With the exception to a half assed party system and questionable UI design decisions, the Xbox One is a great system. The PS4 is the more powerful and more thoughtfully realized console, but even with 500 friends, I still don't ever feel like I'm part of a larger online community. Xbox Live is a community. Even when people are nestled in their own party chats, I still get that impression that I'm connected to other users. But most of all, I feel the hype around Sony's exclusives are only just that.... Hype. I really don't care about Uncharted, Killzone, God of War or Gran Turismo, Infamous or LBP. The Order looks great though. Anyway, they're all good fun, but I wouldn't necessarily miss any of them if they ceased to exist. None of them have any longevity or lasting appeal. It just seems like Sony's games all focus on production over how to make something addictingly fun and unforgettable. Any sense of community and excitement for Sony's games feel disingenuous and manufactured. It just isn't there. Again, MS might have the weaker system, embarrasingly out of touch PR and a shitty UI, but there is something about what they offer and the community they support is what makes me more excited for what's next to come.
Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.
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Disaster Nebraska
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- The "expanded audience" of the Wii and DS were the correct direction to go and this gen will suffer because the console/handheld markets underserved those customers and therefore lost them
- On the same note, the Wii and DS were not fads and their success absolutely can be replicated
- Peace Walker is the best MGS with the best story
- I think the industry would benefit if 80% of the games with stories simply cut those stories. Arcade-inspired mentality instead of Hollywood-inspired mentality is what we need in order to avoid this AAA death-spiral
- Super Mario World was mediocre. NSMB Wii is the best game in the franchise.
- I believe sales are the only accurate way to determine a game's overall quality. While I - personally - enjoy plenty of low-selling niche titles, I absolutely believe that higher sales = better game as a general rule of thumb. Yes, Wii Sports > Minecraft > GTA5 > Call of Duty > Last of Us > Bioshock Infinite in any conversation where quality is concerned, despite my personal tastes to the contrary.
- Convenience > power. I have a gaming PC but I prefer to play a lot of games on my Vita and 3DS, simply because those platforms are more respectful of my time.
- On the same note, the Wii and DS were not fads and their success absolutely can be replicated
- Peace Walker is the best MGS with the best story
- I think the industry would benefit if 80% of the games with stories simply cut those stories. Arcade-inspired mentality instead of Hollywood-inspired mentality is what we need in order to avoid this AAA death-spiral
- Super Mario World was mediocre. NSMB Wii is the best game in the franchise.
- I believe sales are the only accurate way to determine a game's overall quality. While I - personally - enjoy plenty of low-selling niche titles, I absolutely believe that higher sales = better game as a general rule of thumb. Yes, Wii Sports > Minecraft > GTA5 > Call of Duty > Last of Us > Bioshock Infinite in any conversation where quality is concerned, despite my personal tastes to the contrary.
- Convenience > power. I have a gaming PC but I prefer to play a lot of games on my Vita and 3DS, simply because those platforms are more respectful of my time.
sparkeysam
Member
I thoroughly enjoyed Duke Nuke Forever.
Phew, that feels better.
Phew, that feels better.
cartman414
Member
5 was awesome.
Nintendo understands the handheld market way more than Sony does. And I like all of their respective handhelds.
What about Mega Man 2?
SirUltimos
Member
I feel that, right now, The Xbox One is a much better console than the PS4 is and I wish I'd have bought one of those instead. Resogun is incredible, but I felt that Shadow Fall is one of the worst FPS' I've ever played and Knack isn't very good. With the Xbox One I'd have access to all the multiplatform as well as (at least in my opinion) the much better exclusives.
Yep. that's a pretty controversial opinion right there.
NuclearTurtle
Neo Member
It seems impossible to me that anyone thinks the 3D Zeldas are better (or even particularly good). Link's Awakening was my first Zelda, and it was great. None of the 3D Zeldas I've played get even close. In 2D, the controls are tight. Movement is simple and you go exactly where you want to go. Your sword / shield / items all fire in one of the four main directions exactly as you tell it to. 3D's controls have always felt extremely sloppy and cumbersome. Part of that is being built on Nintendo systems that have controllers that fundamentally suck at 3rd person action combat, but it's also a failure to build a game that requires something the system can't provide..
