Have you completed stage 2 of your gambit and when are we getting the receipts.
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Quarantine Mafia |OT| The Contagion is spreading.
- Thread starter Dusk Soldier
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Have you completed stage 2 of your gambit and when are we getting the receipts.
Ok. Before you go, how did you know about the vaccines?
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This is the 'Recovery' ability. It's exactly the same, just not copied word for word.
Bits and pieces of his scum information had already been proposed in the thread. It was just a matter of putting it together.
What, you miss the 'I think' and the 'or only level 2's can infect or kill'?
Okay.
So that means CCS wasn't making stuff up. But could scum try to boldly claim a role based on scum power?
I didn't
You're making an empty claim with info that is in the OP or stuff I made up.
Is it not suspicious that you are essentially pulling a claim from thin air?
Now you're backpedaling?
It is very very possible on day one CCS was a level 1 infected.
It's not out of thin air, it's out of being infected and cured.
It's not out of thin air, it's out of being infected and cured.
Not yet. Soon
Hey if they're trying to pull this shit, I want to make it perfectly clear what A > B > C means after I flip
It doesn't mean he was level 1 yesterday. Maybe level 2 also has that ability. We can't say for certain.
So, why did I needed to do all this shit? I was one of the most trusted town day one. Sawneeks, Swamped, Kawl, Faddy, Melon and I don't remember if someone else had me in their town list. Why would I do this? Fat4all wasn't in trouble also. There was no need for me to do this.
So the araxometer doesn't necessarily have to reach 10? Was there any mention of the araxometer?
No mention at all.
melonrabbit
Member
Okay. Okay. Just so I'm understanding the sequence of events I went back and reread things:
-- Fran and Fat4all are masons.
-- Overnight Fat4all is infected. He is no longer in their chat.
-- Fran realizes Fat4all is (likely) infected and comments that he has to hear from someone to confirm things:
Doggo comments, though not directly with this:
-- Fran then uses injection command to presumably cure the doggo. Dusk at least confirms the command was received (potentially more at end of day involving the meter? Unclear for the moment.)
-- End scene
So, Fran should have been the only one to know that Fat4all was infected since it was random?
Maybe its nothing but upon review it seems weird for Acohrs to imply that Fat4all might be unwell before anyone had any idea that Fran was referring to him. The comment seems off to me...
-- Fran and Fat4all are masons.
-- Overnight Fat4all is infected. He is no longer in their chat.
-- Fran realizes Fat4all is (likely) infected and comments that he has to hear from someone to confirm things:
Doggo comments, though not directly with this:
-- Fran then uses injection command to presumably cure the doggo. Dusk at least confirms the command was received (potentially more at end of day involving the meter? Unclear for the moment.)
-- End scene
So, Fran should have been the only one to know that Fat4all was infected since it was random?
Maybe its nothing but upon review it seems weird for Acohrs to imply that Fat4all might be unwell before anyone had any idea that Fran was referring to him. The comment seems off to me...
I don't think I ever answered this. It's a conundrum because they're all fairly good targets for scum whether it be infections or kills.
I don't know that it makes them more likely to be scum than Kark. First off being a mutant it would make sense to share traits with infected. Now where I think CCS as scum breaks down is the araxometer. It read 1 D1 and now reads 2 D2. What this means is either it counts the total number of infected regardless of their state or it counts ONLY level 2 infected. So either you think we have yourself as cured and the initial level 2 infected from D1 remaining or we have CCS and another as level 2 while you and another were infected today. I'm more inclined to believe the first than the second since we didn't see anyone die.
How does his claim in any way relate to you? Everything they said can be true regardless of your alignment. You're just blindly throwing shit out there at this point.
I just want you to know that their alignment isn't really predictive of you flip for me, or vice versa.
I'm curious about one point though. Fran, was it possible to use the command in mason chat only or did you use it in thread to give credence to your information?
If the Araxometer goes back to 1 after this day ends, then that most likely confirms that araxometer counts only the number of infected. If it stays 2, it might count the number of level 2 infections. For now we can't say for sure. CCS could have been level 2 infected from the start, though.
So you really think it's likely that I flip town but also guessed the infection mechanics exactly the way it would convenience their claim?
Indeed, the random attacks/infections is still unproven, just a possibility.
Also, I'm not assuming about the scum chat, my message said very clearly that I did not have access to scum chat.
It could go either way. We'll know when the first lvl 2 gets incinerated.
melonrabbit
Member
Even if we assume it was deliberate and not random acohrs's comment remains out of place and seems to suggest knowledge he shouldn't have.
I asked Dusk that when I was waiting for confirmation from Fat4all. If I use it during the day phase I have to input the command in the main chat. If I use it during the night I can PM or post it in the mason's chat.
