“He looks at the film as a film.” Do you hear yourself?
I find it pretty telling that you consider a. Negative review “insulting” a movie. That explains a lot.
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Woke Hollywood gets burned by ‘Charlie’s Angels’ (and Terminator) box office bomb
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I find it pretty telling that you consider a. Negative review “insulting” a movie. That explains a lot.
sol_bad
Member
No
Stuckmann gave it a negative review but again, focused on the film at hand and not the bullshit politics. His review is not insulting at all.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
When you think Charlie's Angels, name one person on Earth that would picture the trio of heroines as this? lol
So he ignored the politics. Good for him and his fans.
That doesn't mean others have to ignore that as well. Oh let me guess. They aren't "looking at the film as a film."?
Winter John
Member
Your so busy attacking people on here you don't even realise your defending and attacking the same opinions.
"He looks at the film as a film. He doesn't bring up his own political beliefs and blah blah."
His opinion is exactly the same as my mine. The one you said doesn't matter.
Lol.
natjjohn
Member
Only glanced at topic, but don’t think “wokeness” is why either movie bombed. Just franchises that nobody was really asking for more of. Terminator has been run to the ground. When the last good one was released 28 years ago, hard to imagine a hit is coming unless was just oozing quality (which this one wasn’t on that kind of level). Also a near 200 million dollar budget was just a laughable move. Would have to just be a monster hit to churn a profit.
Charlie’s Angels as a franchise was again, one don’t think anybody was wanting. Not like the 00s reboot left people wanting more.
Charlie’s Angels as a franchise was again, one don’t think anybody was wanting. Not like the 00s reboot left people wanting more.
sol_bad
Member
What? You said you haven't seen the film, Stuckmann has.
Winter John
Member
I didn't need to see the film. Like most people I watched the trailer and realized it was shit.
sol_bad
Member
LMAO
You can have your opinion on the trailer, that's valid but a trailer and an actual film are very different.
Sometimes marketing fuck up the trailer and the film is great, sometimes marketing splice together an amazing trailer but the film sucks.
Winter John
Member
Sometimes they do, but this a low rent Charlie's Angels reboot starring who? and directed by some obsolete old bag. It's not David Lynch's latest opus. There's no subtle, hidden depths here that the marketing gurus weren't smart enough to pick up on. It's shit.
sol_bad
Member
Stop talking crap. I said your opinion doesn't matter because you haven't seen the film. It's a very simple concept to understand.
Winter John
Member
You sound very acephobic
Stiflers Mom
Banned
Almost all women I know hate that woke shit much more than even I do.
They want to see real men, doing men things.
Nothing I saw from this movie made me wanna see it.
And I am a fan of Elizabeth Banks. I really loved her in EVERY scene in every movie I have ever seen her in.
But when I see that lesbian hair cut heroine chic styled lead and those other two bland broads, I honestly feel repulsed.
It's just a perfect storm of uninteresting things coming together.
This movie simply has NOTHING going for it.
Also, I think Banks made some unfortunate comments, but that doesn't make the movie "woke" per say.
It's Charlies Angels. It's supposed to be hot girls kicking ass.
It's just that they forgot the "hot".
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VulcanRaven
Member
It had nothing to do with that. I don't think most people even knew about that and they wouldn't have even cared if they did. Only a small minority got upset about that. The movie failed at the box office because people aren't very interested about new Terminator movies. Genisys didn't do well either.I’m guessing it has something to do with this.
Tim Miller Says ‘Terminator: Dark Fate’ Will ‘Scare the F*ck’ Out of Misogynistic Internet Trolls
Mackenzie Davis, Linda Hamilton, and Natalia Reyes are front and center in Paramount's upcoming "Terminator" reboot.www.indiewire.com
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JimmyJones
Banned
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
This. The movies didn't bomb because they were "woke" they bombed because they were bad movies from washed up franchises.
lol, yea I'm not a fan of women trying to look boyish. I like women to look like women. They are plenty of women who have pulled off the pixie cut look such as harrie berry or jamie lee curtis in true lies. Kristen Stewart just doesn't have that It factor. isn't doing it for me
JimmyJones
Banned
Did Charlie end up being a woman in this?
lock2k
Banned
I agree. Some of them can pull it off, but Kristen Stewart looks like a cross between Chicken Little and Neil Patrick Harris lmao
GymWolf
Gold Member
Are you shitting me?Drew Barrymores Charlies Angels did well.
