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[zcaa0g]

You're living in a fantasy land. Healthcare is provided in giant sprawling metropolises just as, if not better, than rural populaces. If scaling was such an issue why can we scale everything else proportionally? please answer the question instead of dodging it.

You ready to give up 80% of your salary to fund universal healthcare in the U.S.?

 

[zcaa0g]

Take away all those aide packages and military protection from UH countries, and said UH will plummet when monies have to be diverted into their own defense budgets.

With that said, the health industry is broken and by far overly bloated (monetarily) in this country.


Seems he's giving back a second time due to that, now isn't he?

Protestors don't have a point. Lazy slacktivist shits that they are. All that energy could be used to actually help people.

That still wouldn't cover it. We're not talking billions here, we're talking trillions.

 

[Blade2.0]

You ready to give up 80% of your salary to fund universal healthcare in the U.S.?

It won't cost that much. When there isn't a profit motive for healthcare + economies of scale, prices will fall.

https://www.who.int/china/health-topics/universal-health-coverage

Tell me how a country with 1.5 billion can cover 95% of their populace through public care but America, which is a richer nation, can't cover 350 million. The answer may surprise you.

 

[DeepEnigma]

That still wouldn't cover it. We're not talking billions here, we're talking trillions.

I think you misread what I wrote. The constant aide and protection affords those much smaller populaces not having to invest so much into it, themselves. We here, already have a FUBAR industry monetarily speaking.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Show me how universal healthcare works mathematically with a population of 340 million people.

All you do is take the profit out of health insurance and put it into healthcare instead.

At that point you can pay less and treat more people, and nobody has to run a gofundme, or sell their house and move into their car.

EDIT: FWIW, I can understand why you might think this improabable, if you're American, there are a lot of people making a fortune out of healthcare, so it's in their interest to make sure you think it's the only way and they're buying your politicians and advertising to make sure. I'm genuinely not trying to talk down to you when I say that, but there are countries that people pay less into and get better results. By any measure, American healthcare is the most expensive in the world, but does not deliver the best results.

 

[Jsisto]

Most deaf people would actually be offended that you or anyone thinks they need to be fixed and that they shouldn't be who they are. There is a real deaf culture!

I don't appreciate you saying "blind, deaf and dumb" ... THAT is ableist and offensive!

I am part of the the balding community and I don't appreciate your framing of what I said. You're gaslighting me and that's exactly what someone with a full head of hair would do. Tread lightly.

 

[Burning Blade]

Poor blind people. They never saw it coming.

Would have figured the deaf community would have heard about this by now.

Say what you want about deaf people…

 

[Vicetrailia]

The US healthcare system is the most dysfunctional mess possible.

And it gets worse the higher the population gets because we don’t produce enough people in the field.

 

[zcaa0g]

All you do is take the profit out of health insurance and put it into healthcare instead.

At that point you can pay less and treat more people, and nobody has to run a gofundme, or sell their house and move into their car.

EDIT: FWIW, I can understand why you might think this improabable, if you're American, there are a lot of people making a fortune out of healthcare, so it's in their interest to make sure you think it's the only way and they're buying your politicians and advertising to make sure. I'm genuinely not trying to talk down to you when I say that, but there are countries that people pay less into and get better results. By any measure, American healthcare is the most expensive in the world, but does not deliver the best results.

In the U.S., it would cost an estimated $32 trillion at a bare minimum in its first decade, which is more than double all currently projected federal individual and corporate income tax collections. Taxes would have to be raised exponentially and even that wouldn't be mathematically viable long term and then people would be bitching about the high taxes.

 

[iPaul93]

I can't stand the guy, but good on him for helping others and fuck all those people complaining about him doing something good, unlike most youtubers and streamers out there.

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

I will never understand why people watch that guy, but it sounds like he is making money and using it for some good causes as well?

 

[DeepEnigma]

The US healthcare system is the most dysfunctional mess possible.

And it gets worse the higher the population gets because we don’t produce enough people in the field.

*looks towards certain borders*

 

[Vestal]

In the U.S., it would cost an estimated $32 trillion at a bare minimum in its first decade, which is more than double all currently projected federal individual and corporate income tax collections. Taxes would have to be raised exponentially and even that wouldn't be mathematically viable long term and then people would be bitching about the high taxes.

Where does this number come from?

 

[DeafTourette]

I am part of the the balding community and I don't appreciate your framing of what I said. You're gaslighting me and that's exactly what someone with a full head of hair would do. Tread lightly.

Dude... Just stop.

 

[badblue]

You ready to give up 80% of your salary to fund universal healthcare in the U.S.?

