I'll cosign this and accept the repercussions.Riff Raff is the best white rapper tbh.
I'll cosign this and accept the repercussions.Riff Raff is the best white rapper tbh.
The 90s was a long time ago. If you've been living under a rock since then, then those people you listed as being the absolute best ends up sounding kind of shortsighted.No one will top De La Soul/Tribe Called Quest/NWA/Public Enemy for me.
I suppose it depends what era you grew up in.
If you're familiar with 50 Cent on even the most basic level you recognize that he is a troll instigator and also views everything through the lens of money and/or success. His shots at Jay-Z in that video expose what his agenda was. He's bigging up his man, I get it. But he's also conflating success with being "the best."
What is Eminem the best at? He was once a great technical rapper but his style is largely mined from Masta Ace and G Rap. Is anyone going to seriously argue Eminem is a better rapper than G Rap? Go ahead so I can laugh at you. 50 is from Queens, he knows better.
Let's look at albums. Does Eminem have a classic album? And if so does he have one that stands up well against the best work of just about any rapper who is considered great? I'm sure there are some 20 year old white people on this forum who would love to wax poetic about why the Marshall Mathers LP is superior to Illmatic or Ready To Die but people who actually listen to hip hop know better.
What about lyrics. Are his similes, methaphors, or storytelling comparable to the greats? Again I'm sure someone here will argue Eminem has surpassed Nas on each of these levels but once again, people who actually listen to hip hop know better.
If Eminem wins any contest it would be the "90s rapper who fell off the hardest" award, and even then he might just share the trophy with DMX (or Prodigy...). Listen to his music today. Yelly, off beat, lyrically embarrassing. He's so obsessed with the the technical aspect of his flow that the beat and tone of the record don't matter to him. It's like listening to someone try to cram a dictionary into a 10 page picture book; after all, what better analogy is there for the cookie cutter production he selects than a picture book.
I really liked Eminem when I was a kid in 1999. But the idea of listening to a man in his 40s rap about raping celebs, pooping on people, etc in 2015 has no appeal to me. Nor do his meaningless, generic "if you work hard you can achieve it" anthems move me. Dude is trash today, admit it and grow the fuck up.
I'll cosign this and accept the repercussions.
Where is the lie
The 90s was a long time ago. If you're been living under a rock since then, then those people you listed as being the absolute best ends up sounding kind of shortsighted.
Illmatic is better than Marshall Mathers LP
It's not.
I'm not white, and I listen to all types of hip-hop. Now, come at me.
If you're familiar with 50 Cent on even the most basic level you recognize that he is a troll instigator and also views everything through the lens of money and/or success. His shots at Jay-Z in that video expose what his agenda was. He's bigging up his man, I get it. But he's also conflating success with being "the best."
What is Eminem the best at? He was once a great technical rapper but his style is largely mined from Masta Ace and G Rap. Is anyone going to seriously argue Eminem is a better rapper than G Rap? Go ahead so I can laugh at you. 50 is from Queens, he knows better.
Let's look at albums. Does Eminem have a classic album? And if so does he have one that stands up well against the best work of just about any rapper who is considered great? I'm sure there are some 20 year old white people on this forum who would love to wax poetic about why the Marshall Mathers LP is superior to Illmatic or Ready To Die but people who actually listen to hip hop know better.
What about lyrics. Are his similes, methaphors, or storytelling comparable to the greats? Again I'm sure someone here will argue Eminem has surpassed Nas on each of these levels but once again, people who actually listen to hip hop know better.
If Eminem wins any contest it would be the "90s rapper who fell off the hardest" award, and even then he might just share the trophy with DMX (or Prodigy...). Listen to his music today. Yelly, off beat, lyrically embarrassing. He's so obsessed with the the technical aspect of his flow that the beat and tone of the record don't matter to him. It's like listening to someone try to cram a dictionary into a 10 page picture book; after all, what better analogy is there for the cookie cutter production he selects than a picture book.
I really liked Eminem when I was a kid in 1999. But the idea of listening to a man in his 40s rap about raping celebs, pooping on people, etc in 2015 has no appeal to me. Nor do his meaningless, generic "if you work hard you can achieve it" anthems move me. Dude is trash today, admit it and grow the fuck up.
putting queensbridge back on the map is a better narrative than "I'm not handling my success too well"
The Chronic is better than either album. So is amerikkka's Most Wanted, Death Certificate, and Ready to Die.Illmatic is better than Marshall Mathers LP
It's not.
