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[Rentahamster]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...semitic-party-in-hungary-discovers-hes-jewish

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/08/14/world/europe/ap-eu-hungary-rightists-roots.html?_r=1

BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) — As a rising star in Hungary's far-right Jobbik Party, Csanad Szegedi was notorious for his incendiary comments on Jews: He accused them of "buying up" the country, railed about the "Jewishness" of the political elite and claimed Jews were desecrating national symbols.

Then came a revelation that knocked him off his perch as ultra-nationalist standard-bearer: Szegedi himself is a Jew.

Following weeks of Internet rumors, Szegedi acknowledged in June that his grandparents on his mother's side were Jews — making him one too under Jewish law, even though he doesn't practice the faith. His grandmother was an Auschwitz survivor and his grandfather a veteran of forced labor camps.

http://www.jta.org/news/article/201...-trip-after-discovering-hes-jewish-rabbi-says

The Jewish Telegraphic Agency filed a report on the case earlier this week. According to the JTA, Szegedi met with Rabbi Shlomo Koves on Aug. 3.

Szegedi told him that following the Holocaust, his grandparents had an Orthodox Jewish wedding, but they decided to keep that and their religion a secret from their children and grandchildren.

The JTA reports that after talking to Koves, Szegedi decided to plan a trip to Auschwitz. Koves said he apologized "for any comments he had made against the Jewish community" and would like to make the trip to "pay his respects to the Holocaust martyrs."

 

[Davidion]

Whoops

 

[Curtisaur]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247199/

 

[Kad5]

Every damn time

 

[PhoenixDark]

 

[tapedeck]

Came to see this, leaving satisfied.

 

[cousins]

that self-hate

 

[opticalmace]

Came to see this, leaving satisfied.

Ditto.

 

[Horse Detective]

making him one too under Jewish law

wut

 

[markot]

wut

The Judaism is passed on through the women. So his mothers grandparents being Jewish = his mother being Jewish = Him being Jewish.

Not religously obv but ethnically (kinda)

 

[CF_Fighter]

Oh delicious, delicious irony. Love when these hatred filled individuals find out they actually are part of what they hate, homophobes, anti-semites, KKK members, etc.

 

[jerry1594]

The Judaism is passed on through the women. So his mothers grandparents being Jewish = his mother being Jewish = Him being Jewish.

Not religously obv but ethnically (kinda)

Even then wouldn't he be at least a bit genetically Jewish?

 

[Rentahamster]

Oh delicious, delicious irony. Love when these hatred filled individuals find out they actually are part of what they hate, homophobes, anti-semites, KKK members, etc.

Yep. Apparently there was an American Nazi who found out he was Jewish too, and then shot himself. Yeesh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Burros

Daniel "Dan" Burros (March 5, 1937 — October 31, 1965), was a Jewish American who was a former member of the American Nazi Party. Later, after a falling-out with founder George Lincoln Rockwell, Burros became a Kleagle, or recruiter, for the New York State branch of the United Klans of America, one of the most violent Klan groups of the time.[citation needed]

Dan Burros committed suicide on October 31, 1965, hours after his Jewish heritage was made public. He shot himself in the chest and then the head. At the time, he was reportedly listening to music composed by Richard Wagner.[1]

 

[markot]

Even then wouldn't he be at least a bit genetically Jewish?

Well yeah. But to be offically Jewish you need the mother. Well to some Jews.

 

[thetrin]

Hahaha this is cosmic humor at its finest.

 

[Killa Sasa]

Well done for the Clayton Bigsby nod, GAF. Exactly what I thought of.

 

[Replicant]

Karma is a cruel mistress.

 

[Bgamer90]

Haha perfect.

 

[sangreal]

Szegedi acknowledged in June that his grandparents on his mother's side were Jews — making him one too under Jewish law

I troll girls with this all the time when they tell me they only date jews. I don't consider myself Jewish, but my grandparents are on my mother's side. My cousins even did that birthright trip. My other side is Jamaican.

 

[CornBurrito]

I really dislike how it is now an ethnicity, a culture, and a religion. And if you are part of that ethnicity and dislike the religion or culture, people will label you as self-hating.

 

[Ether_Snake]

From jealousy, to pride.

 

[sazzy]

How is he Jewish if he doesn't practice the faith?

