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[Explosive Zombie]

True, however they were his characters and he had no trouble letting people do whatever they wanted with them.

Why James Cameron's Original Terminator 3 Never Happened

The cast of T2 was ready to return for Cameron's Terminator 3.

screenrant.com

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Why James Cameron's Original Terminator 3 Never Happened

The cast of T2 was ready to return for Cameron's Terminator 3.

screenrant.com

"In late 1997, deep into post-production on Titanic and still angry about Vajna and Kassar buying the Terminator 3 rights, Cameron finally decided that he wanted nothing more to do with the movie. Fox was still willing to buy the rights, whether by outbidding Vajna and Kassar or buying the rights from them, but Cameron losing interest was the final nail in the coffin for Fox's Terminator 3. Quoted in a Variety article at the time, Mechanic said, "Right now Jim (Cameron) has decided not to make this movie, and we have always said we will only make it with Jim." Cameron did give his blessing for Schwarzenegger to work on a sequel without him, and Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines was eventually released in summer 2003. "

That's called ego fam.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

"In late 1997, deep into post-production on Titanic and still angry about Vajna and Kassar buying the Terminator 3 rights, Cameron finally decided that he wanted nothing more to do with the movie. Fox was still willing to buy the rights, whether by outbidding Vajna and Kassar or buying the rights from them, but Cameron losing interest was the final nail in the coffin for Fox's Terminator 3. Quoted in a Variety article at the time, Mechanic said, "Right now Jim (Cameron) has decided not to make this movie, and we have always said we will only make it with Jim." Cameron did give his blessing for Schwarzenegger to work on a sequel without him, and Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines was eventually released in summer 2003. "

That's called ego fam.

Not seeing the point. They didn't retcon 2 because Cameron wanted them to.

 

[V4skunk]

Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles delves into this idea heavily, with both sides sending troops back for multiple objectives, including the resistance hiding a time machine in a bank when it was built, should any mission go wrong and they needed to jump to a different time for a do over or to lose their pursuers.

It's also bloody brilliant, and the only good Terminator fiction after the first 2 movies. Ends on a cliffhanger due to cancellation though, sadly.

Big mistake cancelling this series. It was fucking amazing. SCC is better than all of the films outside of the original two. Salvation was also ok though.

 

[Super Mario]

i've enjoyed all the Terminator movies tbh. it's silly how butthurt people get over these movies.

i think it's quite unreasonable to demand they all fit into this wonderful coherent narrative when the very first movie has retcons as part of the main plot. if you look at them as b-movies, which is what they are, it's fine. they are excuses to see killer robots and revisit the classic themes. time travel. fear of machines. the heroism of fighting for the human spirit in the face of an ever-more increasingly robotic future.

which, at it's heart, is the classic monster movie trope: a woman escaping a relentless killer. tbh the "lore" story/plot is secondary for me, all i need is that killer robot chasing a good guy and i'm in.

so really i've enjoyed every one of these movies, and am glad they keep making them. they each have their own style, which kind of gives it all a multiverse feel. this is why things like "I'll be back" and all the standard Terminator tropes don't mind me, they are the glue holding the series together across all these alternate realities. at the center of that is Arnold. someday when Arnold dies everyone will be glad that he pops up in all of these.

people need to in general chill the fuck out w the nerdism about lore and storylines and all that. just learn to appreciate a killer time travelling robot movie without it having to match up to what is the best action film of the past 30 years.

I agree. I hate that the internet has to tear apart every movie. Of course you can poke holes. If SkyNet could time travel, would couldn't they have just sent entire armies into the past to destroy their enemies? Hell, go back and attack Conner with an army of upgraded terminators.

With that said, we have a franchise that is decades old and is telling us a fun story. We've also seen the rise of machines to evolve into things much beyond their original design. It's not perfect, but I've had a fun time

 

[sol_bad]

I'm still not sure if Tim Miller was just trolling everyone. So much Girl Power talk before the movie came out and then they can't get shit done and have to be saved by Arnold

I mean it's no different than Cameron talking up Sarah Hamilton in T2 and then the T800 saves the day.

*EDIT*
LOL
I mean Linda Conner.
HAH
Linda Hamilton

 

[Rentahamster]

So can someone explain the Terminator storyline to me

How does Kyle Reese (John Connor is already alive in the future) go back in time to become John Connor's dad? It doesn't really make sense to me. It feels like a time paradox.

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