KennyLinder
Member
Just reading this. Huge difference in scores between EG and other sites. I am guessing the reviewer really doesn't like the model
Real Racing 3: It's the Sim Racer You've Always Wanted On Your Phone/Tablet
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Just reading this. Huge difference in scores between EG and other sites. I am guessing the reviewer really doesn't like the model
TwiztidElf
Member
I play this for a little while every day. Up to level 13, and quite enjoying it.
Having Mt Panorama/Bathurst on there is awesome.
EA will not get a cent out of me. Mark my words.
Having Mt Panorama/Bathurst on there is awesome.
EA will not get a cent out of me. Mark my words.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Yikes at the Eurogamer review. A huge contrast to IGNs.
Assuming those numbers are accurate examples (and I suspect they are), that's savage.Eurogamer said:
Cant install it, not compatible with my Xperia S
I feel your pain and I'm using an iPhone 4. It's been sat on 'installing' for more than an hour.
WOW. just ... WOW.
The EA machine is disgusting. Having read the Eurogamer article I am horrified.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-28-real-racing-3-review
"If games like Dota and Tribes are the warm, welcoming faces of free-to-play, then Real Racing 3 is the grotesque polar opposite, the snarling grinch that's the embodiment of every sceptic's worst nightmare. It's cynical, it's nasty and it's hard-wired into the very fabric of the game, making it totally unavoidable.
There's an in-game economy comprised of credits and the harder-to-come-by gold, which would be fair enough if the economy wasn't so horrendously lopsided in EA's favour. Every part of Real Racing's make-up away from the track is a transaction where you're on the rough end of the deal.
There's a good game somewhere within Real Racing 3 - and there are plenty of free-to-play games that prove this model can work successfully while respecting the player. Firemonkeys, and perhaps more pertinently EA, have got that balance horribly, horribly wrong, to an extent where the business model becomes the game - with gut-wrenching results.
Let's finish with a little maths. You notice the car you've just bought in a £13.99 pack is suspiciously slow in races, so you want to acquire the first of three engine upgrades that costs 44,000 credits. If you get 3500 credits for winning a race after getting tail-ended just once by another car, get handed a 2855 credit repair bill for the damage and then have to pay another 500 credits to get the oil changed - a job that takes 20 minutes to do, unless you want to hand over a little more cash - what's the final number?"
The EA machine is disgusting. Having read the Eurogamer article I am horrified.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-28-real-racing-3-review
"If games like Dota and Tribes are the warm, welcoming faces of free-to-play, then Real Racing 3 is the grotesque polar opposite, the snarling grinch that's the embodiment of every sceptic's worst nightmare. It's cynical, it's nasty and it's hard-wired into the very fabric of the game, making it totally unavoidable.
There's an in-game economy comprised of credits and the harder-to-come-by gold, which would be fair enough if the economy wasn't so horrendously lopsided in EA's favour. Every part of Real Racing's make-up away from the track is a transaction where you're on the rough end of the deal.
There's a good game somewhere within Real Racing 3 - and there are plenty of free-to-play games that prove this model can work successfully while respecting the player. Firemonkeys, and perhaps more pertinently EA, have got that balance horribly, horribly wrong, to an extent where the business model becomes the game - with gut-wrenching results.
Let's finish with a little maths. You notice the car you've just bought in a £13.99 pack is suspiciously slow in races, so you want to acquire the first of three engine upgrades that costs 44,000 credits. If you get 3500 credits for winning a race after getting tail-ended just once by another car, get handed a 2855 credit repair bill for the damage and then have to pay another 500 credits to get the oil changed - a job that takes 20 minutes to do, unless you want to hand over a little more cash - what's the final number?"
Chiaroscuro
Member
Not compatible with my Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9? What it is deal? It is a Tegra2 device...