Where are you getting that 80% figure from? Even if it's true, it still might be the cheaper option considering:

The United States spends significantly more on healthcare than comparable countries, and yet has worse health outcomes.

The largest category of health spending in both the U.S. and comparable countries was spending on inpatient and outpatient care, which includes payments to hospitals, clinics, and physicians for services and fees such as primary care or specialist visits, surgical care, and facility and professional fees (see Methods for more details). Americans spent $6,624 per person on inpatient and outpatient care while comparable countries spent an average of $2,718 per person, a difference of $3,906 per person. Patients in the U.S. have shorter average hospitals stays and fewer physician visits per capita, while many hospital procedures have been shown to have higher prices in the U.S.

Similarly, many prescription drugs cost more in the U.S. than the same drugs do in other comparable nations. When we look at drugs treating different diseases, we find that certain drugs treating arthritis, blood clots, HIV, and more were found to be higher in the U.S. than in comparable countries. In 2018, the U.S. spent $1,397 per capita on prescription drugs and other medical goods (including over-the-counter and clinically-delivered pharmaceuticals as well as durable and non-durable medical equipment) while comparable countries spent $884 per capita on average, a difference of $513.

Edit - Found the Canadian Numbers: a typical Canadian family (two parents and two children) with an average household income of $142,449 will pay $14,474 for public health care this year through various taxes. The average individual can expect to pay $4,894.

 

[Jsisto]

Dude... Just stop.

I feel dumb having to point this out but I hope you realize I was joking.

 

[Redneckerz]

Just one more reason why it is important to call a spade a spade. People are helped, that's the important part, but ofcourse people who never have shown a shred of empathy themselves call this out.

Social media sucks.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

In the U.S., it would cost an estimated $32 trillion at a bare minimum in its first decade, which is more than double all currently projected federal individual and corporate income tax collections. Taxes would have to be raised exponentially and even that wouldn't be mathematically viable long term and then people would be bitching about the high taxes.

Americans currently pay more of their GDP on healthcare than France who have a healthcare system that is rated the best in the world and doesn't bankrupt people who unfortunately fall ill.

Why wouldn't that work in the USA?

Someone's lying to you.

 

[DeafTourette]

I feel dumb having to point this out but I hope you realize I was joking.

I know you were. Being deaf, I felt you were just making me (and deaf people by extension) a mockery.

I now realize that wasn't your intention but it made me feel a certain way.

We're good tho.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Americans currently pay more of their GDP on healthcare than France who have a healthcare system that is free to all and is rated the best in the world.

Why wouldn't that work in the USA?

Someone's lying to you.

As a follow up, if Americans paid the same amount they currently do (ie, more than France does as an expression of GDP) but couldn't drag their healthcare up to France's standard, but could get in the top ten, that would be an improvement. Because currently the most expensive healthcare system in the world isn't even in the top ten. How can that be worth defending? That's without even taking into account the people that can't afford their cancer treatment so have to die. Or the people that get hit by a car but ask their friends to take them to hospital in a car instead of calling emergency services because they can't afford to pay for an ambulance. Or this woman who was told to cough up $15k or a doctor wouldn't perform surgery to save her unborn twins' life, maybe her too.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/04/27/1171936566/she-was-pregnant-and-had-to-find-15-000-overnight-to-save-her-twins

You'd have to be pretty hard nosed to say "pay the $15k now or your wife and children will probably be dead by morning." That's like something out of a Mafia movie.

None of that is necessary, unless you're chasing profit. What's crazy is that some Americans will say that it is necessary or that any other way couldn't work.

Fingers crossed that it doesn't happen to you because America truly is a terrible place to have bad luck.

 

[Jsisto]

I know you were. Being deaf, I felt you were just making me (and deaf people by extension) a mockery.

I now realize that wasn't your intention but it made me feel a certain way.

We're good tho.

Not at all friend, I’d never do that. I honestly did not read the whole thread to read about your situation, so I’m really sorry if I came off that way. I was mostly just trying to make light of people attacking Mr. Beast for doing what I think most would agree was a good thing.
Also when I said “blind, deaf and dumb” I was referring to the definition of “dumb” that refers to people who can’t speak, not the other definition used as an insult. Feel like I should clarify that as I think you misunderstood. Anyways, sorry! I get a little too caught up in my web of sarcasm sometimes.

 

[TheDreadBaron]

Lets suppose healthcare would cost the U.S. trillions of dollars, say aren’t we spending trillions of dollars policing the world? Maybe just skim a little bit off the top of that, instead of drone striking a family we subsidize my wife’s 800 dollar a month single medication… Political Alert

 

[AlteredForms]

Americans currently pay more of their GDP on healthcare than France who have a healthcare system that is free to all and is rated the best in the world.

