Duracelllll
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Racist kids pissed me off today
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JupitersClock
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Honestly, I really dont care nor does it bother me. Im in Latvia and my first idea of a mexican person for a dress up party is eiher a person selling oranges or those two brothers from Breaking bad.
That doesn't make me a Mexican hating racist, just shows I have very little exposure to them and their culture. ...just like those Norweigans.
God Dayumm
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So, knowing that you have little exposure and you ignore a lot, would you throw a mexican themed party?
JupitersClock
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I would be more inclined to have an underwear or party at a sauna.
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I think you're missing the entire point. Many of us don't consider the costumes racist. I'm Mexican and guess what? I'd not just laugh at, but encourage my friends to dress like that. Even if it is some dude selling oranges or what not. Those things are not racist, in my eyes.
The whole dirty face and saying Mexicans are dirty is the racist bit. That's where I draw the line.
I'd like to see those Norwegians try to pull that shit off in Mexico (the dirty faces bit -- the costumes are fine)-- the cartels would be the *least* of their worries.
this is where we preempt the old chestnuts so they don't have to.
Mexican themed party where there is mariachi music, salsa music, and food like tacos and burritos and enchiladas, tortilla chips and salsa, Mexican flags wouldn't really say it's racist. Heck I wouldn't even say that wearing sombreros and ponchos is racist. Is no one, who is not Mexican allowed to wear cultural/traditional clothing?
What would make it ignorant and disgusting is the dirt on their faces, the speaking like Speedy Gonzalez. I know in the modern globalized world, most people all wear denim jeans, t-shirts, eat sandwiches with mayo etc. But are we trying to say ponchos, sombreros and other Mexican clothing doesn't signify Mexico?
Those kids were a bunch of Europeans who probably haven't been exposed to the culture. If someone threw an Oktoberfest/German/Austrian type party, you'd wear lederhosen, have those German beer mugs, that German music playing etc.
Then again, I've never really seen anyone throw a certain ethnic group party before. I did go a to a multicultural party before where you show up with your traditional food and in your 'traditional' ethnic dress.
This is making me think though, I can't really speak for OP, what he saw and how they looked. So who knows. They could be just like those Arizona state kids.
What would make it ignorant and disgusting is the dirt on their faces, the speaking like Speedy Gonzalez. I know in the modern globalized world, most people all wear denim jeans, t-shirts, eat sandwiches with mayo etc. But are we trying to say ponchos, sombreros and other Mexican clothing doesn't signify Mexico?
Those kids were a bunch of Europeans who probably haven't been exposed to the culture. If someone threw an Oktoberfest/German/Austrian type party, you'd wear lederhosen, have those German beer mugs, that German music playing etc.
Then again, I've never really seen anyone throw a certain ethnic group party before. I did go a to a multicultural party before where you show up with your traditional food and in your 'traditional' ethnic dress.
This is making me think though, I can't really speak for OP, what he saw and how they looked. So who knows. They could be just like those Arizona state kids.
EdibleKnife
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If you wouldn't like people attributing the word "dirty" to yourself or your entire race, then there's no argument here. The OP is more than right to be astounded by those guys.
If dressing up like a taco is racist, I don't even know what racism is anymore.
In Europe these kind of things are seen a bit differently. Children in kindergarden dress up like that on carnivals every year, even today. mexicans with a hat, poncho and moustache, cowboys with moustaches and pistols and indians (native americans) with their feathers, bows and their traditional garments etc.
A lot of these stereotypes are derived from spaghetti westerns and movies like Winnetou and I guess that's what the girl meant when she said "dirty". Dirty in the sense of covered with desert sand or whatever. That doesn't excuse it of course, as adults they should know better, but generally there is less sensitivity with these types of stereotypes in Europe, especially when it comes to americans/indians/mexicans.
A lot of these stereotypes are derived from spaghetti westerns and movies like Winnetou and I guess that's what the girl meant when she said "dirty". Dirty in the sense of covered with desert sand or whatever. That doesn't excuse it of course, as adults they should know better, but generally there is less sensitivity with these types of stereotypes in Europe, especially when it comes to americans/indians/mexicans.
Sho_Nuff82
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Pro-tip: it's probably racist if you'd be too embarrassed to invite a minority to your "lets make fun of a minority party."
Not quite so anymore. Partly you're right but it's a global world and they sure as hell should know better. Shameful.
roosters93
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But what is it about culture themed parties that is inherently racist? What to you (and the other people in this thread saying the parties themselves are racist) makes it seem like they're projecting the notion Mexicans are inferior?
(Those are honest questions)
The dirt comment is obviously way, way inappropriate.
If mexican themed parties are a no go, what does that mean for extremely popular events like Oktoberfest and the like? How are hundreds of thousands of people getting it so wrong?
hah that's awesome
The most "fun" part is the posters saying they are just ignorant as if ignorance and racist are mutually exclusive to begin with.
