eastx
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Or you could be a grownup and download the updates, I guess.
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Rare Replay |OT| Jetpacks and Googly Eyes, Here We Come
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Or you could be a grownup and download the updates, I guess.
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MightyHedgehog
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It's exactly like the N64 version, AFAICT. The audio and subtitles are both selectively censored in the original, but nothing as strictly bleeped as the Live and Reloaded was.
Version 3.0
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Of course, I did. Just not right away. You could be an adult and realize there are situations where that's not possible or preferred.
But that's not the point. Why the hell isn't this a self-contained, working product on the disc? At some point in the future, there will be circumstances where this game won't work properly. But it could have been easily avoided.
I was remoted into work at the time and didn't want to bog down my connection, so I waited until I was done to download the update. Is that explanation satisfactory? There are people with worse conditions to deal with, such as caps, metered usage, or even people <gasp> without internet access, or constant access.
matrixman92
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In Lunar Jetman, if you constantly get in and out of the rover it moves up by like a centimeter. I am spamming Y over and over again to progress over broken ground. It will get the job done..eventually. I fear for what the snapshots are
Outtrigger888
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The collection is kinda a mess with the 360 games having there own panels and the patch. I declined the patch so I could install the game and play while the patch was downloading. Lo and behold I never got prompted to patch the game and didn't realize it downloaded until I looked at my bandwidth usage. I'm still really enjoying the collection though.
daTRUballin
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Is there a specific reason why the Xbox version was more censored than the N64 version? It just makes no sense. Whose decision was it to censor it?
MightyHedgehog
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Not sure why or who was the one to decide, but it seemed especially ridiculous considering just how tame and relatively pedestrian the original game's bawdiness and language was by the time the remake hit on a platform which hosted titles with much more openly raw content that sold millions.
JED BARTLETT
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DJ_Lae
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Played Blast Corps for about 20 minutes so far, have completed roughly six levels and bonus levels.
Crashed three times on me. It's frustrating, as I had forgotten how much I loved the game, but now I'm on edge for an eventual (and not far off) crash every time I boot it up. I'll have to put it aside until it's patched.
Crashed three times on me. It's frustrating, as I had forgotten how much I loved the game, but now I'm on edge for an eventual (and not far off) crash every time I boot it up. I'll have to put it aside until it's patched.
Save at the beginning of every level and load when you die..?
daTRUballin
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I remember reading somewhere that stores like Wal-Mart refused to sell Live and Reloaded, so MS/Rare censored the game so stores won't be reluctant to sell it or something like that. That might not be true, or I might be remembering what I read wrong. I don't know.
AndyMoogle
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It seems that Battletoads just glitched for me and I probably have to restart the game (yeah, right, as if that's going to happen).
I'm on level 9 in the pipes and looking at a walkthrough it seems that the cog was supposed to go with me down the pipe so that it could destroy the pillar that's in my way. Well, that didn't happen and I can't go back up again, so I'm stuck.
I'm on level 9 in the pipes and looking at a walkthrough it seems that the cog was supposed to go with me down the pipe so that it could destroy the pillar that's in my way. Well, that didn't happen and I can't go back up again, so I'm stuck.
Happy to see so many people enjoying Conker as well as the rest of these great games. As for Seavor's comments I have to say I appreciate someone who is honest and isn't stuck in the past. I'd say its much more honorable than someone who believes they can always make something bigger and better. It's only natural to have moved on and be in a different place than you were when you were younger.
Unrelated, but fuck Clinger Winger. It's a bunch of bullshit and I speant an hour and a half on that piece of crap. The controls are broken and whoever designed that level is an asshole.
Unrelated, but fuck Clinger Winger. It's a bunch of bullshit and I speant an hour and a half on that piece of crap. The controls are broken and whoever designed that level is an asshole.
I'm surprised. I'm not feeling this collection at all. I had no burning interest in Rare's older stuff so I was primarily in for Conker and Jet Force Gemini. Very disappointed to see that they don't run at a locked framerate. The 360 titles also have issues with their emulation, although to be fair that isn't Rare's fault. Still, I can't help but feel like this collection would have been better served with true remasters of these games instead of what we received. Would Rare have been able to make it to their 30th anniversary in time if they had elected to go this route? Probably not. But how nicer would it have been for their longtime fans to see Rare's games running in the best possible light?
