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Exactly, woke ass nerds too woke to be woke.
Crawl out the bed like
Normal people are just like what the fuck is going on.
Please don't speak as if you're one of them.Normal people are just like what the fuck is going on.
How many films and projects have to fail before you admit this isn’t true.Only crazy people with agendas look for, promote and get angry at these comments. Majority of film viewers don't even know who directors and producers are, all they know are the actors and the trailers they see. My family, my friends in Australia, my friends in the Philippines, none of them take notice of directors or producers.
Out of everyone I know, only 3-4 people take note of who the creators of movies are.
And again, I say, he wasn't attacking anyone in the fan base, he was just commenting on what he has noticed online. A vocal minority who are misogynists. No one saw these films because they simply weren't interested, not because of anything "woke". There are equal number of "none woke" movies that are failing at the box office too but you don't see a thread about that on these forums.
Agenda pushing.
And what makes someone a “misogynistic troll”. According to Tim Miller, anyone not excited for this flopThe director said misogynistic internet trolls. He didn't say all men. Why would all man scifi fans get upset by that?
How many films and projects have to fail before you admit this isn’t true.
It’s interesting to me that when. Woke film does well, it becuase of its politic is, and when they fail, it’s in spite of it.
Did you see my post on the first page about none woke films failing?
Ford V Ferrari, Midway, Gemini Man, Doctor Sleep.
Not as bad as Terminator or Charlie's Angels but they are still failing.
Ford V Ferrari had a 100 million budget, currently sitting at 108 million box office. Not making much money on the international market, might end with about 130-140 million box office. That's still a failure.
Midway also has a 100 million budget and not making much on the international market. Sitting at 93 million box office. Failure.
Doctor Sleep, 55 million budget and sitting at 63 million box office, not making much money internationally. Failure.
Gemini Man, lets not even go there.
What's funny about the wokeness issue with Charlie's Angels, is that the title itself is not woke. I mean the women are reduced to being the attractive objects (i.e., angels) that belong to a man, Charlie.
All unknown name movies. Hardly comparable.
Do ya research bra.
Ella Ballinska is British/Polish/Jamaican.
Naomi Scott is British/Ugandan.
Or is that meant to be part of the joke? Getting their backgrounds wrong?
He talks about misogynistic men who don't like the movie because the main characters are women. He doesn't talk about all men.And what makes someone a “misogynistic troll”. According to Tim Miller, anyone not excited for this flop
All unknown name movies. Hardly comparable.
So people are just supposed to know about every Big Willy movie or some random sequel to a 40 year old horror movie? Yeah, just pump em out. 0 marketing. People will still know.Doctor Sleep is a sequel to THE SHINING, and Gemini Man has WILL SMITH as the lead. But yes, other than that they're totally obscure titles.....
So people are just supposed to know about every Big Willy movie or some random sequel to a 40 year old horror movie? Yeah, just pump em out. 0 marketing. People will still know.
Even I know about Gemini Man though. Still a movie nobody gives a fuck about.
It's because they market the fuck out of woke movies. If they're marketing that heavily and it fails that's pathetic. If something like Gemini Man or FVF fails who cares? They didn't care enough to market them in the first place. What's the non woke version of something like SW, marvel movies, charlize's angels, etc? Dwayne Johnson movies?Funny how when it's a "none woke" movie the excuse is "nobody gives a fuck" but when it's a "woke" movie it's "suck shit, it failed because it's woke".
Doesn't change the fact that they are failing and if the "anti-woke" brigade really cared about movies they'd be out there supporting the flicks I mentioned. But they aren't.
Doctor Sleep is a sequel to THE SHINING, and Gemini Man has WILL SMITH as the lead. But yes, other than that they're totally obscure titles.....
It's not as black vs white as u want it to be to draw simplistic answers out of it.
Your telling me that it's not as "black and white" as I want it to be?
Me? Who sees 2-4 movies a week at the cinemas and who doesn't give a shit if a movie is labeled as woke or not?
You're the one who won't see a film that has been labeled woke by you fellow cronies. You can't even see a film and form your own opinion. It's very black and white to you.
Ford v Ferrari and Midway didn’t fail. Those both did above expectations.Did you see my post on the first page about none woke films failing?
