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Thread 'PlayStation Plus is increasing its pricing globally starting September 6th'

Aug 30, 2023

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"PlayStation Plus is increasing its pricing globally starting September 6th."

PlayStation Plus Monthly Games for September: Saints Row, Black Desert – Traveler Edition, Generation Zero

New pricing changes to PlayStation Plus 12-Month plans.

blog.playstation.com

We also wanted to let you know that starting September 6 we will be increasing the price for PlayStation Plus 12-month subscriptions globally across all benefit plans. This price adjustment will enable us to continue bringing high-quality games and value-added benefits to your PlayStation Plus...

• Sleepwalker
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PS+ Premium was raised to $160.

GamePass was raised to $360.

SonyToo that.

 

[Itchy Tickles]

Part of it is like free to play games. Change the consumers spending habits and make the new greedy easily explotitive way the norm.

I've seen nothing but people complain about this, and rightfully so. Then you look at the whole of Microsoft and their behaviour. Massive layoffs, cancelled games, closing studios, raising prices on old hardware and current services, but always have that sweet healthy margin of profit while telling people to use A.I to get over their struggles, all said through a shit eating grin on their face. (Yes, corporations and business love making money, but at least having some communication skills, it isn't hard)

I personally fell off of Xbox at the end of the 360 era and on any gaming service, I don't like cloud gaming as it still feels hollow, which stops my enjoyment of the game.

 

[MisterXDTV]

and they are NOT happy

But the upside in this case is they can switch console/platform without any regret at all

Those games were never bought in the first place, just rented

 

[Topher]

PS+ Premium was raised to $160.

GamePass was raised to $360.

SonyToo that.

If I recall, Game Pass price has been raised three times now since PS+ price was hiked in 2023. I don't think bringing up PS+ is much of a gotcha here.

 

[mckmas8808]

If they used GamePass for years they don't have much of a library at this point....

GamePass = rental

They own nothing

Dang.....that gives someone even less friction to leave an ecosystem. Never thought about that. MS really freaking screwed up this time with GamePass and Xbox in general.

 

[Bojji]

Pure marketing genius and another reason Xbox consoles are flourishing.

MS is playing 4D chess

 

[Sooner]

Have I missed something?

Only that I'm really bad at expressing sarcasm online.

 

[simpatico]

Can we make a thread where everyone has to answer honestly how may months they've paid of XBL, PS+ or whatever Nintendo calls their thing? I'm sure we've got peeps who've never missed a month of XBL and PS+. Curious how much that would cost if you subbed to both on day 1 and never missed. Just asked AI: $4,200.

I think I'm well under 10 months of XBL on 360. Only subbed during big releases. Cod 4, Gears 1, Halo 3. Didn't even own a console by the time MW3 dropped.

 

[Sooner]

Can we make a thread where everyone has to answer honestly how may months they've paid of XBL, PS+ or whatever Nintendo calls their thing.

I think I'm well under 10 months of XBL on 360. Only subbed during big releases. Cod 4, Gears 1, Halo 3. Didn't even own a console by the time MW3 dropped.

First, you can't make anyone answer anything honestly online.

I was subscribed to Xbox Live from the start of the 360 generation until just about a year ago when I sold my Series X since they were clearly going fully third-party.

I had GPU for a cheap deal for about a year. Used it a bit, but most of the games I wanted to play weren't there when I wanted to play, so I unsubscribed.

I've had PS+ since the launch of PS4 and Premium since it was introduced. I find more use for it than GP as it has more games I'm interested in. Still, if Sony raised the yearly price from $160 to $360, I'd drop it immediately.

I've had NSO since launch. That's more for my kids, though.

 

[Karim]

If I recall, Game Pass price has been raised three times now since PS+ price was hiked in 2023. I don't think bringing up PS+ is much of a gotcha here.

To be fair Sony has already announced to want to expand their plane about the pspremiun tier offer, after seen such price hike on gamepass I'm starting to be scared about their plan.

 

[jm89]

Backlash seems worse this times, but the chance of ms backtracking might be lower.

Core/live price increase was probably pure profit.

Ultimate price increase is probably all about sustainability, cause you don't increase the price this much if it was sustainable.

 

[mckmas8808]

To be fair Sony has already announced to want to expand their plane about the pspremiun tier offer, after seen such price hike on gamepass I'm starting to be scared about their plan.