At the moment, my favorite things about Rare Replay are the unlockable documentaries and video snippets into Rare's history and development process. They're very well done and I applaud Rare for including them. However, I do think the chosen method of earning stamps to unlock these videos is a bit counterintuitive to the philosophy of assembling a curated museum of all things Rare. These extras will eventually be made available for viewing on YouTube (if they haven't already), so having to unlock them seems a bit cheap. I don't see myself extracting any real sense of achievement out of unlocking them and I can't imagine many people doing so either. I therefore believe they should have been made available to players from the very start.
All things considered, my opinion of this collection is beginning to sour very quickly. Returning to the emulation troubles, they really are the biggest flaw of this collection. The quality of the thirty games (from resolution to framerate, to overall stability and bugginess) covers such an uneven range as to make the whole product seem rather slipshod. Many of the individual games in this collection are quite good in and of themselves, so the feelings that I have expressed here do not impact my perception of them in the slightest.
I would not currently recommend Rare Replay on the basis of its quality as a complete product but rather on the strength of a few games included therein.
At the moment, my favorite things about Rare Replay are the unlockable documentaries and video snippets into Rare's history and development process. They're very well done and I applaud Rare for including them. However, I do think the chosen method of earning stamps to unlock these videos is a bit counterintuitive to the philosophy of assembling a curated museum of all things Rare. These extras will eventually be made available for viewing on YouTube (if they haven't already), so having to unlock them seems a bit cheap. I don't see myself extracting any real sense of achievement out of unlocking them and I can't imagine many people doing so either. I therefore believe they should have been made available to players from the very start.
All things considered, my opinion of this collection is beginning to sour very quickly. Returning to the emulation troubles, they really are the biggest flaw of this collection. The quality of the thirty games (from resolution to framerate, to overall stability and bugginess) covers such an uneven range as to make the whole product seem rather slipshod. Many of the individual games in this collection are quite good in and of themselves, so the feelings that I have expressed here do not impact my perception of them in the slightest.
I would not currently recommend Rare Replay on the basis of its quality as a complete product but rather on the strength of a few games included therein.
daTRUballin
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It's a level in Battletoads (NES) where you navigate around these roads on a motorcycle thing and it's unforgiving as fuck.
daTRUballin
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Yeah, I was guessing it was from Battletoads. Never played the game, but I know the game is unforgiving in general.
Was finishing up a few Snapshot challenges earlier tonight, and the game crashed on me several times. Odd that it never happened when I was playing the game for review last week and over the weekend. I guess I should be happy it would crash after I completed the Snapshot challenge.
I hope they add an option to invert the x/y-axis in games (if the option isn't already there). The camera control in Blast Corps keeps throwing me off
And there's also the forced inverted y-axis for manual aiming in Jet Force Gemini, but I assume they'll fix that with the alternate control patch?
And there's also the forced inverted y-axis for manual aiming in Jet Force Gemini, but I assume they'll fix that with the alternate control patch?
Fortinbras
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I give up. I just can't get my Xbox to install the game properly. At first I couldn't install Jetpac Refueled. After reinstalling and hard rebooting several times the game finally showed up in my library.
Now I can't launch any 360 games from the Rare Replay menu. The game says that there aren't any 360 games installed and takes me to the store.
On the store page I can select Play and start playing the selected 360 game.
The "hold menu to close game and go back to Rare Replay" trick also won't work on any 360 game like it should.
All of the installed games are the Rare Replay versions and all games have their updates installed.
Now I can't launch any 360 games from the Rare Replay menu. The game says that there aren't any 360 games installed and takes me to the store.
On the store page I can select Play and start playing the selected 360 game.
The "hold menu to close game and go back to Rare Replay" trick also won't work on any 360 game like it should.
All of the installed games are the Rare Replay versions and all games have their updates installed.