Not everything racist has to be done with evil intent aka a klansman burning a cross in your front lawn. You can say/do racists things without being a Grand Dragon.
i_am_ben
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Those poor French it wasn't their fault the Holy Roman Empire, the Spanish and the English ganged up on them every time they tried to take over Europe
Jeez, she definitely confirmed the racist and offensive nature of that party with that "Meixcans are dirty" line. Going through a whole day of that nonsense would put me in a foul mood. You can argue ignorance to a certain extent, but at that age you should know better.
Yup, I really don't understand this. I've experienced the same thing here in NYC, blatantly racist (or just downright offensive) shit said about Hispanics that if said about another group would get you severe scorn from everyone. Why is it okay to take a dump on Hispanics?
Yup, I really don't understand this. I've experienced the same thing here in NYC, blatantly racist (or just downright offensive) shit said about Hispanics that if said about another group would get you severe scorn from everyone. Why is it okay to take a dump on Hispanics?
Ah the old "I wouldn't be offended if it was about white people" dismissal...
Thank you Mr. white person!
"Mexicans are dirty" Yeah... all in good fun!
Not everything is racist these days. Saying Mexicans are dirty is however racist but I'm sure that's all in good fun to you huh?
It seems racism has become an all or nothing thing.
You have to be a card carrying klansmen or else it's just ignorance not racism.
Black Republican
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But but i thought Oregon was liberal!
Angelus Errare
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smdh @ some of you people with your dismissals.
Ugh.
Ugh.
jim-jam bongs
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Fucking idiots, everyone knows the stereotype for Mexicans is lazy not dirty. Oh wait, that's been shot to pieces by all the people who move to the US from Mexico and work harder than most people born here. Guess they'd better stick with dirty then.
Tim the Wiz
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I can't tell whether people actually think the "Mexicans are dirty" line isn't racist (a little too far, inappropriate, etc. being the ambiguous statements in vogue), or if they're just not reading the OP properly and defaulting straight to the good old fashioned 'do we really have to correctly label racist things as racist when it's just so uncomfortable' position.
I'm Mexican, and that was offensive and racist. (btw I live in Mexico)
The Omega Man
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White america propagated those stereotypes, and like the rest of things that america exports, the rest of the world ate it up and assumed that's how Mexicans are.
If they only knew that they are incredible hardworking people (so much for the lazy stereotype) they come in all sizes and colors from the small dark skinned tones to tall blondes and everything in between, and that they are one of the friendliest people on earth, but hey lets just stereotype it's easier.
If they only knew that they are incredible hardworking people (so much for the lazy stereotype) they come in all sizes and colors from the small dark skinned tones to tall blondes and everything in between, and that they are one of the friendliest people on earth, but hey lets just stereotype it's easier.
Alligatorjandro
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Are you sure those kids weren't American?
PhoenixDark
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I don't think it's racist to have a Mexican themed party if it's for fun; having Mexican food, attire, etc is fine. But having dirty faces is straight up wrong, and outright saying "Mexicans are dirty" is racist. I've attended black themed parties where people brought soul food (including fried chicken) and didn't feel it was racist. But if someone had arrived in blackface or started talking about baby mamas sure, that would cross the line.
On another note it's amazing how threads like this expose people.
On another note it's amazing how threads like this expose people.
OP already said he was mad as hell even before the dirt part, which seems to be an overreaction.
Calling them an incredibly hardworking people or the friendliest people on earth is as much of a sweeping generalization as any of the negative stereotypes.
Byakuya769
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Aren't they from one of the countries that thinks "soot," pink lips and an Afro wig is a good time had by all?
Is this a joke post? The irony is thick.
The Omega Man
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In my experience yes, they are vastly different from the negative stereotypes the white american media has propagated, just pointing that out.
Shamrock7r
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You don't think using the term "white america" as a negative in your post is stereotyping white Americans?
John Kowalski
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Culturally tactless europeans, what else is new.
I don't feel that one should interpret european racial and cultural relationships with the same lens that one would use to interpret american racial and cultural relationships, but it's gaf, who really cares. I still think whaling norwegians are worse than racist norwegians.
I don't feel that one should interpret european racial and cultural relationships with the same lens that one would use to interpret american racial and cultural relationships, but it's gaf, who really cares. I still think whaling norwegians are worse than racist norwegians.
jesus your just as worst as those dismissing this as not racist.
Americans would probably be the last people to do something like this given how many of the population is of Mexican descent.
I don't see what's horribly racist about just a general Mexican themed party with ponchos, sombreros, fake moustaches and tequila. They're not negative stereotypes. It's not like they're parading around golden niggas.
The "dirty" part definitely crosses the line of course.
The "dirty" part definitely crosses the line of course.
water_wendi
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Its not racist because afaik there is no Mexican race but it is very bigoted. Also the hats and ponchos with drinks would be fine if it were to be a party that had actual basis in the culture.. say Cinco or something.. but to throw a "Mexican Party?" It sounds like the whole affair is geared to belittle and is in extremely bad taste.
Alligatorjandro
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lol
Shamrock7r
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While I agree his post was stupid, as I said earlier in the thread, I'm from South Texas, and there were always a couple of Mexican themed parties around here that I knew about each year, often times hosted by those of Mexican descent.
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