Apparently you have different opinion whats racist and what is not. For me that is not racist, you are over reacting way to much.
Yea, you have no right to tell someone they are overreacting. Nobody gets mad for the sake of their health.
Apparently you have different opinion whats racist and what is not. For me that is not racist, you are over reacting way to much.
Edit: I am not talking about the dirty part, that is obviously not ok, I am talking about dressing and drinking.
If there's no ill intent, it's not racism, just lack of knowledge. Was I a racist when I repeated things from 1940's Looney Tunes episodes as a kid, not knowing what they meant or the history behind them?
I'm sure most people today, regardless of skin color, would take issue with people dressing up in blackface.Why would white people care about black face?
My Mexican girlfriend thinks you're overreacting.
My Mexican girlfriend thinks you're overreacting.
My Mexican girlfriend thinks you're overreacting.
My Mexican girlfriend thinks you're overreacting.
My Mexican girlfriend thinks you're overreacting.
ah racism defense force. "I've said racist things in the past, was I racist?" "Ah they don't have racism where they're from, they can't be racist. They just don't know better."
"Hey, Mexicans are pretty dirty. (Before bathing. We all are. See? Not racist, just fact.)"
lol finally he reads the OP
And my best friend is a mexican!
This must be answered. If they didn't then they weren't even having a real Mexican party.Op, did they buy fresca and tequila?
As a Mexican, I would've been perfectly fine to give them a pass on the costumes (even the taco one!) -- but the dirt part? Fuck them.
My Mexican girlfriend thinks you're overreacting.
Everyone dress dress as swedes and every time someone assumes you're Swedish correct them by saying you're Norwegian.How would you caricature Norwegians if you were to throw a 'Norwegian party'? Honest question
Did anyone in this thread actually say any of those?
So in your view, people wearing black faces while eating fried chicken and playing basketball with tribal African music playing in the background wouldn't be racist because they are just ignorant.
The ill intent is intrinsic to being racist. If you think Mexicans are dirty then what happens when you have to choose between two people and one is considered clean and the other one isn't. There is no such thing as innocent racism.
You were a kid and they are adults and come on "Mexicans are dirty" is extremely racist and has nothing to do with ignorance.
Even if they didn't have bad intentions, it's still ignorant and offensive. People defending/excusing that kind of behavior doesn't make things better.
Yea, you have no right to tell someone they are overreacting. Nobody gets mad for the sake of their health.
I'm sure most people today, regardless of skin color, would take issue with people dressing up in blackface.
I don't think anyone found the dirty nonsense inoffensive. There are however people in here trying to excuse it as "ignorance" which is ridiculous.As a mexican...I dont mind people wearing sombreros, and what not but engaging in negative stereotypes to represent Mexicans as dirty is fuckin offensive.
Anyways, doesn't seem like most GAF finds the "dirt" comment offensive because I think they have little experience in interacting with my people, and our culture. Just because african americans get treated like shit, doesn't mean that us mexicans dont. We, blacks and mexicans, experience the same shit everyday. Its not just a white and black issue but a brown issue too.
I love when the conversation is about whether or not something is in fact racist. That's the important part here. Whether it's crossed that line not their bullshit.
It's innappropriate, and bullshit. Now what? Is there anywhere to go from there? We all know it's not appropriate, at least. So, what's the next step?
"Dirty Mexicans" and "Mexicans are dirty" are both racist statements.I wasn't there. It's one thing to say "dirty Mexicans," another to simply state "Mexicans are dirty." I believe that such a statement could be made in ignorance, by someone who's clueless. If the OP provided context or more detail that refuted their being ignorant, then I would concede the point.
"Dirty Mexicans" and "Mexicans are dirty" are both racist statements.
You mean that thing that many think is racist and causes a shitstorm and has been talked about here multiple times and found to be racist?Take issue or not, where one culture sees racism, another might see tradition, or no racism. Even with black face.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet
You forgot "the people complaining about this are the real racist!" or "Quit playing the race card."It happens in every race-related thread. Black, brown, yellow, whatever.
There are always going to be people there to dismiss everything as "a joke" or "ignorance" (so let's not bother talking about it / just lighten up / ignore it and it'll go away / etc).
Racists have feelings too you know. You can't just call racism what it is.
Racists have feelings too you know. You can't just call racism what it is.
While I love the occasional outrage circle-jerk as well as the next guy, I find myself being the killjoy this time. There is only so much time in life, yet many people spend it deciding to be mad for reasons that aren't their own. To adopt anger or outrage on oneself as a stand-in for society or political correctness is a big burden to take on, and a lot of energy to expend for no purpose but feeding one's own negativity. College kids do stupid things all the time. Many of them are far more dangerous to themselves and others than what the OP, whose job it is to sell them alcohol, describes. Like, chill out, guys. While I can't tell the OP how to feel, the OP is able to choose how he feels. On another day where he wasn't already in a bad mood, he, or another in his place might have laughed the situation off. Since the OP's bad mood only effects himself, I would argue that letting it go would have been better for him than letting it worsen his mood further. But we're heading into psychology talk now... I understand that working at a liquor store might involve being around unsavory people at times, I would think that taking a laisez-faire approach to these people would help keep the job from getting the OP down.
You forgot "the people complaining about this are the real racist!" or "Quit playing the race card."
All of these statements are tools of the modern day racist used to stifle discussion about race.
According to this guy, they're "ignorant" not racist.
I am curious what someone would have to do to be considered racist by him.
Neogaf - Everything has a defense force.Neogaf - Everything is always racist.
Some people are going out of their way to be offended.
Stuff some people think is racist:
A Frenchman with a baguette and a white flag
An Englishman with a bowler hat, an umbrella and a cup of tea
A Dutchman with clogs
Neogaf - Everything is always racist.
Some people are going out of their way to be offended.
Stuff some people think is racist:
A Frenchman with a baguette and a white flag
An Englishman with a bowler hat, an umbrella and a cup of tea
A Dutchman with clogs
Neogaf - Everything has a defense force.
OP made it clear from the start that this is racist, somehow there are people who disagree.Actually agree with you, im just a little tired of these constant "is this racist" threads.