Why wouldn't that work in the USA?

Someone's lying to you.

Because the taxpayer will feel the burn of that “freedom” you people rave about. When junkies and baby mamas eat up all the motherfucking resources and shit then don’t come crying to me, it seems unreasonable.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Because the taxpayer will feel the burn of that “freedom” you people rave about. When junkies and baby mamas eat up all the motherfucking resources and shit then don’t come crying to me, it seems unreasonable.

This is how they got you:

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Lets suppose healthcare would cost the U.S. trillions of dollars, say aren’t we spending trillions of dollars policing the world? Maybe just skim a little bit off the top of that, instead of drone striking a family we subsidize my wife’s 800 dollar a month single medication… Political Alert

You could drone strike the family AND have the medication at a reasonable price if insane profit margins weren't necessary - nothing else needs to change, take a look at Insulin:

"While costs do vary between Canadian provinces, insulin across the board is extraordinarily less expensive than in the United States: from $30 to $45 for a vial of fast-acting insulin like Humalog or Novolog (called NovoRapid outside the USA) versus ~$300 in the USA; and roughly $60 to $100 for a box of pre-filled insulin pens, versus upwards of ~$500 or more in the U.S. And if someone’s buying multiple vials or pens, just do the math — it’s quite the difference in price."

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www.healthline.com

Google how much it costs to make a vial of insulin if you think the drug companies aren't making enough profit at the Canada pricing, btw!

 

[HoodWinked]

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[NoLootBoxDev]

I think the main issue is - would he be doing it if it didn’t bring him money? If not - then his main trigger is making money, not helping others.
Still good what he does but people protesting have a point as well.

I understand both sides, but I bet most of YouTubers only make money and do nothing with it more than fill their pockets, which at least that guy helps some people, so this is better than the alternative.

 

[MrA]

It won't cost that much. When there isn't a profit motive for healthcare + economies of scale, prices will fall.

https://www.who.int/china/health-topics/universal-health-coverage

Tell me how a country with 1.5 billion can cover 95% of their populace through public care but America, which is a richer nation, can't cover 350 million. The answer may surprise you.

considering us has 93% or so of the population is covered and that 7% gets extra cute as it includes illegal immigrants, which is like 11 million people, so oopsies oh and it gets better because non-profit hospitals (most in the US) will cover most to all costs of those under 200% of the federal poverty level, but keep being uninformed.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

considering us has 93% or so of the population is covered and that 7% gets extra cute as it includes illegal immigrants, which is like 11 million people, so oopsies oh and it gets better because non-profit hospitals (most in the US) will cover most to all costs of those under 200% of the federal poverty level, but keep being uninformed.

Stop.

First of all - politics.

Second of all - US system of healthcare has been proven to be inefficient and costly. Just take the L, live with it or move to Europe where giving birth costs 100€, and staying in hospital doesn’t cost anything.

 

[CGNoire]

Most deaf people won't be helped with a cochlear implant or hearing aids... And you can't "fix" deafness. We already have a culture and a language.

I'm late life deaf so a cochlear implant helped but I'm still deaf ... When I take off my sound processor, I can't hear a thing. But I can sign and that was a lifesaver before the implant.

What caused your deafness if dont mind sharing?

 

[bitbydeath]

It's funny you should mention that because I remember reading that some in the "deaf community" consider it wrong to "fix" deaf people. I really wish this was a parody.

You could say his comedy has fallen on deaf ears.

 

[Outlier]

Ever notice in every picture of Mr. Beast smiling, he has the exact same expression on his face? I want to see a montage.

It's a soulless smile. His mouth does the action, but his eyes are thinking of anything else being better.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

You ready to give up 80% of your salary to fund universal healthcare in the U.S.?

Can you quote studies showing that? Also, should we still apply absolute numbers to salaries or PPP? Because you can make 100k+ is SF and be poor, or make similar in even Paris and be much better off, and that's not even taking into account much higher taxes here in France.
The whole idea of universal healthcare is spreading the payments, since not everyone will get sick and not at the same time. So no, you will not have to give 80% of your salary in order not to pay a dime to see a doctor.

 

[mxbison]

Of course it's good what he did but I can still dislike him for being the king of punchable youtube clickbait thumbnails.

 

[Lasha]

Of course it's good what he did but I can still dislike him for being the king of punchable youtube clickbait thumbnails.

His Fortnite skin is way too common.

 

[DeafTourette]

What caused your deafness if dont mind sharing?

I'm actually not sure. I remember having constant ringing in my ears every spring... Then once it started in the Fall and my hearing just declined after that. It never came back. My audi thinks it was an infection that I didn't know about and it caused nerve damage that destroyed my hearing.