So a few points that I wanted to state:
1. Bioshock Infinite was one of the dullest games I've played of 2013 and it boggles my mind that it's a "masterpiece".
2. Splinter Cell Blacklist is the best game in the series for me (aside from the story and the butchering of Sam)
3. I like to play Sonic 06 occasionally just for shits and giggles.
1. Bioshock Infinite was one of the dullest games I've played of 2013 and it boggles my mind that it's a "masterpiece".
2. Splinter Cell Blacklist is the best game in the series for me (aside from the story and the butchering of Sam)
3. I like to play Sonic 06 occasionally just for shits and giggles.
FuriousDark
Banned
Too far, man. Too far.
It's a weird state of affairs when this is considered a controversial opinion. The PS4 and Xbone exclusive lineups are very different, it's totally understandable one would strongly prefer one over the other
Time to vent a little bit:
- Metal Gear Rising is one of the worst looking games I have ever played. It seems like there was no art direction at all.
- Final Fantasy 7 is extremely boring with awful characters and one of the most overrated games ever
- Game design in most games just seems extremely poor after playing Demon / Dark Souls
- Portal 2 has very shitty puzzles and 95% of them require no thought. I would call it an adventure game and not a puzzle game.
- PC gaming can sometimes be a huge hassle when compared to consoles. ( I think this should be pretty obvious but according to a recent thread here it is very controversial and I'm a liar for saying that )
- Metal Gear Rising is one of the worst looking games I have ever played. It seems like there was no art direction at all.
- Final Fantasy 7 is extremely boring with awful characters and one of the most overrated games ever
- Game design in most games just seems extremely poor after playing Demon / Dark Souls
- Portal 2 has very shitty puzzles and 95% of them require no thought. I would call it an adventure game and not a puzzle game.
- PC gaming can sometimes be a huge hassle when compared to consoles. ( I think this should be pretty obvious but according to a recent thread here it is very controversial and I'm a liar for saying that )
I can get where you're coming from about Portal 2. The game is more "leisurely" than the first one, and the only reason it got away with it was because of the writing, plot, and characters.
Sanctuary
Member
I agree with this. Except for the game being good.
thechristoph
Sir!
Agreed. I've read online that its Japanese title is actually Link's Fetch Quest Adventure: From One End of the Agonizingly Labyrinthine World Map to the Other Roughly Nine Hundred Times!
Yeah, except for the game being good. It's EXCELLENT.
1st Course
Member
Sony did a fantastic job with the PS4 OS. I prefer it over the XMB even..
TheDarkStark
Member
This is awful, all of it. Terrible. May (insert deity) have mercy on your soul.
-Ys VI is better than Oath in Fleghana
-Major sites like IGN/Gamespot/EGM/etc sold their souls during last two console generation and Titan fall/AC/Halo/GTA/etc have been all media hyped to generate sales.
-most open world games are just fetch quests where now you have to travel through the towns unlike the old games where you just skipped to it.
-Major sites like IGN/Gamespot/EGM/etc sold their souls during last two console generation and Titan fall/AC/Halo/GTA/etc have been all media hyped to generate sales.
-most open world games are just fetch quests where now you have to travel through the towns unlike the old games where you just skipped to it.
-Valve hasn't made a good game since HL2.
-MGS4 is the best in the series.
-GTA is a shitty series of games.
-F2P is a good thing, not the end of the world.
-Demon's Souls is the better game.
-Retro graphics for the sake of latching on to nostalgia is a garbage design decision. It's the hipster trash of gaming, which makes most indie games the hipster trash of gaming.
-MGS4 is the best in the series.
-GTA is a shitty series of games.
-F2P is a good thing, not the end of the world.
-Demon's Souls is the better game.
-Retro graphics for the sake of latching on to nostalgia is a garbage design decision. It's the hipster trash of gaming, which makes most indie games the hipster trash of gaming.
samwizered
Member
Yeah, I think people shat on that game a bit too much. It wasn't the masterpiece many of us expected from years and years of development, but it wasn't that bad.
Agreed. It was one of the most dull and pretentious games I've played in recent years. It was worth a playthrough, but I don't see myself ever touching it again. Luckily, I got it for free from a friend who got a Steam key with his new video card and didn't want it - I would've felt so cheated if I payed full price.
