I guess it's so that you have to decide between the relative trade-offs between the abilities. Although, it's fairly random, at least in regards to weapons. I have multiple versions of the same named weapons, some have entirely positive traits, whilst others aren't even worth keeping.
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Ragnarok Odyssey |OT| Hunt Monsters, Pop Porings
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I guess it's so that you have to decide between the relative trade-offs between the abilities. Although, it's fairly random, at least in regards to weapons. I have multiple versions of the same named weapons, some have entirely positive traits, whilst others aren't even worth keeping.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I am really enjoying the game but weapon drops seems limited to only a couple of types per chapter so far and doesn't create a great variety in that regard. I am sure things pick up a lot more in chapter 3 on, where I am at now.
Really loving the assassin though. Though I may switch it up and try out another class for chapter 3.
Really loving the assassin though. Though I may switch it up and try out another class for chapter 3.
So I had literally no idea what this game was going in. I picked a hunter. Seems like that may have been a bad idea? I tried doing the "extra quest" right away and got destroyed in a little enclosed monster area. Ranged is kind of useless when you are forced to fight in such cramped quarters.
Pick apart my statement, tell me how to play this game!
Pick apart my statement, tell me how to play this game!
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Hunter is VERY challenging to play solo. In a group, Hunter is awesome. But, if you're like me and are determined to stick with it, here are some tips I can give.
1) Your best ground combo (arguably) is tri, tri, circle, circle, circle. You can rapid fire this to wreck enemies as they close the gap.
2) Learn and love dash cancelling and running. You can dash between combo hits, so do it. A lot. Also, holding R is important during most encounters.
3) The closer you are, the more damage you do. But as you already alluded to, this is tough...
4) Learn to use your air attacks. Jump followed by circle gives a close up arrow rain attack that is easily spamable. Use it. Experiment with air combos in general, though.
5) Circle launch is very important and can be a life saver. If there's a card or weapon that boosts your launch chance (not sure if there is...), use it. Launch combos can make a huge difference.
6) Did I mention dash cancelling? Seriously...
7) I used cards that raise attack and lower tension gain. Base attack feels more important to me than tension based attack since you're not doing a lot of rapid up close strings like Sins and Sword Warriors. It's up to you how you card...
8) But that being said, do NOT make yourself susceptible to any status effects. Oh GOD - as a Hunter, status ailments are misery. We have shitty defense and need to stay away from the enemy AND keep our health and AP up. It's a tough world for a Hunter early on.
I don't know, there's more...But these are the things that are really helping me at the moment.
Oh, and don't forget that you can TOUCH the potions you want to drink. Thanks again to whoever posted that yesterday...No more shitty select + potion bullshit.
xKilltheMx
Member
Guys wtf is tension?
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Sure thing. Hunter's are a really really tough class to play. Like I said, in a group, you'll feel like you're playing an entirely different class (because you can almost go turret on the enemies). Solo will be a real test, ha.
Also, check out the manual for combos. It does a great job of listing all of the combos and how to execute them.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Eagerly awaits this answer.
chickdigger802
Banned
circular bar near your health.
it fills up and you can go 'vampire mode'.
speaking of which, i really can't seem to find a good combo as a mage for that mode. hmmm....
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
E: I've been doing it wrong and thinking it was the crystal, haha. Woops.
EE: I think DS is activated by SP gain, which is the red circle...my original response may be right:
That crystal in the bottom left corner of your screen indicates tension. You noticed how when you enter DS mode, it goes all ape shit rainbow? That's max tension. More tension = more damage.
You build it by executing combos, using tension boosting items, and I THINK the stars you pickup from boxes and enemies raise it, too.
EE: I think DS is activated by SP gain, which is the red circle...my original response may be right:
That crystal in the bottom left corner of your screen indicates tension. You noticed how when you enter DS mode, it goes all ape shit rainbow? That's max tension. More tension = more damage.
You build it by executing combos, using tension boosting items, and I THINK the stars you pickup from boxes and enemies raise it, too.
chickdigger802
Banned
you hold it down for it to lock on. you hold it down to lock off. dpad left right to swap monsters, up down to swap boss 'body parts'.
i think? might be backwards.
donkey show
Member
Oh man, really tempted to play this game since I used to rock RO way back in the day... Dagger Assassin FTW! :S
How big is the download?
How big is the download?
Youre right.
My initial problem with it was that the directions say "Press L" and not "Hold L". I get nowhere when I press it so I just hold it all the time.
denshuu
Member
Tension is that crystal. Tension builds up as you attack enemies and causes the crystal to start glowing/flashing, which allows you to do more damage. The red bar is your Dainsleif Meter, which drains your health but increases your attack power and lets you drain health every hit when you activate it. It's not related to Tension.
chickdigger802
Banned
quick tap l is for centering camera i think. i find that more useful than right stick cuz
fucking modern game controls
let me wack and change the camera at the same time damn it!
