (I use her enough to farm anyway)
I really miss 3x skill ups. She'd be max skilled at this point along with Indra, Anubis and Baal.
EDIT: What three leads should I keep in my friend slots? I don't want to hose anyone, specifically BF's. I have a
Hypered Rukia,
Hypered A. Bastet,
1/3 hyper Ra Drag,
A. Shiva,
AALuci,
A. Thor, and
A. Panda
The rest of my team slots are me playing with different builds. I've been keeping Rukia in slot 1 until the Bleach collab is over, slots 2 and three are usually A. Bastet and A. Shiva.
I've been thinking of dropping Bastet and swapping with Ra Drag but if people are using her I'd probably swap out Rukia (I use her enough to farm anyway)
Muse is the ideal RaDra god boost equip because he offers 2.5x over 2.0x. I'm not sure if 2x would do as well but you could certainly get the Kalis to the point where they won't 1-shot you without a shield.
The 'ideal' RaDra team is in real disarray since the skill equip system. There's a lot of variance now. I'd say the ideal template looks like this.
RaDra/D.Kali/D.Kali (Or D. Kali like)/Flex/Flex/RaDra with some combination of Dark Damage Nullification, Menace and God Boost skill equips. The team I've seen that seems like the most crazy powerful is.
RaDra (Muse)/D Kali (Ichigo)/Ragnarok Dragon (Ichigo)/D. Kali (Lightning)/New Years Ama (Orochi)/RaDra (Genie/Fencer)
But that team is crazy to put together for obvious reasons and overkill in general.
As for your BFF slot, I personally would love another RaDra best friend and I don't use A. Bastet right now, so that'd be my pick obviously.
I'm probably going to put Santa Genie on my Ra Dragon, so you could easily use his. Raphael would work as well. The key is to counter both Ilsix's -99% Gravity and DD Hera's preemptive. Raphael's 100% would do that just as well as Genie. I'm not sure if Indra would save you enough damage to survive both the gravity and preempt.
On dzy's stream yesterday he said that muse and the rest of that series are getting buffed to 3x. Power creep indeed.
Brian Griffin
Member
He'd be a decent Thoria sub. I really wanted him for a while and then ended up pulling a second Saria. She's a bit better, especially since I have an almost hypermax minivalk, so I don't need him anymore.
FUBAR McDangles
Member
Got a new phone today, had to trade in my old one as part of the deal. Initiated a device transfer, wrote down user info and the transfer code it gave me.
Tried to input the code just now and its not working. Tried to use the google account migration and it says im an invalid user.
What should i do fellas?
EDIT: Nevermind. On probably the 9th try it finally went through. Thank goodness.
Tried to input the code just now and its not working. Tried to use the google account migration and it says im an invalid user.
What should i do fellas?
EDIT: Nevermind. On probably the 9th try it finally went through. Thank goodness.
Little Green Yoda
Member
10x Kanetsugu. All day. Every day.
Guess I don't have to go crazy on Sowilo tomorrow and can focus on getting the lits I need for my ult evos.
Guess I don't have to go crazy on Sowilo tomorrow and can focus on getting the lits I need for my ult evos.
Yep that will be nice, but I will definitely not stone much this time. That being said I should easily be able to finish of my important dark cards.
So I will start on either light or blue cards next. My good subs for each, not including farmables:
Blue - i&i, Karin, bvalk, orochi, mori, nut, muse, and 2 gabriels.
Light - Saria, kanna, chibi valk, dqxq, wukong, apocalypse, ariel, rei sirius, pollux, sakuya, and ny sandalphon.
Seems I have the making for a decent Saria and i&i team and I eventually want a good team for each color. Which color do you think I should focus on first?
I'm leaning towards light.
Holy shit I didn't notice that huge challenge descended for this event and thought it's just a regular set of 10 challenge dungeons.
This will be glorious.
Dr_LawyerCop
Member
Yeah, not a good GF for me either. There's a couple wanted cards, but a lot of dupes that would not be useful at all. I'll probably still roll 2 or 3 times because I didn't spend many stones last 10x as I thought I would, and probably won't stone much this time. I'll yolo the DC REM, but I don't think there's anything in there I actually need.
Still need to level some subs as well as awakening my 2nd. Yamato but the dmg potential of that team is already nice. Especially after Urd + CaoCao active. Low HP and no 100%sbr are an issue though.
You are right - the sub situation with XM seems a bit more forgiving compared to Plum. Just dont like the trend from XM --> to plum with the quite restrictive subs already...i can feel that GungHo will screw the Wood version of that MP group again. Then again if their goal is for whales to spend enough for multiple 300k units i dont see them changing their approach.
I would get XM as well if i had a 2nd Gadius and/or Uriel. Fire seems to have gotten another great addition after Shiva Dragon. Wish they would spread the love a little bit more.
Dont forget to post your XM impressions once you have the team up and running.