Diablohead
Member
Been playing since the NZ release 2 weeks ago, level 38 and still on version 1.0.0 which means all the cool downs are really low still, for some reason only the later versions are adjusted to be longer again while the original build is at 5 minute oil and 30 minute tire changes 
Of course it means I can't buy credits but who would, rip off central in this game.
The racing and graphics are superb for a mobile platform, the AI needs some improvements as they just drive set lines and do nothing to avoid you, but i'm having my fun with it.
The moment I have to forcefully use long cooldown timers i'm out.
Of course it means I can't buy credits but who would, rip off central in this game.
The racing and graphics are superb for a mobile platform, the AI needs some improvements as they just drive set lines and do nothing to avoid you, but i'm having my fun with it.
The moment I have to forcefully use long cooldown timers i'm out.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Downloading it to my 4S I am afraid of how terrible it will run
Diablohead
Member
Find the apk file online somewhere or get it from someone, since it's a free to play game it should be ok.
My old galaxy ace said on google play that nothing ran on it, however most of the stuff did, just poorly or slightly glitched.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Downloading it to my 4S I am afraid of how terrible it will run
It runs fine on my 4S.
Turned all assists off and playing on Control B. Fun, but takes some time to get used to since gyroscopic controls have always been a weird area for me.
Cant install it, not compatible with my Xperia S
Huh, that's odd. Works on my Xperia S. What firmware are you on?
Yikes! 3/10 I seriously don't know why two versions could not have been made. Made a free 2 play and charge $9.99 for the full version or something.
This way people can try it and pay for what they want to play races $1-10 $.99 races 10-20 $.099 or something instead of all this downtime and timer shit..
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I've gotta figure out what control scheme I'm going to go with. Going to experiment with the other options when I play later this evening.
Diablohead
Member
It's a blend of sim and arcade, the car's feel sim like and grip levels are not as forgiving as some games but then there is no real wheel slip or torque steer or anything like that, just a loose tail end if you push it too much in a corner, it's not too forgiving.
-Amon-
Member
How can you call anything a sim racer if it's tought out to be driven via accelerometer ( or gamepads for what it's worth ) ?
Diablohead
Member
I see sim racing as as real as it can get with how the car handles, now what instument is used to handle it, If that is what you mean.
Gyro steering in mobile games is great anyway, it feels more like driving a car then with a stick to me.
-Amon-
Member
You can't judge how a simulated car handles without using a peripheral that mimics it's real life counterpart ( aka steering wheel and pedals )
At least the thread opener shoul call things with their names.
Man, it really looks awful on Android devices. :\
The game is a lot better than I expected. I actually hated the previous games but this one is decent fun and feels well made. They've also cleaned up the framerate (which used to microstutter like crazy on all devices) and now it's fairly consistent.
Incredible looking visuals as well.
The game is a lot better than I expected. I actually hated the previous games but this one is decent fun and feels well made. They've also cleaned up the framerate (which used to microstutter like crazy on all devices) and now it's fairly consistent.
Incredible looking visuals as well.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I'm telling you Android people if you can toggle on MSAA in your Android system settings if you can.
Still haven't managed to install it on my iPhone 4. Suspect it's a disk space issue. It just hangs during the install.
So GT5 with a wheel is a 'sim' but with a pad it's 'arcade'? Even though the physics being modelled are identical? Is it a 'sim' if you're using a sequential shifter on a car that normally has an h-gate shifter? Do you need a clutch pedal?
I dunno man. I see what you're driving at (ho ho!), but I think most people know what is meant by 'sim' when referring to racing games.
So GT5 with a wheel is a 'sim' but with a pad it's 'arcade'? Even though the physics being modelled are identical? Is it a 'sim' if you're using a sequential shifter on a car that normally has an h-gate shifter? Do you need a clutch pedal?
I dunno man. I see what you're driving at (ho ho!), but I think most people know what is meant by 'sim' when referring to racing games.
-Amon-
Member
One point is that if i can't drive it with a wheel there is no way to know if it has an handling that has some resembreance with the real thing.