Storm Chamber
Banned
There's not a thing wrong with this. It was far and away the best part of the game
I can agree on Portal 2. Such a disappointment. The story was great, and all that, but the puzzles like....
WHERE ARE MY FREAKING LAUNCH PUZZLES?!?!
Made me so upset since they're practically non-existent in Portal 2. Y know, where you have to use gravity to launch yourself to otherwise inaccessible places.Portal 2 didn't require thought. A nice play through, but boring as anything.
And I agree with the Final Fantasy thing too. Actually...I find most Final Fantasy like that.
You and I, we probably get along together!
NecromorphTX
Member
I have a love/hate relationship with Nintendo, i hate Zelda with all my soul, i love/hate Mario, i dislike Donkey Kong (it's boring as fuck) and i love Kirby's and Pokemon series (the rest it's in-existent for me).
I think WiiU it's a waste of time and money, i prefer play with a brick than with a WiiU.
I don't consider PC a gaming platform, no games, no fun, toxic community.
I loved Souls series until was become popular.
Valve died in HL2, now it's a poor page where you buy cheap games and see the decay of PC community.
Uncharted 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uncharted 2.
Zero's Escape series are exponential better than The Walking Dead.
I think WiiU it's a waste of time and money, i prefer play with a brick than with a WiiU.
I don't consider PC a gaming platform, no games, no fun, toxic community.
I loved Souls series until was become popular.
Valve died in HL2, now it's a poor page where you buy cheap games and see the decay of PC community.
Uncharted 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uncharted 2.
Zero's Escape series are exponential better than The Walking Dead.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Most bitching about accessibility in Fighters are by scrubs who get their asses handed to them in the games that pass their scrub test anyways as they don't learn mindgames, the basic spacing, defense, capitalizing on mistakes, and never touched low execution characters like Astaroth or Dhalsim otherwise (like I did instead of bitching).
I don't like Metal Gear Solid 2 for a variety of reasons, with the biggest being the ratio of listening and watching to actual doing. It's fascinating and thorough, but I don't think it's well-executed. MGS4 just is a trainwreck.
I know you're banned, but I really can't think of a single boss or enemy in Demon's Souls who's a bullet sponge other than King Allant and the two dragons (Who you're not really intended to kill without cheesing). They go down pretty fast if you upgrade your gear at the normal rate and try a variety of weapons (Like using piercing or magic attacks in Stonefang Tunnel).
agree on lost planet 2. it was the tits.
Laieon
Member
One man's garbage is another man's treasure.
I believe PlayStation Now is going to flop out of the gate. It'll get better as internet speeds increase, but the first few months/years are going to be rough.
Rewards programs like GCU are just scams so Best Buy can make sure that you buy from their store and not Amazon.
Anyone who pays for Xbox Live does not have the right to complain about PS+ charging for multi-player.
Naughty Dog should never make another Crash or Jak & Daxter game. They're past that, get someone else to do it.
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale would have been so much better had it been a shameless Smash clone.
I don't get Dark Souls II or Minecraft.
I think the next Gears is going to be a flop. I mean seriously, the studio making it has only made one other title. Microsoft Flight. Come on.
Michael Pachter is actually a smart guy who makes educated guesses. While he's not an insider, per se, he does have knowledge on how the industry works, and he shouldn't be ragged on as much as he is.
Rewards programs like GCU are just scams so Best Buy can make sure that you buy from their store and not Amazon.
Anyone who pays for Xbox Live does not have the right to complain about PS+ charging for multi-player.
Naughty Dog should never make another Crash or Jak & Daxter game. They're past that, get someone else to do it.
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale would have been so much better had it been a shameless Smash clone.
I don't get Dark Souls II or Minecraft.
I think the next Gears is going to be a flop. I mean seriously, the studio making it has only made one other title. Microsoft Flight. Come on.
Michael Pachter is actually a smart guy who makes educated guesses. While he's not an insider, per se, he does have knowledge on how the industry works, and he shouldn't be ragged on as much as he is.
Indeed my friend, I do like some of the aspects of these games, I just don't find them fun to play myself.
I can atleast respect and appreciate the passion fans share for the series. I don't take joy in hating on what other people may like.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
- The FPS Source Engine is one of the most fluid FPS engines around. Overall, it's probably one of the best FPS engines in gaming.