 

[DeafTourette]

It's funny you should mention that because I remember reading that some in the "deaf community" consider it wrong to "fix" deaf people. I really wish this was a parody.

It's a waning belief nowadays. I was told I wasn't going to be accepted by some deafies because of my cochlear... But I've been accepted by everyone I've met. Even one of my close friends who is culturally deaf would have beat someone's tuchus if they so much as fixed their faces to me because of it.

Deaf people are a minority and the culture is all we have to connect us (other than ASL). The CI is no more a threat to the deaf community than a conch shell is a threat to national security.

 

[CGNoire]

I'm actually not sure. I remember having constant ringing in my ears every spring... Then once it started in the Fall and my hearing just declined after that. It never came back. My audi thinks it was an infection that I didn't know about and it caused nerve damage that destroyed my hearing.

Thats crazy to hear....i literally just watched something on YT just the other day that talked about the exact same thing happening to some one famous (for some reason I cant recall who it was) where they had an ear infection that went undiagnosed and cause there hearing loss. Small world.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Weird thread. Anyway think this fits perfectly with the discussion here:

 

[Spyxos]

Just take the L, love with it or move to Europe where giving birth costs 100€, and staying in hospital doesn’t cost anything.

That's not quite true. In Germany, a one-day stay costs in a hospital is 10 euros per day. And a sister-in-law has just had a child and they have paid over 1k.

 

[Toots]

He is not doing it to help people, its to generate clicks. He is using the misfortune of others to gain money. At least that's how his thumbnails come across, never watched his videos. Dudes face gives me the creeps.

Everyone should remember this.
Great that his way of generating clicks can also help people but he would stop helping if it didn't make money for him.
How do i know ?
I'm his mom.
More seriously a rich dude giving millions to charity without ever depriving himself of anything is lame, especially when he tells everyone about it. Some poor dude sharing his meal with someone else, or a child taking from his allowance to give to someone in need is cool, especially because no one knows about it
How do i know ?
I'm everyone's mom... And i know you haven't been sharing with your siblings as much as you could so try and adjust your attitude before i do it for you... You know my sandal never miss.

 

[Toots]

Stop.

First of all - politics.

Second of all - US system of healthcare has been proven to be inefficient and costly. Just take the L, love with it or move to Europe where giving birth costs 100€, and staying in hospital doesn’t cost anything.

Stop with the bullcrap dude we both know it isn't true.
Even in France with CMU free medicare is for just the most basic treatments. And CMU is for those who have no income whatsoever...
Our system is trememdously better than the others for sure, but to say staying in a hospital doesn't cost anything is plain misinformation.

 

[The Skull]

He is not doing it to help people, its to generate clicks. He is using the misfortune of others to gain money. At least that's how his thumbnails come across, never watched his videos. Dudes face gives me the creeps.

I always thought this as well and, while still plausible, his Beast Philanthropy channel shows more of what he does to help people. He's just done a video on that channel helping 2000 amputees with prosthetic limbs.

Regardless of his motivations, if he continues to help others at the scale he is doing I can only see that as a net positive.

 

[Unknown?]

What the fuck is a toxic savior complex.

Oh no he wants to help people too much.

Oh no he didn’t fix capitalism what an asshole.

Returning to capitalism would require abolishing the federal reserve and corporatism we have now, he has no power to do that.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Stop with the bullcrap dude we both know it isn't true.
Even in France with CMU free medicare is for just the most basic treatments. And CMU is for those who have no income whatsoever...
Our system is trememdously better than the others for sure, but to say staying in a hospital doesn't cost anything is plain misinformation.

Ok, then it costs....10€ per day? Better now?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

That's not quite true. In Germany, a one-day stay costs in a hospital is 10 euros per day. And a sister-in-law has just had a child and they have paid over 1k.

You are really going to argue free is not the same as 10€ per day?

 

[a multicultural team of v]

you arent supposed to actually help people, you are supposed to post on social media that you would support someone else helping people

 

[Spyxos]

You are really going to argue free is not the same as 10€ per day?

It's already not free if it's even 1 cent. And at 10 euros per day, it also grows very quickly. When I was last in the hospital, there were several people who had been there for weeks or even months. That adds up to hundreds of euros.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

It's already not free if it's even 1 cent. And at 10 euros per day, it also grows very quickly. When I was last in the hospital, there were several people who had been there for weeks or even months. That adds up to hundreds of euros.

In the US it adds up to hundreds of thousands of dollars, you really don't see the difference?

 

[Spyxos]

In the US it adds up to hundreds of thousands of dollars, you really don't see the difference?

Sure I see the difference. But I don't see your it's free statement anywhere either.