Sony will probably want to push PS+ Premium to $200 a year in 2026 I'm afraid. That's $16.67 per month. At the moment it's $13.33 a month or $160.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

all these years later, im still surprised by the tidal wave of turbo nerds who paid $15/m for WoW

 

[Sooner]

all these years later, im still surprised by the tidal wave of turbo nerds who paid $15/m for WoW

Yeah. Us cool kids were paying for the far superior Final Fantasy XI.

 

[Rockman33]

I kind of think we have hit a point where even the big Xbox fans like myself are numb to all the missteps and have accepted the fate. Even though I have 170k+ achievement score and a ton of games in the ecosystem I think next gen will almost certainly be PlayStation only for me.

 

[Gamer79]

I just loved how Microsoft tried to present the price increase. "We listened to you!" Who the fuck suggested to raise the price by 33%?

 

[PlayStaytion]

They watch their consumers behavior and any change in patterns.

 

[cireza]

That's because back then people still cared about Xbox. I doubt people care anymore, so nothing will change.

 

[MacReady13]

Sony did that shit with PS plus and there was one day of complaning and nothing happened

Yeah but Sony hasn't made the Playstation ecosystem entirely contingent on PS+ selling their consoles whereas Microsoft have made Gamepass their number 1 selling point for consoles for many years now. In fact, Microsoft has basically trained their users to not buy games, which is the complete opposite of what Sony is trying to do (and achieving) on Playstation.

 

[Artistic]

That was actually more greed than $30 a month GCU subscription.

No one is forcing you to pay for Game Pass Ultimate.

 

[MisterXDTV]

That was actually more greed than $30 a month GCU subscription.

No one is forcing you to pay for Game Pass Ultimate.

The whole point of GamePass was Day 1 games

Don't try to make it sound like people were interested in Xbox Live Gold

 

[Artistic]

The whole point of GamePass was Day 1 games

Don't try to make it sound like people were interested in Xbox Live Gold

No it wasn't for the first sentence. It was just added and a great incentive.

If you want to play online, XBL Gold is pretty much obligatory.

 

[MisterXDTV]

No it wasn't for the first sentence. It was just added and a great incentive.

If you want to play online, XBL Gold is pretty much obligatory.

1) They spent 7 years telling people that GamePass with Day 1 games was sustainable and the future of gaming....

2) They doubled the price in the span of two years since getting ABK

3) Now you are trying to tell me that Day 1 games are not the point of GamePass?

 

[Banjo64]

PS+ Premium was raised to $160.

GamePass was raised to $360.

SonyToo that.

Also, Sony haven't made PS Plus their entire identity and didn't try to con the public that giving away AAA games day one for £10 was a profitable venture.

There's a reason why every move Xbox make with Game Pass is judged through a lens and to be frank, it's because they've been lying bastards about it for years.

 

[Jigsaah]

 

[Artistic]

1) They spent 7 years telling people that GamePass with Day 1 games was sustainable and the future of gaming....

2) They doubled the price in the span of two years since getting ABK

3) Now you are trying to tell me that Day 1 games are not the point of GamePass?

No, it isn't.

Isn't the day 1 releases a new addition to Game Pass as is within the last few years?

 

[SEGAvangelist]

The issue is not that there is no complaining. The issue is that Xbox hasn't responded to the incredible amount of complaining. It's over.

 

[Artistic]

1) They spent 7 years telling people that GamePass with Day 1 games was sustainable and the future of gaming....

2) They doubled the price in the span of two years since getting ABK

3) Now you are trying to tell me that Day 1 games are not the point of GamePass?

I stand corrected. Never knew Day 1 releases were available since 2018.

 

[Hero_Select]

Well, these geniuses found a way to do it again with almost no one complaining.

How to twist a narrative to push more negativity

 

[GHG]

It's funny that you mention this now - they just brought it back.

Gamepass essential is now $120 a year.

 

[Artistic]

It's funny that you mention this now - they just brought it back.

Gamepass essential is now $120 a year.

Is this true or not, I'm reading conflicting stuff on Reddit.

 

[GHG]

Is this true or not, I'm reading conflicting stuff on Reddit.

Yes it is.

Xbox live gold subscribers got converted to gamepass core:

Gamepass core subscribers now get converted to gamepass essential, which is $9.99 a month.

You all got reverse uno'd.

 

[Three]

If they change PC game pass they ll kill the service on PC since we are not locked to MS ecosystem, now on Xbox they can do whatever they want since console player dont have another options, its like what Xbox players ll do ? Migrate to another plataform and lose all their games ?

If they're not buying but subscribing to said games...
what games would they really be losing? This was always the problem for xbox, their whole strategy was based on disruption of the market without a good goal.

