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[adamsapple]

Probably the reason this is coming to Switch and no bespoke 'remastering' is being done.

 

[Hypereides]

Shark cards ruined this company.

This dude did that.

He cleared house at Rockstar for any of that vile "counter culture" and took away the "bite" they were known for. They've purely become an extension of 2K's bidding.

 

[squidilix]

Probably the reason this is coming to Switch and no bespoke 'remastering' is being done.

Yeah, this is the first time Nintendo users playing GTA 3. Congrats.

 

[Scotty W]

You've had thirteen years, why now?

Just to elaborate, I have a low cost life, and most of the major releases have been played while house sitting since about 2010, or on borrowed consoles while travelling.

This includes:

GTA V
Mario Galaxy 1&2 and Odyssey
Botw and Skyward Sword
Bioshock Infinite
Fallout NV
Half Life Eps
Portal 2
And a few others

To make up for it, I played a huge amount of Doom 2 wads on my ancient computer.

 

[intbal]

Don't know if anyone posted this video already.
Side by side comparison of Switch trailer and X360 version running at 4K.



This is not the 360 or PS3 version. There are definite enhancements to shadows (foliage self-shadowing on Switch version) and what appears to be a different ambient occlusion method. Considering the much lower resolution of Switch, I think it holds up really well to the 4K visuals.

 

[PanzerCute]

Fifty. Bucks.

Yeah you can go f*** yourself, Rockstar.

Vertically.

With shattered glass.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I have no memory of that. Their PC releases have always beem either delayed or broken. Sometimes both.

What was broken from them?

 

[charles8771]

What was broken from them?

GTA 4 was unoptimized and poorly coded, However it was posible to run at max settings in 2009 with GTX 285



High end PCs of 2008 struggle to run it

 

[Roufianos]

Stfu

Forcing console war narrative into the thread is classy.

Is he wrong though? Rockstar obviously couldn't get away with charging $50 for a lazy port if Sony weren't so lazy on the back compat front.

 

[rodrigolfp]

GTA 4 was unoptimized and poorly coded, However it was posible to run at max settings in 2009 with GTX 285



High end PCs of 2008 struggle to run it

Running poorly =/= broken.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Is he wrong though? Rockstar obviously couldn't get away with charging $50 for a lazy port if Sony weren't so lazy on the back compat front.

Nintendo are the kings of charging you full price for their Wii ports. But only Sony tho when it comes to wars.

 

[Ozrimandias]

Gone and buried are the days when Rockstar released a gem year after year. Remember when :

In 2006 Vice City Stories
In 2007 Manhunt 2
In 2008 GTAIV
In 2009 It's DLC
In 2010 Red Dead Redemption
In 2011 La Noire
In 2012 Max Payne 3
In 2013 GTAV

And Then....only RDR2 and crappy ports. In 10 years. I'm totally fine with RDR2 but port after port after port.

 

[Dorfdad]

Still shaking my head at the decision process here. However I have faith in the modding community that the switch version within a month will be 4k/60 on emulators. Similar to Zelda and many other game which are fantastic on PC.

Side by side comparison of Switch trailer and X360 version running at 4K.



This is not the 360 or PS3 version. There are definite enhancements to shadows (foliage self-shadowing on Switch version) and what appears to be a different ambient occlusion method. Considering the much lower resolution of Switch, I think it holds up really well to the 4K visuals.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Don't know if anyone posted this video already.
Side by side comparison of Switch trailer and X360 version running at 4K.



This is not the 360 or PS3 version. There are definite enhancements to shadows (foliage self-shadowing on Switch version) and what appears to be a different ambient occlusion method. Considering the much lower resolution of Switch, I think it holds up really well to the 4K visuals.

Piss "filter" says it all about Rockstar intentions.

 

[Gonzito]

Don't know if anyone posted this video already.
Side by side comparison of Switch trailer and X360 version running at 4K.