- Costume Quest is perhaps the best Halloween themed video game ever made. I'm very excited for the sequel.
- Bubble Bobble Neo on the 360 is one of the best remade retro games ever.
- Bubble Bobble is one of the best, if not the best, classic arcade game ever.
- Costume Quest is perhaps the best Halloween themed video game ever made. I'm very excited for the sequel.
- Bubble Bobble Neo on the 360 is one of the best remade retro games ever.
- Bubble Bobble is one of the best, if not the best, classic arcade game ever.
FFXIII is a surprisingly good game. The story deals with interesting concepts as fate and fighting against it, had really good character development, some really catchy music, and a battle system that was fast-paced and fun for the most part.
Chrono Trigger was a good RPG, but by no means great.
Chrono Trigger was a good RPG, but by no means great.
I think Dark Souls 2 was made by a bunch of FromSoft wannabes. The game is fucking turd-shit.
Their sad attempts at trying to make some bosses relevant by saying they are actually "old bosses" is just fucking putrid. Not content with making shit, they try and drag down the godly game that is Dark Souls with it. I refuse to accept any possible connections as canon.
Their sad attempts at trying to make some bosses relevant by saying they are actually "old bosses" is just fucking putrid. Not content with making shit, they try and drag down the godly game that is Dark Souls with it. I refuse to accept any possible connections as canon.
FloweryMarston
Member
My biggest wish would be to find everything in life something worthwhile to enjoy, specially games. I really want to have that feeling of going to some rental store, see the boxart of a game, and think "this is really really cool", and play and enjoy based on that. Nowadays it's really hard for me to get extremely excited about a game because people say it's good or it's well reviewed. I have an open mind, but i tend to follow the companies and people that i really really like, or if the game has a fantastic theme.
Seeing people talk shit about games i like hurt me a lot sometimes, specially if i'm in a bad mood.
As much as I find NeoGAF the best place for gaming news and discussions, there is some things here that get on my nerves, specially regarding how game development works. The internet made everyone a pseudo-intellectual, so now we have people talking about a lot of terms that they don't seem to even understand.
I enter this thread sometimes to see if i'm not cynical yet.
Oh and a Developer should make the games that they want (specially if they have the privilege for doing whatever they want) to make, and never hear some things people say, like retro "wasting" talent on donkey kong. I do think that criticism is good, but a worthwhile one, and not some of the offensive things i read in the internet sometimes.
The gaming community in general is a very wild spectrum, I love and hate it with a passion. The gaming community brings a lot of joy to me and many other people, they also tend to be super cool in many occasions. But sometimes they seem to be like a sports team fan, rather than an entertainment fan. So people trash each other inside the community, which saddens me a lot
And i hate your favorite gaming series. sorry about that =/
Seeing people talk shit about games i like hurt me a lot sometimes, specially if i'm in a bad mood.
As much as I find NeoGAF the best place for gaming news and discussions, there is some things here that get on my nerves, specially regarding how game development works. The internet made everyone a pseudo-intellectual, so now we have people talking about a lot of terms that they don't seem to even understand.
I enter this thread sometimes to see if i'm not cynical yet.
Oh and a Developer should make the games that they want (specially if they have the privilege for doing whatever they want) to make, and never hear some things people say, like retro "wasting" talent on donkey kong. I do think that criticism is good, but a worthwhile one, and not some of the offensive things i read in the internet sometimes.
The gaming community in general is a very wild spectrum, I love and hate it with a passion. The gaming community brings a lot of joy to me and many other people, they also tend to be super cool in many occasions. But sometimes they seem to be like a sports team fan, rather than an entertainment fan. So people trash each other inside the community, which saddens me a lot
And i hate your favorite gaming series. sorry about that =/
I definitely agree about the sexism in the gaming community. Any time you even try to even breach the subject, people jump down your throat calling you some overly-sensitive liberal or someone who simply likes to white knight for women.
FloweryMarston
Member
I would love to see more halloween themed games. actually, this is an objective of mine. to make the ultimate halloween game.
costume quest is great! i don't know many other halloween games though =(
How do you mean? I've yet to play the game, pretty goddamn excited for the PC version
I don't really give a fuck about the lore though, so if it's just all lore-related I don't think it matters to me
OldKingDoran
Banned
I didn't care for most of Sony's first party titles for the PS3.