What does it matter if one of his anccestors is/was Jewish? Why would Jewish law be applicable to a person who doesn't practice the faith?

Are we supposed to be bound by who/what our ancestors are/were?

 

[BigDug13]

How is he Jewish if he doesn't practice the faith?

What does it matter if one of his anccestors is/was Jewish? Why would Jewish law be applicable to a person who doesn't practice the faith?

Are we supposed to be bound by who/what our ancestors are/were?

It is weird how that works. Like it's a race and religion. Isla Fisher converted to the faith to marry Sasha Baren Cohen (lucky guy). Would you call her a "Jew"?

I'm pretty sure Jesus believed he was the messiah, but was he not also Jewish?

Seems to be the race is what identifies people as a "Jew", even if they do not practice the Jewish faith.

 

[Beerman462]

That is all /thread

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Ahaha

 

[Kad5]

It is weird how that works. Like it's a race and religion. Isla Fisher converted to the faith to marry Sasha Baren Cohen (lucky guy). Would you call her a "Jew"?

I'm pretty sure Jesus believed he was the messiah, but was he not also Jewish?

Seems to be the race is what identifies people as a "Jew", even if they do not practice the Jewish faith.

Jewish identity is ethno-religious similar to Egyptian Copts. They also historically were one of the few nations without a common territory until very very recently.

 

[maomaoIYP]

I'm just wondering, if he's been hating Jews all his life, exactly how big a difference would this news make to him? In his mind he's never been one of them anyway, would he consider himself like a non-Jew Jew or something?

 

[Instigator]

I kind of was hoping he had killed himself after the revelation. It would have been consistent with his beliefs.

But I'll take him having a new outlook in life as a consolation price.

 

[Bombadil]

I really dislike how it is now an ethnicity, a culture, and a religion. And if you are part of that ethnicity and dislike the religion or culture, people will label you as self-hating.

That's how close-knit groups work.

 

[dekline]

That's it. This is all we need.

Close the thread

 

[Transhuman]

 

[Freezie KO]

It is weird how that works. Like it's a race and religion. Isla Fisher converted to the faith to marry Sasha Baren Cohen (lucky guy). Would you call her a "Jew"?

In order to get Isla Fisher, the Jewish community had to take this putz also.

 

[Vermillion]

The other thing we needed. Excellent.

 

[Kurtofan]

Is that real?

 

[Herpes Reasons]

if you hate your own people, its not racism.

 

[spindashing]

Is that real?

 

[Nibel]

Is that real?

Chappelle's Show sketch

And it fits perfectly

 

[Data West]

Did that guy just call us the n word?

 

[JehutyRunner]

 

[Vermillion]

Did that guy just call us the n word?

AWESOME!

 

[CornBurrito]

if you hate your own people, its not racism.

What if he hates them due to religious or cultural reasons? He himself is far removed from both, so it wouldn't necessarily be hypocritical.

 

[Alucrid]

he apologized "for any comments he had made against the Jewish community" and would like to make the trip to "pay his respects to the Holocaust martyrs."

Such empty bullshit.

 

[malingenie]

Such empty bullshit.

Actually, I am glad that's the approach he took. It could've gone much much worse and hateful.

 

[Castor Krieg]

Oh delicious, delicious irony. Love when these hatred filled individuals find out they actually are part of what they hate, homophobes, anti-semites, KKK members, etc.

I don't get how he suddenly changed his stance and plans a trip to Auschwitz when he learned he was a Jew.

 

[Reuenthal]

If I suddenly learned my grandparents from my mother side were Jews despite never in my life being a Jew or raised as Jew or having that identity, I would not consider myself a Jew. However for a racist whose views on identity might had to do more strongly with ancestry that might be different.

 

[shira]

Shalom

 

[Ban Puncher]

Oy Vey

 

[JHall]

Karma's a bitch.

 

[Baron Doggystyle von Woof]

1. Idiot for beeing a racist.
2. Idiot for not knowing he is jewish while hating on jews.

ccccc..cccccccombooo breakkkerrrrr

 

[shira]

1. Idiot for beeing a racist.
2. Idiot for not knowing he is jewish while hating on jews.

ccccc..cccccccombooo breakkkerrrrr

Who cares. As long as he figures it out. Everyone has their own path at their own pace.
His road was a little rockier.