True - this couples with Heavens Gala and upcoming PCGF means i wont be pulling this time either. I would love to finally get Ceres or some of the better GFE...but risk for crap is too high.
You are right - the sub situation with XM seems a bit more forgiving compared to Plum. Just dont like the trend from XM --> to plum with the quite restrictive subs already...i can feel that GungHo will screw the Wood version of that MP group again. Then again if their goal is for whales to spend enough for multiple 300k units i dont see them changing their approach.
I would get XM as well if i had a 2nd Gadius and/or Uriel. Fire seems to have gotten another great addition after Shiva Dragon. Wish they would spread the love a little bit more.
Dont forget to post your XM impressions once you have the team up and running.
True - this couples with Heavens Gala and upcoming PCGF means i wont be pulling this time either. I would love to finally get Ceres or some of the better GFE...but risk for crap is too high.
Pretty sure he stopped playing the game months ago - probably too time consuming in addition to Granblue and other games he was playing.
Awesome - congrats man !!
So I banged my head against the Scarlet Challenge and would have made it if DQ Hera hadn't showed up. My AALuci team was 100hp shy of tanking her preemptive. That feeling is just the worst.
I'll try again after a few +HP eggs. I need to burn a fair few skills getting there which has me nervous but I should be able to handle Scarlet if I can get to her.
What teams are people throwing at this? My Shiva team got stuck at Kraken, Panda got stuck at Armadel, A. Haku couldn't clear the devils.
Should I try Thoria?
This was painful. 2 +eggs and I would have survived.
I'll try again after a few +HP eggs. I need to burn a fair few skills getting there which has me nervous but I should be able to handle Scarlet if I can get to her.
What teams are people throwing at this? My Shiva team got stuck at Kraken, Panda got stuck at Armadel, A. Haku couldn't clear the devils.
Should I try Thoria?
This was painful. 2 +eggs and I would have survived.
ActStriker
Member
For some reason I keep fucking up against Zeus Vulcan.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
If you're okay with farming and skilling up Menace again go for it, but I suspect the healer girls are due for reincarnations sometime in the near future.
With reincarnation evolution you never know. It's only a matter of time the healer girls will get an upgrade though so I'd wait until at least a few months.
Little Green Yoda
Member
Cool, another Gadius friend. I'll join the party once I can scrounge up another red fruit. Went 0/8 yesterday on trifruits and only picked up one from 30 PAL rolls. :/
Should be able to finish 297ing him and a holder for Orchid this week. After that, not sure if I should invest more +eggs in red units to get my Tsubaki team off the ground.
So I spent a couple hours last night playing with Ra Dragon in Endless trying to get better with the rainbow match. I'm not 100% happy with my activation rate but it's getting better. Ichigo's active is a huge crutch for me. He'll definitely be equipped on someone as soon as it's possible. It's really satisfying to see a light 2-prong at x360 on Ra Drag after a Muse boost.
Folks used to rainbow leads, what can I do to get better at activating? Do you just accept that some boards aren't giving a full activation even if the orbs are there? I like the challenge of having to solve everything but man sometimes I feel like I'm staring into the abyss as I'm trying to figure out the board.
Folks used to rainbow leads, what can I do to get better at activating? Do you just accept that some boards aren't giving a full activation even if the orbs are there? I like the challenge of having to solve everything but man sometimes I feel like I'm staring into the abyss as I'm trying to figure out the board.
Not a radra user, but for the game specifically just being able to recognize when you can stall and when you need to burst helps a lot. Also knowing your rcv and what you get for heal orbs allows you to run the best.
I have played a decent amount of rainbow leads since I have started, and run some sakuya at times which plays somewhat similarly (no stat boosts) obviously activation read and team comos are different.
George Claw M.D.
Member
You get used to it with practice. I've played rainbow for a long time, going from Sakuya to L.Kali to A.Ra to RaDra. Still not anywhere near top players in speed though, which is what really counts for hard boards where matches are so far apart. That's where time extends and actives help. RaDra teams usually have several seconds of time extends and if a board is really tough you can pop a RaDra active for that extra 5 seconds. Experience will help you recognize when a board may be too tough to solve with the extra time.
Jonsoncao
Banned
After playing RaDra for months, and my activation rate is fairly high right now for him (avg 7-9 combo w/o skyfall w/ 6 colors, but I need some time to learn the board). Initially I even had trouble activating all 5 colors, since I never had Ra, and I used to play AShiva a lot.
Besides practice, my own suggestion would be switching your thinking on comboing. For RaDra, the most important thing IMHO is to visualize what the board looks like AFTER you finished your move leaving no empty (wasted) space. Then just practice to move the board to the way you visualized it to be.
Wasting no spaces is one of the key. An ideal starting template for left half board would be
XXX
YAB
YAB
YAB
YPPPP
Y stands for yellow, P stands for purple. X, A, B are colors other than yellow and purple.