Maybe this new lot forgot to be sexy?
You have the fucking fish eyes stupid face stewart on this film...how much sexier a film can be??
Yoda
Member
I agree with you for Terminator, but there's no way the infused political messaging didn't harm Charle Angels. The director was heavily marketing the idea that this was a feminist empowerment movie. While that in and of itself isn't a bad thing, people go to see Charlie's Angels first to see badass girls kick ass. They don't go see it to have a virtual signaling director spoon feed her political beliefs to the audience. TLDR: they replaced what audiences want (action) with what the series use to not have (third wave feminism).
Lionel Richie
Member
I'm seeing Milo Yiannopoulos.
LegendOfKage
Member
Now I just find it humorous that you have an issue with her because you feel she's capable of better work, and I had an issue with you original post because I feel you're capable of better criticism. Thanks for the clarification, though. That's kind of funny.
lock2k
Banned
My god, it's perfect, way better comparison lol
kunonabi
Member
That's what I heard but I have no idea if it's true. Wouldnt surprise me though.
sol_bad
Member
during the end credits scene you see a womans arm but to me it comes across as something sinister. Bait for the next film. But since there is not going to be a sequel it doesn't matter and can be ignored. lol
who are in that "small minority"? Men who like sci-fi? Men who like the previous films in the franchise?
It seems pretty stupid to me to antagonize any "small minorty" when you are trying to sell a niche product.
sol_bad
Member
Only crazy people with agendas look for, promote and get angry at these comments. Majority of film viewers don't even know who directors and producers are, all they know are the actors and the trailers they see. My family, my friends in Australia, my friends in the Philippines, none of them take notice of directors or producers.
Out of everyone I know, only 3-4 people take note of who the creators of movies are.
And again, I say, he wasn't attacking anyone in the fan base, he was just commenting on what he has noticed online. A vocal minority who are misogynists. No one saw these films because they simply weren't interested, not because of anything "woke". There are equal number of "none woke" movies that are failing at the box office too but you don't see a thread about that on these forums.
Agenda pushing.
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RainblowDash
Gold Member
She compared her movie to Spider-Man, like she thought they were at all in the league lol
RainblowDash
Gold Member
Yep, those woke movies certainly are failing. The none woke films are doing gangbusters!!!
Jojo Rabbit - 14 million budget
Jojo Rabbit
www.boxofficemojo.com
Doctor Sleep - 55 million budget
Doctor Sleep
Ford v Ferrari - 100 million budget
Ford v Ferrari
Midway - 100 million budget
Midway
Rambo: Last Blood - 50 million budget
Rambo: Last Blood
oh
I guess the anti-woke brigade don't go to the theatres either.
I've seen 4 out of the 5 movies I listed and enjoyed them.
Have the directors of these movies come out on social media to blast whoever they blame for the flops? lol
sol_bad
Member
I wouldn't know, I don't follow Twitter or any social network platforms.
^_^
*EDIT*
I don't even follow any websites that indulge in twitter drama. I try to stick to sites that stick to news about the films themselves.
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RainblowDash
Gold Member
Drew Barrymores Charlies Angels did well.
Maybe this new lot forgot to be sexy?
Rememeber when it was religious conservatives who were bible thumping how sexiness was a sin?
Now it’s the ‘progressives’ who are essentially demanding that women to cover up...
Such a bizarre reversal......
Bigrx1
Banned
As much as I love woke culture being shit on, wasn't it the case that Terminator was falsely labeled as being affected by the woke masses?
