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[Dorfdad]

BOLD FACE FUCKING LIE!

You found partner to toss in some side shit work nothing. Some random skins no one will use more than week for a game not everyone plays, and some old classic UBI games that retail for $4.99-19.99 now and raise the cost saying this is what we asked for? Be truthful you want to price increase to cover your bleeding console sales, and game sales % that your losing.

You're not doing everyone a favor adding services we dont care for. Toss in a Monthly Spotify or Apple Music subscription, or Netflix in that cost4K/120 cloud gaming and I'll bite.

 

[davidjaffe]

Video was perfectly clear.

I do think you are not mainstream in the sense that $700 a year is a big spend and I'd be curious on what percentile you fall into. Paying full retail for most titles is also pretty edge case I would have thought. It doesn't matter to you obviously, the value is there, but it matters to Xbox, because I suspect they in one fell swoop remade GPU to be bespoke solution to high engagement users instead of a mainstream offering that is a bit expensive for many but still low enough to let it ride. Or maybe my impressions over what is normal is shaped by my drive for savings in gaming.

Thats not to say its a bad thing to cater for hardcore enthusiasts, just its a pivot that is going to gut subscriber numbers. Also lets face it, they are eroding value whichever way you look at it. How can you invest in the ecosystem when you have no confidence the offering won't change in a few weeks/months?

I know core gamers will hate it (or say they hate it) but Xbox with ads and the rest free=a great, great move. It's a great way to get new people into the art form/medium and get people to test things out they never would before. It's also a good toe to dip in these waters as sooner or later, the whole game will pivot to streaming and then they will have access to the whole world pretty much (just like tv). Obviously they won't be putting day 1 games on the ad stuff, except rare exceptions (aka for Xmas we're letting you stream the new COD all day long for free with ads; we are releasing COSTUME QUEST for free with ads on Halloween or Halloween week,etc).

 

[Not_A-Cop_Maybe]

I know core gamers will hate it (or say they hate it) but Xbox with ads and the rest free=a great, great move. It's a great way to get new people into the art form/medium and get people to test things out they never would before. It's also a good toe to dip in these waters as sooner or later, the whole game will pivot to streaming and then they will have access to the whole world pretty much (just like tv). Obviously they won't be putting day 1 games on the ad stuff, except rare exceptions (aka for Xmas we're letting you stream the new COD all day long for free with ads; we are releasing COSTUME QUEST for free with ads on Halloween or Halloween week,etc).

Exactly. Price increase is ass, and purely out of corporate greed. We can all light our pitchforks at that.

but anyone pretending that having a subscription/service that has a shit ton of games and adds games is a net negative to a consumer as an additional choice is just crazy. There are enough tiers that there is something for everyone. If you dont think the service merits 30 dollars a month, great- buy the game at full price. literally no one is stopping you.

 

[reinking]

I know core gamers will hate it (or say they hate it) but Xbox with ads and the rest free=a great, great move. It's a great way to get new people into the art form/medium and get people to test things out they never would before. It's also a good toe to dip in these waters as sooner or later, the whole game will pivot to streaming and then they will have access to the whole world pretty much (just like tv). Obviously they won't be putting day 1 games on the ad stuff, except rare exceptions (aka for Xmas we're letting you stream the new COD all day long for free with ads; we are releasing COSTUME QUEST for free with ads on Halloween or Halloween week,etc).

I absolutely believe that people should spend their money on anything they wish, so if someone finds value in spending $30 per month for GPU who am I to argue? However, I disagree that Xbox with ads, if it launches the way the leaks describe it, will bring new people in. I think most people can live with the 1 hour limit but 5 hours per month will do very little to get new people into the medium. It might be good to demo a game or two but there are other less restrictive options available competing for time.

 

[CLW]

 

[VAVA Mk2]

No one is asking for this. You morons killed what was left of your brand.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I know core gamers will hate it (or say they hate it) but Xbox with ads and the rest free=a great, great move. It's a great way to get new people into the art form/medium and get people to test things out they never would before. It's also a good toe to dip in these waters as sooner or later, the whole game will pivot to streaming and then they will have access to the whole world pretty much (just like tv). Obviously they won't be putting day 1 games on the ad stuff, except rare exceptions (aka for Xmas we're letting you stream the new COD all day long for free with ads; we are releasing COSTUME QUEST for free with ads on Halloween or Halloween week,etc).

Mr Videogame Director and visionary...Have you ever seen the Google Play and App Store ?

 

[Moridianae]

I think there's a pretty clear indication that they've burned their last bridge and I don't see this initiative being the "olive branch" they hope for. Gamers are a *waaay* different community than your average Netflix, Disney or Hulu consumer. Ads there aren't dissimilar from TV we grew up with, as it were, even for casual gamers.

But you'll be hard pressed to find any gamer, casual or otherwise, who will be enthused about $30 a month or a severely limited free tier smatteres with ads for their gaming time.

Way back in 2013, the backlash to the Xbox One was immense in the beginning, but this arguably feels larger and more severe than even that, which I wasn't certain would ever be possible for them to accomplish again, but damned if they don't seem to have done it.