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I would avoid using the lock-on unless
1. you have no idea where the enemies are.
2. there is exactly one enemy and your plan is to circle strafe it.
When you change the enemy you're locked onto, the next enemy it picks might as well be random. I'm sure there is something deterministic going on, but it's definitely not based on enemy proximity.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
That's what I thought (hence my re-edit, haha).
Hey guys and gals! I finally got a chance to play a little bit last night. Playing a hunter currently, and I am only towards the end of Chapter 1, but I am really liking it. Hope to actually get to play with some of you. Feel free to add me to your friends list. My PSN id is Tagrat. I'm on the East Coast and mostly can play at night time due to work.
Do most people choose to not use the lock-on?
I only use it on bosses.
I only use it for bosses and "subbosses" like HillGiants.
I come from a Monster Hunter background, so I just use the L button camera recenter to get my bearings. In my last session though, I tried the lock-on, and the additional information it conveys such as enemy distance is pretty useful, so I may try to adapt.
...but the lock-on cursor turns Red when you're able to hit an enemy with a juggle attack--isn't this important info. to know? Other than intricate visual cues, is there another way for know when an enemy is staggered?
If an enemy is easily staggered, you don't really need to know when they're going to stagger.
If not and there's more than one and especially if they have ranged attacks, you're only going to be doing hit and run type attacks anyway unless you're a hunter. If you're a hunter and your weapon isn't fantastic, you're probably screwed.
donkey show
Member
Ah good deal. Still have a bit of space in the fridge so this will fit nicely! Hope to see you guys here soon!
I can kill common enemies in a single combo so I don't need it for them.
chickdigger802
Banned
I just wish it was more obvious that a baddie is dead.
Death seems like the most definitive of indicators!
Every enemy has a fairly obvious death animation. Plus you should get a feel for how many hits each enemy takes from your current weapon.
Actually... once you get a weapon to +9, you can break the weapon and have it's abilities turned into a card. So in a way, there IS a fusion system.
Oyashrio-Sama
Member
Day off!!! Now I can really play the game today and make some progress!
chickdigger802
Banned
There seems to be a delay, and you still can hit dead stuff.
It's usually when you are juggling them, but some larger enemies do have a fairly long death animation.
That's for chaining/keeping tension up purposes. Like Billie said, it's not hard to get a feel for when things die, recognize what the death animation is, and notice the blue goodies pop out of them (which happens the moment they die, regardless of animation).
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
darkjedi187
Member
where do you get additional armor? Can you craft it?
To people on my friendlist: Send a neat little card your way. I hope you like being immune to stun.
You do so after it's unlocked at the tailor, which does so after you reach certain chapters.
Edit: omg desert wolf card, why are you as good here as you were back in RO *_*
You do so after it's unlocked at the tailor, which does so after you reach certain chapters.
Edit: omg desert wolf card, why are you as good here as you were back in RO *_*
darkjedi187
Member
I need a desert wolf card. Do the expansions you buy from the tailor carry over to other armor?
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Rewind.
I thought cards can have different abilities on them? The card counter had a card for trade that I wanted, but it required a Spore card with different abilities than the Spore card I had...
I thought cards can have different abilities on them? The card counter had a card for trade that I wanted, but it required a Spore card with different abilities than the Spore card I had...
Correct. They can have different sets of abilities, with the sets actually varying depending on the chapter you kill the monster in.
For instance, Spore can have 4 different sets of abilities if you kill one in Chapters 1-3, four different ones in chapters 4-6, and four different ones from the last two in chapters 7-9.
Dat desert wolf card. Freaking sexy abilities on there.
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Charging ahead into ch 5. Finished fafnir (that was fun, wasnt expecting him to split like he did and do some heavy aoe spin type move). Didnt see his drops (due to my work break being up), but ill prob be farming him for some mats Im guessing.
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Charging ahead into ch 5. Finished fafnir (that was fun, wasnt expecting him to split like he did and do some heavy aoe spin type move). Didnt see his drops (due to my work break being up), but ill prob be farming him for some mats Im guessing.
perfect free
Member
Ooh, didn't know about the chapter affecting card abilities. But then again I'm only on Chapter 2. >.>
How long do the trade offers at the card counter last? Do they get rerolled when you go on a quest?
How long do the trade offers at the card counter last? Do they get rerolled when you go on a quest?
chickdigger802
Banned
Is there any reason to keep crap weapons? I mean is there a way to disassemble them for mats or anything?