This is not the 360 or PS3 version. There are definite enhancements to shadows (foliage self-shadowing on Switch version) and what appears to be a different ambient occlusion method. Considering the much lower resolution of Switch, I think it holds up really well to the 4K visuals.

and it seems to me that this new port has now temporal anti aliasing because aliasing in this game is awful even at 4k with the xbox version, there is a lot of specular aliasing in many areas and so far in these new trailers I havent seen a single piece of aliasing. For me personally this is huge because I cant stand jaggies in my games

 

[charles8771]

Nothing new, look out GTA SA remaster in 10th anniversary

It was a freaking mobile port, not a remaster

 

[Roufianos]

Nintendo are the kings of charging you full price for their Wii ports. But only Sony tho when it comes to wars.

Nintendo are also ass on this front. Not really relevant to the convo about Sony's BC program here though as there's no existing versions on Nintendo platforms.

 

[GloveSlap]

This dude did that.

He cleared house at Rockstar for any of that vile "counter culture" and took away the "bite" they were known for. They've purely become an extension of 2K's bidding.

He definitely looks like the company acts now. Like a rich kid with no concept of working for money because it comes so easily.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Nintendo are also ass on this front. Not really relevant to the convo about Sony's BC program here though as there's no existing versions on Nintendo platforms.

I would rather have this version than the PS3 version. As minimal effort this is from Take2/R*.

 

[Portugeezer]

I'm out.

 

[charles8771]

I would rather have this version than the PS3 version. As minimal effort this is from Take2/R*.

Yeah don't be suprised when devs criticized PS3 for that CPU
Gabe Newell called the PS3 "A waste of everybody's time"

PS3 "a pain in the ass to work on"

Sony's PlayStation 3 has been described as a "pain in the ass" to make games for - nearly five years after its launch.

www.eurogamer.net

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah don't be suprised when devs criticized PS3 for that CPU
Gabe Newell called the PS3 "A waste of everybody's time"

PS3 "a pain in the ass to work on"

Sony's PlayStation 3 has been described as a "pain in the ass" to make games for - nearly five years after its launch.

www.eurogamer.net

Yet... they made The Orange Box for it.

 

[cash_longfellow]

Is he wrong though? Rockstar obviously couldn't get away with charging $50 for a lazy port if Sony weren't so lazy on the back compat front.

You going there too?

 

[CircusOfValues]

This is all hilarious.

 

[Flabagast]

Rockstar is dead and the Houser knew it well when making RDR2. It is both the magnus opus and the swan song of the company they created, and it has been very clear for the past few years.

 

[bad guy]

Groundwork for the PC version. Code was a mess.

 

[Dorago]

This is literally the worst case scenario

 

[DeepEnigma]

This is literally the worst case scenario

Nah, that would have been the GTA Trilogy fiasco.

This is still lame, however.

 

[legacy24]

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

No matter how much we complain this low effort cash grab will be a huge success. Just like the GTA Shitinitive Edition.

 

[violence]

Maybe games just take a really really long time for them to make now… and they’re not just coasting on GTAV.

 

[Murdok]

 

[ChoosableOne]

They saw that Nintendo gets away with it every time, so they did the same. A proper way to treat Nintendo's whales.

 

[adamsapple]

"Commercially accurate"

 

[Timberwolf25]

Even IGN's Sony oriented podcast is talking about how big a letdown this is

 

[FullMetalx117]

I still have a sealed Xbox 360 version. Might buy this on switch

 

[Giallo Corsa]

For all their faults, at least Microsoft understands the value of maintaining multi-generational game access, much like PC libraries on Steam.
.

Buddy , let's be clear on one thing : it's clear as day now why MS pushed for the BC program and it's not because Papa Phil loves or respects "gamers" or because MS "understands the value of maintaining multi-generational game access, much like PC libraries on Steam" - the sheer incompetence, studio mismanagement, zero exclusive releases and utter PR bullshit they've been doing for the past 3+ years is the proof that the BC program was there mainly for + points/gamer cookie points/goodwill creation since retrospectively, that's the only thing they had going on.
Yeah, things are.gonna change with the savior of gaming Starfield but...look at how "friendly" and "respectful" they've been lately with the gold to GPU conversion rates, GPU trials from 30 to 15 days, GPU price hike etc etc.
LIke all companies out there, they just want your/our money, there's no sense of "debt" nor pride nor respect towards the average consumer, the sooner some.of the fanboys understand that, the less miserable some.of the forums like this will be.