I don't understand how you guessed the infection mechanics exactly at this point. You said that the infections grow exponentially and we don't have a clue about that.
You only guessed the part that a level 1 can't participate in the scum chat, and that's in the opening post.
Well, acohrs did do something similar in pop mafia, with him trying to indirectly ask poison target if they were poisoned. Hmmh.
Alright then lets actually address this.
1) He never said this. Nothing has confirmed this.
2) You mean exactly as a bunch of us said? And lets not forget you're the one that was making the claims about being able to be cured at level 2 despite the access to scum chat which again is not even remotely something to consider.
3) Wow you did get this right.
I wonder what this could all add up to...
Perhaps it adds up to Kark as scum. Lets go on a journey shall we.
In this post you say you will infect a random person at night. That person will then kill someone of their choice. You think you'll be the target and thus need to be made director and cured by a cure you are "pretty confident is a thing in this game".
Then we have this. fat4all's claimed pm did not contain any such details. If he's just parroting your information (as he is the "perfect" choice for this as you later say) why would he not include the information about how he'll become level 2 and randomly recruit?
Then of course there's this gem. You explicitly quote the word vaccine. Due to fran and fat4all we have confirmation that despite logically it not being the most sensible choice of words it is in fact the word used in this game. Where would you be reading this though? How would you be SO SURE there is a cure and even be able to properly name it?
Oh, right, that's because you are infected. You're not no level 1 scrub like our buddy fat4all was though. No, you were level 2 already on D1. A level 2 that knew how infections and kills would work. A level 2 that made his claim thinking he could not only suck up the director role but also convince someone to spend a vaccination shot on him. You knew it was risky though so you decided to give yourself some outs. You played it fast and loose. You contradicted yourself. You knew vaccinations were in the game because I would be that level 2 PM told you that you can no longer be saved by a vaccine. You tried to pull off a big gambit but unfortunately you only managed to get yourself killed. Then to make matters worse either through your choice or blind chance a town member got picked off as the next infected who would immediately get cured by our doctor. The only way this game continues in my mind is if the meter only counts level 2 scum at which case CCS might be a suspect after all. I mean he would have been in scum chat with Kark. Why not double down with your gambits at that point? We'll get to that if need be. For now..
VOTE: Karkador
Yeah I wasn't saying anything against your acohrs point. I actually find that interesting and will have to look through his posts some more. I just think there's a clearly defined zombie fish here to fry.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Thanks for the vote of confidence... the fires of the incinerator are not really my thing.
Autoclaves now that's cool, (well hot actually).
I'm still catching up since my do it gif... bear with me
Yeah, CCS's claim is in a new light now. It's obviously full of a lot of things only scum would know, but they would of had to of known that eventually the information would come out and put them in the spotlight for potentially being scum.
If they are a mutant townie, CCS probably released that information thinking 'Recover' was a fairly unique ability that they might of only had. After all, it's an ability that has no negative repercussions to release if you are town, as there's nothing scum can do to you.
Hmmm, I guess so. What we have to determine is if we can, or should, take a leap of faith with CCS and believe that's he's a powerful PR or label him scum. According to him, only by being lynched can he die, so, toss up time. How much does everyone trust CCS.
*Acohrs need not apply
There is only one thing confirmed so far: "INJECT:" was a valid command in the game.
That's it. It doesn't even mean it was a cure.
So you're not gonna question how fran and fat4all come forward with a story, bringing nothing new to the information table besides what they're picking and choosing from the flurry of false information flying around yesterday?
Let this post stand for the record. You're gonna have a very hard time explaining this when I'm gone.
You're right, there will be no direct conflict between my role and what they're claiming. But their entire claim hinges on me being actually being scum and actually having told the truth when I dumped all that 'info' about what Infected do. When my flip proves that premise false, they can coast on a false claim until actual infected flip.
If I guessed the infected rules right, I should be playing the lottery, not mafia.
It's simple. When you are gone we are going to know why you were after the vaccines. And if the Araxameter go back to 1 I had a cure.
Were you really? Because in case you forgot, we had a vote for a Director, and even I got more votes than you.
There is no relation between our claim and you being scum. You could be neutral easily. The only thing for certain is that you, or some partner of you knew about the vaccines. We will know that when you flip.
Actually, no. Our claim has nothing to do with how you played the early game. If you had said nothing day 1 and I still got infected, fran would of cured me and I would of said exactly the same things.
You're the only one to blame for how you played day 1 and how other view you now.
So you're conceding that I'm not Infected?
You are forgeting that I decided I didn't wanted before even swamped proposed me. I was the first one that said I didn't wanted. Mostly for my role.