Edit - nevermind I see it was just posted a few posts earlier the article that mentions it's wokeness. Well, glad to see 2 wokes smashed
Edit - nevermind I see it was just posted a few posts earlier the article that mentions it's wokeness. Well, glad to see 2 wokes smashed
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Bigrx1
Banned
You should take a gander at the Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB reviews for Dave Chapelle's Sticks and Stones special - loudly shit on heavily by THE WOKE yet there it sits with tens of thousands of super high user scores with endless 10's given by women also. I think in general THE WOKE is just this super super loud vocal internet minority that real world men and women both are fucking sick of.
Yakuzakazuya
Member
teacupcopter
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Charlie’s angels has always been about sexy women who are strong and kick arse. It was like that in the 70s, in the reboots, and now. There is a scale of wokeness and whole stuff like Gillette’s masculinity advert was on one end I don’t think it’s fair to include this one in it on that far end.
plus something that was far more overt in its feminist overtones was captain marvel and that made a billion dollars so it’s easy to pick and choose. Just like some will say “no one asked for Charlie’s angels” the excuses that get rolled out for captain marvel “oh it’s an MCU film” etc.
I think people in general get too up in arms over Hollywood being too woke or not woke enough. It’s ok to have nods to political issues in your films- it’s also ok not to. Just watch the movie. Even joker if you want to analyse it is a far more damning left wing critique of the US mental health system and how America treats its less fortunate in society. Like for a film that a bunch of left wing crusaders wanted to boycott ... and for a film trump screened in the White House- it’s quite radical. Side note how did trump screen it without getting the hypocrisy- he is the Thomas Wayne character! The one the films explicitly says is the cause of so many problems. He would openly mock someone like Arthur fleck. Ah well.
plus something that was far more overt in its feminist overtones was captain marvel and that made a billion dollars so it’s easy to pick and choose. Just like some will say “no one asked for Charlie’s angels” the excuses that get rolled out for captain marvel “oh it’s an MCU film” etc.
I think people in general get too up in arms over Hollywood being too woke or not woke enough. It’s ok to have nods to political issues in your films- it’s also ok not to. Just watch the movie. Even joker if you want to analyse it is a far more damning left wing critique of the US mental health system and how America treats its less fortunate in society. Like for a film that a bunch of left wing crusaders wanted to boycott ... and for a film trump screened in the White House- it’s quite radical. Side note how did trump screen it without getting the hypocrisy- he is the Thomas Wayne character! The one the films explicitly says is the cause of so many problems. He would openly mock someone like Arthur fleck. Ah well.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I enjoyed it. Kinda want to read the book now.
VulcanRaven
Member
The director said misogynistic internet trolls. He didn't say all men. Why would all man scifi fans get upset by that?
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highrider
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Also not wanting to see a shitty film is a simple concept to understand.
Papa
Banned
It's not that she's wrong, but she isn't really saying anything new either. Maybe I would take her parroting tweets more seriously if her profile pic wasn't a retarded twitch thot trifecta of down-angle selfie, duck-face and cleavage.
This post seems unnecessary and out of character
infinitys_7th
Member
When you think Charlie's Angels, name one person on Earth that would picture the trio of heroines as this? lol
Very diverse cast - a Hispanic, an African American, and a 12 year old boy.
sol_bad
Member
Do ya research bra.
Ella Ballinska is British/Polish/Jamaican.
Naomi Scott is British/Ugandan.
Or is that meant to be part of the joke? Getting their backgrounds wrong?
Vicetrailia
Member
Woke this woke that woke woke woke.
All of you guys on both sides sound obsessed and retarded. This is no way to live your triggered ass life.
Omg there's wokeness in termanator, omg there's misandry in termanator. Omg omg omg everyone is doing the same damn thing complaining about meaningless shit.
Watch termanator for the old reasons, if it has termanator in the fucking title. Don't read woke content.
Anti-woke still = woke
All of you guys on both sides sound obsessed and retarded. This is no way to live your triggered ass life.
Omg there's wokeness in termanator, omg there's misandry in termanator. Omg omg omg everyone is doing the same damn thing complaining about meaningless shit.
Watch termanator for the old reasons, if it has termanator in the fucking title. Don't read woke content.
Anti-woke still = woke
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