They changed PC gamepass by the way and made it much worse. It's the console version that isn't seeing much of a change because they already had it worse since the previous change.

 

[Artistic]

Yes it is.

Xbox live gold subscribers got converted to gamepass core. Gamepass core subscribers now get converted to gamepass essential, which is $9.99 a month.

You all got reverse uno'd.

It's always been $10 a month, but can I still just buy a 12 month subscription plan is what I'm worried about.

I paid $40 for a old 12 month XBL Gold code which was converted to Game Pass Core back in April.

 

[GHG]

It's always been $10 a month, but can I still just buy a 12 month subscription plan is what I'm worried about.

I paid $40 for a old 12 month XBL Gold code which was converted to Game Pass Core back in April.

Well in that case you got reverse uno'd whenever they decided to make it $10 a month.

The most obedient fanbase, the best fanbase.

 

[Topher]

It's always been $10 a month, but can I still just buy a 12 month subscription plan is what I'm worried about.

Microsoft is not offering annual plans on their new subscriptions. Some stores still have the prepaid cards available for sale though.

 

[MisterXDTV]

They changed name to Xbox Live Gold to GamePass Core just to inflate artificially the number of GamePass subscribers....

Basically a marketing scam.....

LOL

 

[Sticks]

No I dont.

 

[welshrat]

If I recall, Game Pass price has been raised three times now since PS+ price was hiked in 2023. I don't think bringing up PS+ is much of a gotcha here.

Yep. Not sure how this pans out for me with only pc game pass. Paying for myself and my son. He only plays cod so might ditch it for him and buy the game and will likely keep it for myself, however with steam sales and me wanting some stuff from game pass on ps5 (hollow night) I might ditch it entirely.

 

[Scrawnton]

If Sony announces a price increase soon, then some cartel shit is going on and it needs shut down.

We are in the end game for console wars. The business isnt expanding so now Sony, Nintendo, and Xbox are slowly raising prices to see where the limit is.

 

[Sooner]

If Sony announces a price increase soon, then some cartel shit is going on and it needs shut down.

We are in the end game for console wars. The business isnt expanding so now Sony, Nintendo, and Xbox are slowly raising prices to see where the limit is.

Again with lumping them together.

Sony and Nintendo player counts keep increasing. Just nowhere near the rate Xbox player counts are decreasing.

That doesn't mean there is something wrong with the console market. It just means there's something very wrong with Xbox.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Imagine getting a "next gen" console for 50 bucks per month with GamePass, the console could be on a leasing and they would upgrade the model you got with a new one if they got a pro model, basically you'll be forever stuck with a subscription.

Well in order for that to work, the console would need to:

1: Basically be upgradable in ways similar to (not exactly as) a PC​

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2: Have comparable apps (entertainment, productivity, business etc.) as a PC​

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3: Be clearly more powerful than a console out of the gate​

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4: Be compatible with most PC peripherals​

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(also keep in mind by "PC" here I mean Windows since this is a Microsoft product)​

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5: Find a way to deliver on that promise of accessing games from other storefronts (i.e adding launcher support for Steam, GOG etc. even if directly buying those games on the 'Xbox' isn't possible)​

They'd need to deliver on those points in order to have a chance with such an Xbox device. Even then, we're still talking about a potentially $1249+ device (2 years of GPU would be realistic, not 3-4), so you're not getting the volumes of even Series X & S, let alone PlayStation or Nintendo.

Also, PC Game Pass is probably going to get cancelled within the next 12 months. That seems most probable considering everything.

Ok, clearly I didn't word things well.

I mean everyone is so busy complaining about GamePass going to $30 a month, very few are mentioning the fact the cost to play online at all went up from $60 to $120 per year.

A while back, MS raised the prices from $60 to $120 and immediately rolled it back because of outrage. Now, they've done it again.

Lol good point; they did have the 2nd cheapest sub for playing online games (2nd to Nintendo) before this. Now they have the most expensive again

Sony did that shit with PS plus and there was one day of complaning and nothing happened

"are you really going with Sony too?" except that they decided to stand with that and nothing happened, it is the same shit when Apple pulled out chargers and P3 audio port from the Iphones, lots of Android fans complained that it was only a matter of time until Samsung and others would do and lo and behold, they did.

Even if Sony is the obvious leader, the competition will start to go cynical because people are allowing this shit to happen in the first place, it isn't a matter of just X, it is a matter of shit stuff that everyone will follow up.

Just piling on because your ass is getting roasted burnt & crispy ITT as-is

 

[EverydayBeast]

Ps plus will be forced to respond