Moses85
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Imagine buying a PS5 Pro and not being able to play decades old PlayStation games
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Digital Foundry: Bloodborne PC Emulation - 60FPS/Mods Tested - The Remaster We've Always Wanted?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Outside of your filtered criteria, they've done a lot of general emulation videos as well, including running emulators on Xbox consoles, all the Retro stuff etc.
That's not the impression your posts give.
Pandawan
Member
This decades old game runs at 240p 11 FPS even on PS5 (i am not even exagurating that much, last time i booted Bloodborne on PS5 it was pain to endure), so yeah, a good PC offers the unique opportunity to play Boodborne sharp and smooth enoughImagine buying a 5090 to play decades old PlayStation games
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You asked how there would be coverage since nobody cares about emulation of xbox games. I said coverage would work in the same way by comparing emulation on PC as "this is what BC might possibly look like on xbox" for those games. Much like how this incomplete project is somehow an indication of "how a remaster might look like" on console.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
You're insane.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Yeah, it’s perfectly playable on ps4
Don’t need to go to extremes to disparage the original version, it wouldn’t be a beloved game if it was 11fps
It's complete nonsense. The game is a fixed 1080p (not even dynamic) . Doesn't really go lower than 30fps on a PS4 let alone a PS5. How would a PS5 drop to 11fps when it's running at a much higher fps than PS4 but capped to 30?
"I'm not exagurating(sic) much", lol.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Was about to have some chips! Thanks for all the salt.
proandrad
Member
They have offered a $10 upgrade for the rest of their first party ps4 to ps5 upgraded games.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Notice how all of the PS4 emulation coverage is Bloodborne? I think it’s one of the rare PS4 AAA games that received no patch or performance updates whatsoever despite being the most acclaimed title on the platform.
I honestly wouldn’t care all that much about the emulated version if there was an upgraded BC version on PS5 and I suspect many others wouldn’t either and you wouldn’t see as much buzz and fanfare.
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I can’t believe Nixxes doesn’t spend a day to just unlock it
Pandawan
Member
It is not me insane it is you just can't read or can't understand jokes. You forgot to outline the words "that much". which i explicitly added for people like you who would not get it. to express that i am exagurating. to show with such absurd example how badly soapy this game feels, so this exagurated example feels like not very far from true.
and you still managed to not get it.
If you can stand soapy, bluury, grainy image it is playable. But you standarts at this regard has to be veeeery low. I am not very picky but Bloodborne on PS5 is so blurry even i can't play it like that.
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Cyberpunkd
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Wait, want this game one of these that have game mechanics linked to frame rate, so running it above 30 breaks some gameplay elements?
Solarstrike
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Yeah...nah. Ain't nobody using my pc for mining yo.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
We’ll never know the exact reason, but if Yoshida’s feelings are anything to go by, Bloodborne at 30fps might just be it for the console version. Miyazaki will almost certainly not be revisiting it for a remake. I vaguely remember him stating he didn’t care about them or that he didn’t like revisiting old projects or something.
NeverYouMind
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Yeah...nah. Ain't nobody using my pc for mining yo.
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Solarstrike
Member
These files are found in the emulator files. Not sure why they would be there. Anyone want to chime in?
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FeralEcho
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The same way you're using your disc drive on your 700$ PS5 Pro.Lemme guess, you bought these games and are using the disc drive on your pc right?
Astray
Member
There are provisions in the DMCA for transformative content, including for education purposes etc, which they can use to fight back against Nintendo's DMCA takedowns.
Simple fact is, they didn't do it because they don't want to.
It's in the ShadPS4 github, see the link below:
shadPS4/cmake at main · shadps4-emu/shadPS4
PlayStation 4 emulator for Windows, Linux and macOS written in C++ - shadps4-emu/shadPS4
github.com
Now I wonder why the piracy app is trying to find a cryptomining thing or another..?
So you more than halved the actual fps and quartered the res and said "I'm not exaggerating much" to show you're using an absurd example? Ok
Which is fair enough but there are plenty of games like that on xbox too dating back to even the original xbox. Halo 5 hasn't got a PC release either and Halo 5 forge on PC was a demonstration of what a possible actual PC release might look like when not held down by the crappy xbox one.
Solarstrike
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Zathalus
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Are y'all like new to the internet or something?
Nintendo has DMCA requested various youtube channels showing emulation, setup guides etc in the very recent past. Things which have nothing to do with piracy.
Nintendo DMCAs Switch Emulation Hobbyist YouTube Channel
So by now, assuming you’ve spent any decent amount of time reading Techdirt, you likely know that Nintendo has a reputation for being aggressive and litigious when it comes to intellectual pr…
www.techdirt.com
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NeverYouMind
Member
Looking into it, the emulator uses cryptography standard libraries likely for accessing encrypted data.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I don’t need to, I own Bloodborne digitally
Where can you buy Bloodborne digitally on pc?
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
100% this. I have never emulate to pirate. I emulate to play the best versions of games.
Draugoth
Gold Member
Emulation requires a powerful CPU, rather than a GPU.
So if you have anything above a 12900K it should be crisp
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Astray
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All these videos you are talking about are piracy advocacy and tutorial videos that are masquerading as educational ones. Piracy of modern platform software (like Switch 1 and PS4) has been masquerading as emulation for a while now when it's clearly not.Are y'all like new to the internet or something?