Killzone 2/3 was a pretty standard fps, with 2 having bad input lag and 3 suffering from CoD-ification
Resistance series was pretty generic and boring too aside from 2's 8 player co-op.
Infamous 1/2 were decent open world games but nothing special. The side missions were pretty lame and after second playthrough there isn't anything to do aside from orb collecting.
Heavy Rain/Beyond Two Souls have such a broken storyline for games trying to be more like movies than games
Uncharted series was just a standard TPS with good mocap. I personally didn't care for the story, but maybe thats because i don't like Indiana Jones.
LittleBigPlanet is way too floaty and unprecise to be considered a good platformer. However it is fun playing couch co-op and trying out creative levels others have made
The only real standout first party titles for me is Tokyo Jungle and Ratchet and Clank Future ToD.
Killzone 2/3 was a pretty standard fps, with 2 having bad input lag and 3 suffering from CoD-ification
Resistance series was pretty generic and boring too aside from 2's 8 player co-op.
Infamous 1/2 were decent open world games but nothing special. The side missions were pretty lame and after second playthrough there isn't anything to do aside from orb collecting.
Heavy Rain/Beyond Two Souls have such a broken storyline for games trying to be more like movies than games
Uncharted series was just a standard TPS with good mocap. I personally didn't care for the story, but maybe thats because i don't like Indiana Jones.
LittleBigPlanet is way too floaty and unprecise to be considered a good platformer. However it is fun playing couch co-op and trying out creative levels others have made
The only real standout first party titles for me is Tokyo Jungle and Ratchet and Clank Future ToD.
JinjoUnchained
Member
I'm a big Rare fan, but I don't get Conker's Bad Fur Day and don't see why it is praised so highly. IMO it's a big step down from Banjo and DK 64. Painfully linear, nauseating camera, unsatisfying platforming, and weak combat. It seems to alternate between two modes: 1.) Mandatory action sequences with new controls thrown at you that are never used again (i.e. the bull and prune juice thing) or 2.) platforming up to ridiculously high apexes using very narrow footholds. I get the impression that they thought of funny scenarios first and gameplay second, shoehorning in the controls to fit the set pieces. In that way it reminds me of modern cinematic action games like Uncharted. That's not a compliment.
I can see why it made a big impact at time of release. Take the popular 3D platformer and throw in South Park style crude humor. And it is really funny with a lot of personality. But gameplay wise it's just a decent but frustrating 3D platformer. Not even close to Mario 64, Banjo, Jak, etc. Am I missing something here? If so, Conker fans, fill me in!
I can see why it made a big impact at time of release. Take the popular 3D platformer and throw in South Park style crude humor. And it is really funny with a lot of personality. But gameplay wise it's just a decent but frustrating 3D platformer. Not even close to Mario 64, Banjo, Jak, etc. Am I missing something here? If so, Conker fans, fill me in!
Boomstick (Coffee Crazy)
Banned
Sony is a worse company than Microsoft, they just know how to manage their crises better.
Kirby Air Ride is one of the best racing games I've ever played and the city trials is one of the most genius "open area kart maps" ever.
Halo: Reach was a really damn good game and its multiplayer was not horribly broken.
That is all I can think of right now.
Kirby Air Ride is one of the best racing games I've ever played and the city trials is one of the most genius "open area kart maps" ever.
Halo: Reach was a really damn good game and its multiplayer was not horribly broken.
That is all I can think of right now.
Fuz
Banned
- A mouse is always the best option for control in a 3D evinroment, and when it's not it's just because of bad, terrible design aimed toward the gamepad.
- shoulder camera is an aberration and one of the most irritating trends in videogames nowadays. I wish they'd drop it completely or at least give us an option for a centered camera.
- Lack of customizable controls is something stupid, annoying and gamebreaking.
- Chrono Trigger is the greatest JRPG ever made, and there isn't a single Final Fantasy that can compare.
- shoulder camera is an aberration and one of the most irritating trends in videogames nowadays. I wish they'd drop it completely or at least give us an option for a centered camera.
- Lack of customizable controls is something stupid, annoying and gamebreaking.
- Chrono Trigger is the greatest JRPG ever made, and there isn't a single Final Fantasy that can compare.