I can do that ( and fully appreciate the game ) in Gt5. Not going to start a debate about how GT5 should be labeled here, however.
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Another point is that if a given game has no wheel support, there is no need to put up a complex engine, the user has no means to appreciate it.
I just think you're looking way too deep into a simple label. Racers tend to be lumped into 'sim' or 'arcade' and neither label is 100% accurate, ever. Well, unless you're playing some crazy-ass PC software in a huge hydraulic rig or on a literal arcade cabinet in an actual arcade.
RR3 errs on the side of 'serious'. There are no nitro collectables, jumps or weapons. There is no 'powerslide' button. They are attempting to accurately simulate racing as well as they can within the limitations of the device.
I disagree. I totally appreciated the engine in GT PSP and that was played with a stubby little stick. The difference between arcade physics and professional physics was night and day.
First place in a cup match is earning me ~19K now.
You get a big cash bonus for competing in events your friends have completed and passing their posted time.
If you enter a race, fuck up, and then have to repair right after... yeah, things can be bad. But I've never felt stuck or felt like I wasn't making progress.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Ah awesome, gives me some hope then.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Downloading at the moment, it's taking awhile.
-Amon-
Member
To each his own. For me label "simulation" has a certain significance and it itches my nose when used improperly ( by my and many other standards ).
GT PSP a sim ? I enjoyed it too a lot but the simple fact that there are two different handling models does not put it in the sim category at all.
-bakalhau-
Member
That was the first thing I did after playing for 30 seconds. Tegra 3 doesn't support MSAA
Aliasing is turning the game from 'wow' to 'how awful is the aliasing... could've been so much better, thanks Nvidia'.I do get 45-60 fps, mostly in the 55-60 range... So hurray for performance I guess...
Edit: Nexus 7.
Reckless Onion
Member
hows that tablet treating you? i just got confirmation mine is on its the way.. i would have bought the new one but it has lots of wifi problems and battery life is way less because of a new type of screen and the firmware isn't the greatest.
Betta Lines
Member
Bahahahahaha. What a joke the Real Racing series is. Must be running at no more than 20fps on my iPad 3. Physics still awful. Ugh. I am disgusted at how popular this game is.
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GT PSP has the most realistic handling of any handheld game I've ever played. It's the closest thing to a handheld sim, yes.
The reason they didn't do this is because of the horrible way F2P actually works.
Less than 1% of the people who play the game actually pay any decent amount of money for it. However, the amount these morons spend makes them a ton more money than if they sold the game for $10 complete to everyone.
That is why F2P is extremely scary. They are bascially making a game for rich idiots which constitute less than 1% of the people that play the game.
And, as stated, they make more money on this tiny percentage than charging everyone a base price for the complete game. What this means is they have zero reason to ever make a game that doesn't have this draconian model as they would lose money on it.
It's a terrible state, and if this game succeeds, we're going to be seeing every major publisher going down this road.
seattle6418
Member
Thanks for putting Porsche on a crappy mobile game and not letting us have it in real sim racing games. Thanks EA!
Translation: burn in hell.
Translation: burn in hell.
Snkfanatic
Banned
It's already happening really, luckily there are examples of good F2P games (at least on PC so far) games like Path of Exile and Planetside 2 have done it pretty well. Also the way Valve has handled Team Fortress 2 and it's switch to F2P isn't bad.
I haven't played this yet but reading impressions on how it is done is rather shameful.
chickdigger802
Banned
Wait there is no real server check right? I guess I should just keep on playing the NZ version 1.0 until it stop working for the reduced repair times until a content patch.
How long are your repair times? On the newest version I only have to wait 5 minutes.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Isn't the mini just a smaller iPad2? With the same resolution which means the smaller physical size of the screen doesn't also result in better performance? If that's so, I guess people have extremely different definitions for what "pretty good" is.
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