Ford V Ferrari, Midway, Gemini Man, Doctor Sleep.
Not as bad as Terminator or Charlie's Angels but they are still failing.
Ford V Ferrari had a 100 million budget, currently sitting at 108 million box office. Not making much money on the international market, might end with about 130-140 million box office. That's still a failure.
Midway also has a 100 million budget and not making much on the international market. Sitting at 93 million box office. Failure.
Doctor Sleep, 55 million budget and sitting at 63 million box office, not making much money internationally. Failure.
Gemini Man, lets not even go there.
How many people even know there was a sequel to the shiningDoctor Sleep is a sequel to THE SHINING, and Gemini Man has WILL SMITH as the lead. But yes, other than that they're totally obscure titles.....
Your telling me that it's not as "black and white" as I want it to be?
Me? Who sees 2-4 movies a week at the cinemas and who doesn't give a shit if a movie is labeled as woke or not?
You're the one who won't see a film that has been labeled woke by you fellow cronies. You can't even see a film and form your own opinion. It's very black and white to you.
What are you all on about with marketing those two movies? Doctor Sleep's trailers and posters made it very clear it was a sequel to The Shining (which aside from those living in rocks or are so young they're just learning multiplication everyone who is a movie fan should know is an iconic horror movie loved by many including quite a few who aren't even really horror fans), and Gemini Man put Will Smith, a very marketable start, front and center in the trailer since obviously he's the main focus of the movie. The trailers for both played before plenty of films I saw in 2019, and I see a shit ton of movies (for example, I saw 37 movies in 2018). So no, they were marketed just damn fine, and no they're not going to make fucking refrigerators for them, what an unfair comparison. The budget for these two films versus massive blockbusters are generally very different so there's no need to do shit like that.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Glass, Us, John Wick 3, Annabelle Comes Home, and It Chapter Two all made plenty of money. And yes, I can use all of these as counter examples since they aren't big-budget massive blockbuster movies and all had a budget under $100 million (christ, Us and Glass only had a budget of $20 million and were still massive successes) and didn't have any of their own refrigerators (LOL). And I love this absurd reality some of you are creating that your average person off the streets won't know about these movies or the people making them (yeah, Tarantino, Jordan Peele, anything with Stephen King's name on it, none of this will rings bells for anybody outside of super massive nerds, psssh) and yet these same average people SOMEHOW know about these interviews like the one the Terminator Dark Fate's director gave. That's a very interesting reality that is also super convenient for the flimsy argument some of you are pushing.
Also, geezus fucking Christ, Zato, people aren't assholes because they like Captain Marvel. Grow the fuck up. Also, I think within the superhero genre (which Aliens isn't a part of last time I checked) yes female leads is a big fucking deal. Last time I checked, most considered Supergirl, Catwoman, and Elektra to be bad films. So to finally have Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel grace the big screen in films that people loved and thought was okay based on their respective online audience scores is a godsend for the superhero genre. Christ, Warner Bros years ago claimed why we hadn't got a Wonder Woman movie yet was the character's origin was hard to do in a movie. BULL FUCKING SHIT, in 2009 there was a direct-to-video animated WW film that was only 70 minutes long and yet covered her origin, meeting Steve, going to the US, having Ares as the villain, and having a big battle at the end and all with reasonable pacing. And WB acts like it can't pull that shit off in a movie that will likely be 100-130 minutes long, what a joke. So no, considering the absolute trash we got before 2017 in terms of female-led superhero movies, I'd say Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel are a big deal for some people and that doesn't make them assholes.
Yeah your explanation is dumb as hell.I already explained why Captain Marvel was significant within the superhero genre (and especially the MCU which is the most prominent superhero franchise nowadays). Also, the Blade trilogy had a black lead, not a whole cast of mostly black actors like Black Panther did.
Yeah your explanation is dumb as hell.
It's because they market the fuck out of woke movies. If they're marketing that heavily and it fails that's pathetic. If something like Gemini Man or FVF fails who cares? They didn't care enough to market them in the first place. What's the non woke version of something like SW, marvel movies, charlize's angels, etc? Dwayne Johnson movies?