Jesus Christ, some of you will believe anything the PR machine will throw at you and it's just sad, how gullible can some people be I'll never understand...

PS : Sony is being typically tone-deaf about BC, guess what though, they're also shitty, I suppose they like.making.- wait for it - money by selling remasters.
Shitty companies do shitty things, the only thing one has to do is not fall victim to the PR machine or corporate BS.

 

[charles8771]

Buddy , let's be clear on one thing : it's clear as day now why MS pushed for the BC program and it's not because Papa Phil loves or respects "gamers" or because MS "understands the value of maintaining multi-generational game access, much like PC libraries on Steam" - the sheer incompetence, studio mismanagement, zero exclusive releases and utter PR bullshit they've been doing for the past 3+ years is the proof that the BC program was there mainly for + points/gamer cookie points/goodwill creation since retrospectively, that's the only thing they had going on.
Yeah, things are.gonna change with the savior of gaming Starfield but...look at how "friendly" and "respectful" they've been lately with the gold to GPU conversion rates, GPU trials from 30 to 15 days, GPU price hike etc etc.
LIke all companies out there, they just want your/our money, there's no sense of "debt" nor pride nor respect towards the average consumer, the sooner some.of the fanboys understand that, the less miserable some.of the forums like this will be.

Jesus Christ, some of you will believe anything the PR machine will throw at you and it's just sad, how gullible can some people be I'll never understand...

People want remasters of their favorite games from 2000s, so clearly people just wanted new consoles just to play remasters of old games

Why you think Skyrim got re-released over and over again?

 

[phant0m]

Rockstar on a downward spiral since 2008.

Bank account says otherwise

 

[Indyblue]

GTA 4 rerelease will just be them reminding us that it’s on the 360 and ps3 but now costs $50 again

 

[I Love Rock 'n' Roll]

That's even worse. Get a 360 and RDR for the same price of the remaster and experience the same game at the same resolution and same PFS count... and it's 720p 30 FPS all the time, unlike the Swtich version I guess...

 

[Shadowstar39]

If it’s not even 60fps then there is no point.

There is a point. It's not on pc, and I don't want to plug in my ps3. As long as it's 1080p on ps4/5 switch I will buy it. Been waiting to replay it.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

I have yet to see anything official on whether it's only 30 fps. Just a bunch of tweets.

Gonna holdout hope that it will be 60 fps.

Spoiler

Unbloody likely. It seems that they were deadset on making this as shitty as possible

It's 4K 30 confirmed by Playstation trailer.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

That's even worse. Get a 360 and RDR for the same price of the remaster and experience the same game at the same resolution and same PFS count... and it's 720p 30 FPS all the time, unlike the Swtich version I guess...

PS4 Pro and PS5 will run it at 4K30, not 720p.

 

[FunkMiller]

"Commercially accurate"

Problem is, millions of idiots will buy this, so he’s kind of right.

 

[Drizzlehell]

I just recently bought a copy for Series S, and I still have a PS3 copy somewhere on my shelf, so I'm skipping this shit. Absolutely laughable that the PS4 version is running in 30 FPS.

I halfway expected this announcement to come with a picture of a guy putting on clown make up.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

Isn't the entirety of Rockstar working on GTA6?

pretty much, And they've got infinite money bank rolling them via GTA Online. Gonna be nuts when it shows up.

 

[Majormaxxx]

Undead nightmare has a glitch on xbox one/series. They never bothered fixing it. Wonder if it will be present here.

 

[Barrico82]

I have any problem with paying full price for it, if it a remaster or remade or remake in RDR2 engine, but straight port nah 50$ is too much for it

 

[adamsapple]

Undead nightmare has a glitch on xbox one/series. They never bothered fixing it. Wonder if it will be present here.

What's the glitch?

I played it to completion recently without any game breaking bugs.