I have never got past the snow level (level 4) before this rewind feature, Even with rewind and infinite lives I just can not get Clinger Winger down.Yeah, I was guessing it was from Battletoads. Never played the game, but I know the game is unforgiving in general.
Sorry if I overreacted a bit
.Version 3.0
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Yes. It's almost paradoxical how Nintendo would allow content that Microsoft wouldn't, and a generation earlier at that. Brings to mind the BMX XXX situation, although that game is better off forgotten.
SilverArrow20XX
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Well, that'll work if I'm feeling super hardcore and want to beat each level on 1 life lol. After using a continue you get to start the level fresh with 3 lives. Basically, I want to conquer each level with that 3 life limit. Barring 1-ups, you only get 12 lives for the whole 13 level game as is.
MightyHedgehog
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I think that only works for games built directly into Rare Replay app/game launcher, basically everything outside of the X360 games or the XBLA ports of B-K, B-T, and PD.
Did you already press A on them in the My games and apps section to ensure they've properly 'installed' so that RR can see them? Many of those games weren't launchable for me there until went into that section of the OS and manually finished the installations for each one, one at a time.
daTRUballin
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I have never got past the snow level (level 4) before this rewind feature, Even with rewind and infinite lives I just can not get Clinger Winger down.
Sorry if I overreacted a bit
It's fine. I guess Battletoads can do that to you.
Your little rant about Clinger Winger was funny anyway, that's why I responded.
MightyHedgehog
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It wasn't a locked 30fps, no, just like all of Rare's retail games on X360. It seems to run a bit lower on X1, currently, though. Clearly, MS and Rare have some way to go in getting the emulation to match the original hardware perfectly.
Fortinbras
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It also works with 360 games. It worked for me when Jetpac Refueled wasn't installed.
All 360 games are launchable from my games library.
MightyHedgehog
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Wow, just checked and now it works when it didn't before, though it does take a mite bit longer to kick in.
That's weird. RR has definitely been the most random and stop-start-afflicted package to install and get working smoothly, I'll say.
bloodyroarxx
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Yup, people always get mad at Turbo Tunnel cause they never got past it but the bullshit doesnt stop there.
AndyMoogle
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I found out that you can warp to level 8 in no time in Battletoads, so I'm back on level 9. This time I'm saving at the start of the level.
matrixman92
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im actually having heaps of trouble with snapshot 5.
ss_lemonade
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It works, as long as Rare Replay actually launches the 360 game I guess. Earlier I tried loading Jetpack Refuelled and it just took me to the store page with a Play button. Game would play fine but I could not get back to Rare Replay with the menu button anymore.
By the way, anyone notice how the 360 interface (like when managing cloud saves) seems to run in a lower resolution? It actually looks like it drops the entire screen's resolution, which is noticeable when bringing up the Rare Replay exit loading bar while a 360 screen is up. I wonder if that's just a quirk of the 360 emulator/virtual machine
Waluigilicious
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I just bought the console and this game, and on the menus the dpad seems unresponsive. I have to press it hard for it to move left or right consistently.
Actually now that I think about it it's similar for the xbox dashboard too.. is this normal?
Actually now that I think about it it's similar for the xbox dashboard too.. is this normal?
Hmm... your right. Well, I tried.
AndyMoogle
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The 360 dashboard is 720p.
I think it's a known issue with the new redesigned controller.
Yep, like Volkmire's Inferno and Terra Tubes.
Digital. It did it first literally on the intro to the game - hadn't even started the first level. I thought it was just one of those pauses from a video review I saw, but it didn't recover. Long press on the menu button lets you quit and quickly restart, but if it happens in the middle of a level it is annoying.
I recently went thru and played conker on N64 a few months ago and can absolutely confirm that this is a spot on port. Well the only thing that isnt the same is the visual changes for button ques (ie the game audio will say press 'Z', but a L bumper icon will appear on screen).
Everything else, visuals, swearing etc is all there.
Everything else, visuals, swearing etc is all there.
Waluigilicious
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Oh ok thank you. I suppose I can live with that since PD doesn't require the dpad.
Have Microsoft said anything about this?