Show me the fucking Gemini Man refrigerators
No, claiming someone's explanation is dumb as hell without explaining why it's dumb as hell is actually what's dumb as hell, and also childish, and any debate judge would dock you major points for not knowing something as basic as that.
I'm sorry, are we having a debate?No, claiming someone's explanation is dumb as hell without explaining why it's dumb as hell is actually what's dumb as hell, and also childish, and any debate judge would dock you major points for not knowing something as basic as that.
That would mean something if I didn't know how much of a sycophant you are.
I'd just like to point out that this woke labeled film has doubled it's production budget at the box office and is turning out to be a great little success story.
Knives Out
www.boxofficemojo.com
Box office mojo says it's at about 83 million but other sources say it's at about 89 million.
Knives Out (2019) - Financial Information
Financial analysis of Knives Out (2019) including budget, domestic and international box office gross, DVD and Blu-ray sales reports, total earnings and profitability.m.the-numbers.com
How is it woke? Can you explain without spoiling? Because I haven’t seen it
Check the trailer thread out. Allegedly woke because the movie is big "fuck you" to Trump and his supporters.
wait, so according to you ford v Ferrari and midway are failures but knives out “is a huge success guys. Stay woke.”I'd just like to point out that this woke labeled film has doubled it's production budget at the box office and is turning out to be a great little success story.
Knives Out
www.boxofficemojo.com
Box office mojo says it's at about 83 million but other sources say it's at about 89 million.
Knives Out (2019) - Financial Information
Financial analysis of Knives Out (2019) including budget, domestic and international box office gross, DVD and Blu-ray sales reports, total earnings and profitability.m.the-numbers.com
wait, so according to you ford v Ferrari and midway are failures but knives out “is a huge success guys. Stay woke.”
Funny how that works
So we’ve gone from definite failures to “might be failures”ummmmm
Both Midway and Ford V Ferrarri had 100 million budgets not including advertising.
So Midway is definitely a failure as it's sitting at 108 million box office.
Ford V Ferrari might be making some profit now as it's sitting at 167 million box office, that all depends on what it's advertising budget was. If it is the usual "double the production budget" as had been mentioned for other films than it's still in the red and isn't making money.
No surprise there.The problem with Terminator is that it's the same movie done for the 4th time. When they do try something different see like Genisys, fans hate it. Maybe just let the franchise die.
Weekend Box Office Results: Frozen II Wows With $127 Million U.S. Take
Sequel scores third-best animated opening of all time. Plus, "A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood" and "21 Bridges" open modestly in the weekend of November 22-24.editorial.rottentomatoes.com
A $100 million goal means, however, that FvF will need an international haul of $150 million to break even between production and advertising costs.
So its sitting at 17 million profit right now. That's not very good. No studio wants 17 million profit from a 150 million production.
Ya, the story is always going to be humans vs robots, but how about make a future setting movie where it has to do with a big plan to figure out how to time travel back in time? Not so much about 1 on 1 CGI battles every 5 minutes. How about a movie where it's centered on Skynet AI, and it's realizing it's losing to humans and the writers come up with a way to show it's desperate and needs to do time travel stuff at the last minute with prototype Terminators to win the war.
Just anything different.
17-million profit and counting,
at least it's not losing 100-millions of dollars like your woke movies; Terminator and Charlies Angels
The unfortunate thing is that a movie set in the future will need a big budget and the last 3-4 Terminator films just haven't pulled in enough box office to make this feasible. Even Salvation didn't have enough budget, the film ends with a massive battle but all we see is a human vs robot fight in a factory that we have seen 3 previous times already.
It's still not enough of a profit to make Disney sit up and green light another production like this. The weekend just passed, the movie made 6.5 million domestically, next weekend it will make 2-4 million, the weekend after under 2 million. Internationally each country would have contributed less than 500,000 each this past weekend, most under 100,000. It might be lucky to hit 180 million.
Obviously my last prediction was way too low.
Hahaha you’re wrong AGAIN....FvF is already at 185M and still going strong
kristen stewart is objectively awful.
I think the only movie of hers that I enjoyed was Panic room.That's simply not true.
When she is in the right movie she is great. Just like Robert Pattinson.
Twilight really tarnished their reputations though.