I'm not white, and I listen to all types of hip-hop. Now, come at me.
The 90s was a long time ago. If you've been living under a rock since then, then those people you listed as being the absolute best ends up sounding kind of shortsighted.
Illmatic is better than Marshall Mathers LP
It's not.
I'm not white, and I listen to all types of hip-hop. Now, come at me.
putting queensbridge back on the map is a better narrative than "I'm not handling my success too well"
Word, the Eminem show>>>>>never comment on hip hop albums again
MMLP aint even the best Em album
I can't relate to Eminem's music.
Everyone can participate but it still nigga music. Look up culture in the dictionary, music is a part of that.Music is music. Rap is for everyone.
What??I agree with 50. Eminem suffers from being around too long. Which I think in hip hop hurts more than other genre's.
Being number 1 is always subjective, but Eminem is an amazing artist. That can't be denied, he is also still making good music. Not the caliber of his younger days, but still enjoyable.
And some black people hate it. Lmfao. Reminds me of white people taking away from James Brown and rock n roll. I just laugh at the thinly veiled racism/jealousy.
Eminent raps fast and has punchy lines but his lyrics don't have the same weight and substance as Rakim's
The Slim Shady LP is better than everything Nas has done, except maybe illmatic, maybe.
Lol nahThe Slim Shady LP is better than everything Nas has done, except maybe illmatic, maybe.
The Slim Shady LP is better than everything Nas has done, except maybe illmatic, maybe.
http://www.metacritic.com/music/illmatic-xx-20th-anniversary-edition/nas
I know, I know, "critics don't mean anything" and all that stuff.
If you're familiar with 50 Cent on even the most basic level you recognize that he is a troll instigator and also views everything through the lens of money and/or success. His shots at Jay-Z in that video expose what his agenda was. He's bigging up his man, I get it. But he's also conflating success with being "the best."
What is Eminem the best at? He was once a great technical rapper but his style is largely mined from Masta Ace and G Rap. Is anyone going to seriously argue Eminem is a better rapper than G Rap? Go ahead so I can laugh at you. 50 is from Queens, he knows better.
Let's look at albums. Does Eminem have a classic album? And if so does he have one that stands up well against the best work of just about any rapper who is considered great? I'm sure there are some 20 year old white people on this forum who would love to wax poetic about why the Marshall Mathers LP is superior to Illmatic or Ready To Die but people who actually listen to hip hop know better.
What about lyrics. Are his similes, methaphors, or storytelling comparable to the greats? Again I'm sure someone here will argue Eminem has surpassed Nas on each of these levels but once again, people who actually listen to hip hop know better.
If Eminem wins any contest it would be the "90s rapper who fell off the hardest" award, and even then he might just share the trophy with DMX (or Prodigy...). Listen to his music today. Yelly, off beat, lyrically embarrassing. He's so obsessed with the the technical aspect of his flow that the beat and tone of the record don't matter to him. It's like listening to someone try to cram a dictionary into a 10 page picture book; after all, what better analogy is there for the cookie cutter production he selects than a picture book.
I really liked Eminem when I was a kid in 1999. But the idea of listening to a man in his 40s rap about raping celebs, pooping on people, etc in 2015 has no appeal to me. Nor do his meaningless, generic "if you work hard you can achieve it" anthems move me. Dude is trash today, admit it and grow the fuck up.
I agree with 50. Eminem suffers from being around too long. Which I think in hip hop hurts more than other genre's.
Being number 1 is always subjective, but Eminem is an amazing artist. That can't be denied, he is also still making good music. Not the caliber of his younger days, but still enjoyable.
And some black people hate it. Lmfao. Reminds me of white people taking away from James Brown and rock n roll. I just laugh at the thinly veiled racism/jealousy
The Slim Shady LP is better than everything Nas has done, except maybe illmatic, maybe.
The Slim Shady LP is better than everything Nas has done, except maybe illmatic, maybe.
BOYAnd some black people hate it. Lmfao. Reminds me of white people taking away from James Brown and rock n roll. I just laugh at the thinly veiled racism/jealousy.