I have not posted in a while because i'm pissed at the game, more at myself for the moment
I was thinking about buying Xiang Mei, because i have 2 Gadius and a kiriko. I dont have Uriel but I do have other healer orb changers.
When I checked my box I noticed my Kiriko was missing, I think i must have sold or feed it away by accident thinking it was Zhu Bajie.
I was thinking about buying Xiang Mei, because i have 2 Gadius and a kiriko. I dont have Uriel but I do have other healer orb changers.
When I checked my box I noticed my Kiriko was missing, I think i must have sold or feed it away by accident thinking it was Zhu Bajie.
It may have been mentioned in here already, but groove coaster at 3x exp on the universal level will keep leveling you up too about 400. I just did it for an hour and never had to use a stone. In fact there was a couple times where the next run would level me and I still had 100+ stam, so I would run one of the challenge descends before doing it again.
It's tedious, but I am only twenty some odd levels from 400. So I will run it again sometime this week to get that extra team spot.
It's tedious, but I am only twenty some odd levels from 400. So I will run it again sometime this week to get that extra team spot.
Dude, that part was painful. It took me so many super kings to max three Ares. And after an hour of this I had so many skill ups. Would of been so much better if this had been around.
If any of you have an Ares, skill him up on the groove coaster. I lost millions of exp feeding mine super kings.
Edit: just devolved Cao Cao and changed him to r/d, now he is a great sub on Shiva Dragon with Dragon killer and another row. Makes my no dupes team better. I really like that they made the shitty uvos better with this patch.
I'm even debating devolving my awoken shiva to his r/d form so he can go on Shiva Dragon and he has a god killer. I only use him randomly for fun anyway.
http://m.imgur.com/anDvJg8
Stayed up for her, looks like I was a little off for plusses on the fodder. But I'm very happy, easy to fix quickly this event.
Stayed up for her, looks like I was a little off for plusses on the fodder. But I'm very happy, easy to fix quickly this event.
Dr_LawyerCop
Member
Planned to roll a couple today, maybe more tomorrow. Got on a nice streak and rolled 4 times:
Rodin (NEW!)
Liu Bei (dupe)
Apollo (dupe)
Lu Bu (dupe)
Rodin was a huge get! I'd eventually start to build a push button team, and it seems like he's always needed. Probably use all my flampys on goemon and him. Apollo dupe is awesome, since mine is max skilled and now I can try his awoken version.
Rodin (NEW!)
Liu Bei (dupe)
Apollo (dupe)
Lu Bu (dupe)
Rodin was a huge get! I'd eventually start to build a push button team, and it seems like he's always needed. Probably use all my flampys on goemon and him. Apollo dupe is awesome, since mine is max skilled and now I can try his awoken version.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
llm, Australis, troll gold. Quite satisfied
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSMRvhcUSjQ
Xin Hua system team in action.
Hint: it's shit.
Her teams are awful and the Arena clears so far have been painful to watch. Even loaded with the best skill inheritance, it's just stalling for days and no consistent damage output.
I think GungHo didn't realize how far they overshot with Xiang Mei and scaled back Xin Hua afterwards. She really needs a buff or some serious sub help.
Made three JP Godfest pulls, all terrible and not Gadius. Need a good Godfest to roll in.
Completely forgot to get last skill up on Set from fire carnival yesterday. Whoops. Not that I use him at all anyway. 10x tag killing coin dungeon plus eggs has sucked most of my enthusiasm for this event. Hard to go back to "slow" farming Kanetsugu after Tengu, especially when I have to adjust every time a jewel invades.
For those interested, the 1.5x boost on Rare Monster Infestation today should give the jewels somewhere around 80% chance to drop at 99 stamina. Maybe it's less, but I've had decent results with it in JP now. Still not as good as farming dark/light/green from the rogue dungeons in current Descend Challenge, though.
Xin Hua system team in action.
Hint: it's shit.
Her teams are awful and the Arena clears so far have been painful to watch. Even loaded with the best skill inheritance, it's just stalling for days and no consistent damage output.
I think GungHo didn't realize how far they overshot with Xiang Mei and scaled back Xin Hua afterwards. She really needs a buff or some serious sub help.
Made three JP Godfest pulls, all terrible and not Gadius. Need a good Godfest to roll in.
Completely forgot to get last skill up on Set from fire carnival yesterday. Whoops. Not that I use him at all anyway. 10x tag killing coin dungeon plus eggs has sucked most of my enthusiasm for this event. Hard to go back to "slow" farming Kanetsugu after Tengu, especially when I have to adjust every time a jewel invades.
For those interested, the 1.5x boost on Rare Monster Infestation today should give the jewels somewhere around 80% chance to drop at 99 stamina. Maybe it's less, but I've had decent results with it in JP now. Still not as good as farming dark/light/green from the rogue dungeons in current Descend Challenge, though.