I truly agree with this. You never hear people praising the Beastie Boys like on the level of Em. It's rather depressing because they pretty much bridged the gap between Rock and Hip Hop along with Run DMC/Aerosmith.
Plus their discography>>>>>
Rap is black music, but Eminem does it better than black artists according to 50cent
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I truly agree with this. You never hear people praising the Beastie Boys like on the level of Em. It's rather depressing because they pretty much bridged the gap between Rock and Hip Hop along with Run DMC/Aerosmith.
Plus their discography>>>>>
I think this calls for a lost chapter of the Neghrost Chronicles.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
50cent is black so he must be right!
Black Lawn
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This. I think even Eminem alluded to Kendrick in the past. The old guard is giving way to the new guard and it's being led by Kendrick Lamar.
Hip Hop
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Ain't that the truth
Subpar Spatula
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I wouldn't know if I have the knowledge to say Eminem is the best but he is undoubtedly one of the best. He is still better than most of the rappers out there.
bobbychalkers
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Yeah I though I was listening to Daydream Nation earlier today, turns out it was Crime Mob
GrizzleBoy
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Came to post this.
TheOohChild
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Care to expand on that? Or are you just trying to raise salt levels? Cuz I kinda think you are a stupid asshole for saying that
Polip Fawn
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I still find it funny about this "black music" mindest when the majority of the music popular today is techncially "black music" WW, or came from an older genre by them.
More Fun To Compute
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He's no Ice-T.
Angelus Errare
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Indeed, that's why there's the one drop rule. Even those who are only 1% black can be controlled by mother brain.
I don't think they're ready for that kind of knowledge drop.
BruceLeeRoy
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I completely accept that.
In all honesty I am probably the worst judge since I'm a suburban kid from Cali but man I loved Em when I was younger. He just blew my mind. I had never heard a rapper sound that amazing on a technical level before.
I like Eminem, but I haven't cared for his current output of music. That doesn't take away from him as a rapper to me, I just think my taste has changed since then. On a technical level, I consider him really strong, but I don't know about the best. The efforts put forth to discredit him are pretty ridiculous, though, stop being salty.
Del + Dan the Automater is the best it gets for me. Del's current solo output has been ass, though. Like really ass.
Del + Dan the Automater is the best it gets for me. Del's current solo output has been ass, though. Like really ass.
aygomyownroad
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J to the ROC knowsaying
Eminem's output has been poor since his second CD in my opinion. But rap music is for everyone regardless of race ita akl about skill and everyone knows
Beastie Boys
Not to me it wasn't. Em is a fantastic lyricist. Its anything BUT surprising to hear actual MC's praise his talent. The hate is generally from try hards on the internet, NOT from within the industry itself. There's a list as long as the nile from people within the industry that respect Em.
I think everyone loved late 90's early 2000's Em. He had an ability to relate to the teenage angst of many people back then, which is why many of Em's biggest supporters to this day were around 10-17 during his prime(Tyler, The Creator is probably the artist closest to replicating this lyrically).....but that was almost 15 years ago. If we're talking about overall discography or even the artists of now, he isnt close to the top.
However, if we're purely talking about the ability to sell records, which I believe 50 was talking about based on how he kept mentioning sales, then yes, Em is most definitely the best there is in hip hop.
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I don't understand why opinions have to be so simple. The Beastie Boys are not great lyricists but had catchy hooks and their production was always great. Eminem is a great lyricist, but always had shitty hooks and his production after MMLP sucked.
Better?
Also, comparing Eminem with DMX in any way is ridiculous and doesn't deserve comment, let alone the 500 quotes of PD's shitty post.
Better?
Also, comparing Eminem with DMX in any way is ridiculous and doesn't deserve comment, let alone the 500 quotes of PD's shitty post.
IrishNinja
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yeah, i can see why em fans in here would ride for kenny's "I"
2 pages of thread say yes
oh yeah, dude's totally underrated & never comes up in GOAT talk everywhere like ali in boxing threads
okay i can cosign this bit, yeah
damn, nobody asked for this clinic b
this is actually excellent advice right here
i forget, did jay ever go past "im about a dollar/what the fuck's a 50 cent"?
i'm a high level CAC myself and this is one of my favorite pastimes as well
damn, the modern-day "why no 5 mics in the source" right here
true, i can still revisit DMX's first 2 classics without cringing
2 pages of thread say yes
oh yeah, dude's totally underrated & never comes up in GOAT talk everywhere like ali in boxing threads
okay i can cosign this bit, yeah
damn, nobody asked for this clinic b
this is actually excellent advice right here
i forget, did jay ever go past "im about a dollar/what the fuck's a 50 cent"?
i'm a high level CAC myself and this is one of my favorite pastimes as well
damn, the modern-day "why no 5 mics in the source" right here
KRS taught ya'll nothing
true, i can still revisit DMX's first 2 classics without cringing
Blackstarhat
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Eminem isn't even the best white rapper ra the rugged man shits all over him.
Aesop Rock and El-P shit over them both.
IrishNinja
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i was late to the El-P game but damn i love dude
real talk, some of ya'll on about technical gifts should really hit this up
shit makes you feel like you can double your max at the gym, phew
...let's not get crazy now, ya'll already dragged yelawulf's struggle into this mess
real talk, some of ya'll on about technical gifts should really hit this up
shit makes you feel like you can double your max at the gym, phew
...let's not get crazy now, ya'll already dragged yelawulf's struggle into this mess
Eminem's mainstream success in a nutshell.
Pizza Booty
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his music is mom's spaghetti. great beats, rhymes spaghetti. lyrically one of the best spaghetti. 50 cent is right when he says rap is black music but eminem does mom's spaghetti.
Rap game Bill Gates
BKatastrophe
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GeordieMark
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Too whiny. Doesn't matter how good your bars are when the delivery is so annoying.
So does Eyedea (RIP)
And he's not technically as impressive, but I think Slug from Atmosphere has some of the best rhymes lyrically.
Damn straight!
TheHumanoid
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I really can't stand when shit gets categorized as "a black" thing. But to stay on subject Em is just filthy on the mic, no one can touch him. Maybe if Big L or Big were alive though
Feed yo nieces Reeses Pieces while yo nephew tie my sneakers
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Rap is "black" music in that black people largely invented it, just like how Latin people largely created salsa. But just like salsa, it certainly isn't something only black people do. 50 probably didn't think that far, but it's okay; going bankrupt can mess with your normal logic of thinking.
And no, Eminem isn't the best, never was the best, and will never be the best. But it's okay; you're obviously going to be biased to someone you personally spent millions into building up into a star.
And no, Eminem isn't the best, never was the best, and will never be the best. But it's okay; you're obviously going to be biased to someone you personally spent millions into building up into a star.
captainnapalm
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Eminem back in the day did have incredible rhymes. I always just figured maybe the reason I thought it was so good was because I was white and he was white and what he was doing was appealing to me more as a white person.
He's fallen off in a big way, though. I can't listen to him now, just like I can't listen to most modern rap. I thought rap god was atrocious.
He's fallen off in a big way, though. I can't listen to him now, just like I can't listen to most modern rap. I thought rap god was atrocious.
MMaRsu
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Always-honest
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Haha.
Extra Sauce
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He would if he hired a good producer and stayed the fuck out of the control room.
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