Nintendo has DMCA requested various youtube channels showing emulation, setup guides etc in the very recent past. Things which have nothing to do with piracy.
Nintendo DMCAs Switch Emulation Hobbyist YouTube Channel
So by now, assuming you’ve spent any decent amount of time reading Techdirt, you likely know that Nintendo has a reputation for being aggressive and litigious when it comes to intellectual pr…
However, DF specifically can make a video that only focuses on performance analysis and how the code works etc without including how to bypass Nintendo's encryption and it would likely pass through. IGN/Eurogamer has a legal department that can be called on to review any materials before posting.
Solarstrike
Member
Thanks man.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
What makes you think Nintendo or their lawyers would give a damn, especially as they have openly said they consider emulation illegal.
The only reason this video exists is because Sony isn't as anal about it and doesn't file DMCA takedowns, the day they do, you won't see this kind of video on DF anymore either.
FeralEcho
Member
I own the physical disc of Bloodborne on PS4,I don't need to.
But this isn't Bloodborne, it's the remaster of it which is not available for purchase anywhere which would classify it as abandonware. And abandonware is free as far as I know.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Bloodborne scales badly with resolution on ShadPS4. It takes a monster GPU for 4K60. Even the 4090 doesn’t come close.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
My 9800X3D should do fine. High resolutions in emulation still have an impact on the GPU as well.
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I own the physical disc of Bloodborne on PS4,I don't need to.
But this isn't Bloodborne, it's the remaster of it which is not available for purchase anywhere which would classify it as abandonware. And abandonware is free as far as I know.
It’s a mod project
It’s not an official product
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Pandawan
Member
You remind me of Kanye West from the episode of South Park where he just would not get it.
I explicitly picked THE NUMBERS SO ABSURD it would be obvious for anyone that i am not telling them seriously. And still someone found who stuck to these numbers. You really believe anyone would say 240p 11 fps seriously? PS1 games had higher res.
I guess i needed to say 60p 3 FPS so maybe everyone will get it. Or probably you still wouldn't. And you still would be like: "Man you 1/10 ed the actual resoution"
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Solarstrike
Member
Smh, Sony has really dropped the ball lately. Hundreds of millions of dollars seemingly wasted last few years on cancelled projects. Yet they have a game here, with Bloodborne, gathering dust which is a guaranteed cash printing machine on PC (and elsewhere!). Sell it for $39.99 with the DLC/expansion included. It's 2025 gotta stay alive, Sony
Astray
Member
It's not about Nintendo giving a damn or not, the YT system gives you a way to dispute their strikes if they do happen under the DMCA Law.
And DF are part of the biggest gaming media conglomerate now (and used to be part of one of the biggest ones before they got sold to IGN), they have access to in-house legal representation that can review the video before publishing, and can fight to keep the video up if a strike comes in without taking time from the channel crew.
Even in the worst-case scenario (the video getting struck), the strike would expire some time later if it's their 1st.
There are no lethal repercussions for them, they are not some small-time Youtuber that can't fight back, they simply just don't want to do it for reasons.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That big media conglomerate relies on exclusives and the ability to gain coverage along with, or before most other outlets, to drive its business.
Why would they be stupid enough to risk getting blacklisted by Nintendo? That's just a needless risk no one in their sane mind would take.
This whole tangent of trying to drag DF because they don't fall for the obvious bear-trap is so bizarre, you guys.
Holammer
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Same with DriveClub and Gran Turismo 7. I suspect they will be next big thing for ShadPS4.Smh, Sony has really dropped the ball lately. Hundreds of millions of dollars seemingly wasted last few years on cancelled projects. Yet they have a game here, with Bloodborne, gathering dust which is a guaranteed cash printing machine on PC (and elsewhere!). Sell it for $39.99 with the DLC/expansion included. It's 2025 gotta stay alive, Sony
People will mod them to perfection.
Astray
Member
You're saying this when they just advertised a current-platform emulator despite getting access to Cerny and advanced access to PSSR stuff.
This is clearly not part of their thinking at all. Or does Sony not have lawyers too?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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If Sony was prone to DMCA emulation videos on youtube, this video would not exist.
I don't understand what part of this is that hard to understand.
Astray
Member
They can become prone at a moment's notice.
The idea is if you want to make a risky video, you make one and have your legal dept review it beforehand. It's not a complex process.
Nintendo generally only goes after things they know they can take down, it's part of what built up their legal team's aura.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
And if/when they do, these videos stop. Simple.
And what makes you think that hasn't crossed DF's mind or their video pitches over the year(s) ?
Nintendo forced Garry's Mod, an extremely well established thing, to take down 20 years worth of content.
If I were running DF's content, I wouldn't risk making content that I know will 99% guarantee a DMCA request.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
"might literally be"According to the OP…It’s the
Krappadizzle
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I'm just here for the Salt. And it is flowing.
Sentenza
Member
Lemme guess, you bought these games and are using the disc drive on your pc right?
Speaking of which...
Is there any way to download a digital copy of the game I bought on a PS4 Pro on PC directly from my Sony account?
Or do I need to rely on the, uh, alternate methods.
This is a very good example of the type of video I was mentioning to
Gaiff
that would cover xbox emulation. They compare Xenia (an xbox emulator) to XB backwards compatibility. Bizarrely though they waited a whole 8 years after RDR came to xbox BC to actually do it. They waited until only last year, when PS4 and Switch got a remaster that xbox didn't, go figure.