Maybe Rachel Dolezal was right. Maybe being black isn't about skin color.
It's a "feeling"
....Fergie?Eminem isn't even better than the best white female rapper right now.
Ehh..art is art. In this case one "narrative" isn't better than the other. To me, both were interesting.
Doseone is the best white rapper by far. not even a contest
It's a "feeling"
....Fergie?
I mean, rock was black music too, but 4 pasty white British dudes did it better than anyone else. No one can touch the black R&B singers though, especially the women.
If you're familiar with 50 Cent on even the most basic level you recognize that he is a troll instigator and also views everything through the lens of money and/or success. His shots at Jay-Z in that video expose what his agenda was. He's bigging up his man, I get it. But he's also conflating success with being "the best."
What is Eminem the best at? He was once a great technical rapper but his style is largely mined from Masta Ace and G Rap. Is anyone going to seriously argue Eminem is a better rapper than G Rap? Go ahead so I can laugh at you. 50 is from Queens, he knows better.
Let's look at albums. Does Eminem have a classic album? And if so does he have one that stands up well against the best work of just about any rapper who is considered great? I'm sure there are some 20 year old white people on this forum who would love to wax poetic about why the Marshall Mathers LP is superior to Illmatic or Ready To Die but people who actually listen to hip hop know better.
What about lyrics. Are his similes, methaphors, or storytelling comparable to the greats? Again I'm sure someone here will argue Eminem has surpassed Nas on each of these levels but once again, people who actually listen to hip hop know better.
If Eminem wins any contest it would be the "90s rapper who fell off the hardest" award, and even then he might just share the trophy with DMX (or Prodigy...). Listen to his music today. Yelly, off beat, lyrically embarrassing. He's so obsessed with the the technical aspect of his flow that the beat and tone of the record don't matter to him. It's like listening to someone try to cram a dictionary into a 10 page picture book; after all, what better analogy is there for the cookie cutter production he selects than a picture book.
I really liked Eminem when I was a kid in 1999. But the idea of listening to a man in his 40s rap about raping celebs, pooping on people, etc in 2015 has no appeal to me. Nor do his meaningless, generic "if you work hard you can achieve it" anthems move me. Dude is trash today, admit it and grow the fuck up.
So much truth in this post. Beyond Queens, New York hip hop in general was on the decline because of the West Coast. When Illmatic came out, it was a huge fucking deal compared to The Slim Shady LP, which was more of a controversial appeal because folks never heard nothing like it. Beyond that...it's really not touching Illmatic.
If you're familiar with 50 Cent on even the most basic level you recognize that he is a troll instigator and also views everything through the lens of money and/or success. His shots at Jay-Z in that video expose what his agenda was. He's bigging up his man, I get it. But he's also conflating success with being "the best."
What is Eminem the best at? He was once a great technical rapper but his style is largely mined from Masta Ace and G Rap. Is anyone going to seriously argue Eminem is a better rapper than G Rap? Go ahead so I can laugh at you. 50 is from Queens, he knows better.
Let's look at albums. Does Eminem have a classic album? And if so does he have one that stands up well against the best work of just about any rapper who is considered great? I'm sure there are some 20 year old white people on this forum who would love to wax poetic about why the Marshall Mathers LP is superior to Illmatic or Ready To Die but people who actually listen to hip hop know better.
What about lyrics. Are his similes, methaphors, or storytelling comparable to the greats? Again I'm sure someone here will argue Eminem has surpassed Nas on each of these levels but once again, people who actually listen to hip hop know better.
If Eminem wins any contest it would be the "90s rapper who fell off the hardest" award, and even then he might just share the trophy with DMX (or Prodigy...). Listen to his music today. Yelly, off beat, lyrically embarrassing. He's so obsessed with the the technical aspect of his flow that the beat and tone of the record don't matter to him. It's like listening to someone try to cram a dictionary into a 10 page picture book; after all, what better analogy is there for the cookie cutter production he selects than a picture book.
I really liked Eminem when I was a kid in 1999. But the idea of listening to a man in his 40s rap about raping celebs, pooping on people, etc in 2015 has no appeal to me. Nor do his meaningless, generic "if you work hard you can achieve it" anthems move me. Dude is trash today, admit it and grow the fuck up.