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Report: North Korea may fire a long-range ballistic missile toward Hawaii

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Vgamer

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Hmm I dont think this would be a good idea for them. It would definitely bring them more attention to be sure.

TOKYO — North Korea may fire a long-range ballistic missile toward Hawaii in early July, a Japanese news report said Thursday, as Russia and China urged the regime to return to international disarmament talks on its rogue nuclear program.

The missile, believed to be a Taepodong-2 with a range of up to 4,000 miles, would be launched from North Korea's Dongchang-ni site on the northwestern coast, said the Yomiuri daily, Japan's top-selling newspaper. It cited an analysis by the Japanese Defense Ministry and intelligence gathered by U.S. reconnaissance satellites.

The missile launch could come between July 4 and 8, given the North's propensity to launch on U.S. holidays. July 8 is also the anniversary of former leader's Kim Il Sung's death.


As of late Wednesday night, however, there was no satellite imagery suggesting North Korea had yet stacked or staged a Taepodong-2 missile at either the Dongchang-ni site on its northwest coast or at its Musudan-ni facility on its northeast coast.

Trains are regularly running from North Korea's Tongnim missile factory to both the northwest and northeast launch pads, but there is speculation by South Korean officials that some may be empty and designed to confuse foreign intelligence agencies which the North knows are watching from the skies.

While the newspaper speculated the Taepodong-2 could fly over Japan and toward Hawaii, it said the missile would not be able to hit Hawaii's main islands, which are about 4,500 miles from the Korean peninsula.

A spokesman for the Japanese Defense Ministry declined to comment on the report. South Korea's Defense Ministry and the National Intelligence Service — the country's main spy agency — said they could not confirm it.

Tension on the divided Korean peninsula has spiked since the North conducted its second nuclear test on May 25 in defiance of repeated international warnings. The regime declared Saturday it would bolster its nuclear programs and threatened war in protest of U.N. sanctions taken for the nuclear test.

U.S. officials have said the North has been preparing to fire a long-range missile capable of striking the western U.S. In Washington on Tuesday, Gen. James Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said it would take at least three to five years for North Korea to pose a real threat to the U.S. west coast.
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President Barack Obama and South Korean President Lee Myung-bak met in Washington on Tuesday for a landmark summit in which they agreed to build a regional and global "strategic alliance" to persuade North Korea to dismantle all its nuclear weapons. Obama declared North Korea a "grave threat" to the world and pledged that the new U.N. sanctions on the communist regime will be aggressively enforced.

In Seoul, Vice Unification Minister Hong Yang-ho told a forum Thursday that the North's moves to strengthen its nuclear programs is "a very dangerous thing that can fundamentally change" the regional security environment. He said the South Korean government is bracing for "all possible scenarios" regarding the nuclear standoff.

The independent International Crisis Group think tank, meanwhile, said the North's massive stockpile of chemical weapons is no less serious a threat to the region than its nuclear arsenal.

It said the North is believed to have between 2,500 and 5,000 tons of chemical weapons, including mustard gas, phosgene, blood agents and sarin. These weapons can be delivered with ballistic missiles and long-range artillery and are "sufficient to inflict massive civilian casualties on South Korea."

"If progress is made on rolling back Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions, there could be opportunities to construct a cooperative diplomatic solution for chemical weapons and the suspected biological weapons program," the think tank said in a report released Thursday.

It also called on the U.S. to engage the North in dialogue to defuse the nuclear crisis, saying "diplomacy is the least bad option." The think tank said Washington should be prepared to send a high-level special envoy to Pyongyang to resolve the tension.

In a rare move, leaders of Russia and China used their meetings in Moscow on Wednesday to pressure the North to return to the nuclear talks and expressed "serious concerns" about tension on the Korean peninsula.

The joint appeal appeared to be a signal that Moscow and Beijing are growing impatient with Pyongyang's stubbornness. Northeastern China and Russia's Far East both border North Korea, and Pyongyang's unpredictable actions have raised concern in both countries.

After meetings at the Kremlin, Chinese President Hu Jintao joined Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in urging a peaceful resolution of the Korean standoff and the "swiftest renewal" of the now-frozen talks involving their countries as well as North and South Korea, Japan and the United States.

"Russia and China are ready to foster the lowering of tension in Northeast Asia and call for the continuation of efforts by all sides to resolve disagreements through peaceful means, through dialogue and consultations," their statement said.

The comments — contained in a lengthy statement that discussed other global issues — included no new initiatives, but it appeared to be carefully worded to avoid provoking Pyongyang. In remarks after their meetings, Medvedev made only a brief reference to North Korea, and Hu did not mention it.

South Korea's Lee said Wednesday in Washington that was essential for China and Russia to "actively cooperate" in getting the North to give up its nuclear program, suggesting the North's bombs program may trigger a regional arms race.

"If we acknowledge North Korea possessing nuclear programs, other non-nuclear countries in Northeast Asia would be tempted to possess nuclear weapons and this would not be helpful for stability in Northeast Asia," Lee said in a meeting with former U.S. officials and Korea experts, according to his office.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,527020,00.html

and here: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090618/D98T1AR00.html
 

Binabik15

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Funky Papa said:
Fear mongering and attention whoring all rolled into one.

Yeah, didn´t Obama basically say: Lol, let them throw their tantrum, don´t respond.

So now they threaten to attack the US :lol
 

Brobzoid

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They may fire, they might be able to, they might say they will, etc. but they won't. silly alarmist non-news.
 

Metalic Sand

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ShinAmano said:
Do they remember what happened to the last country that attacked Hawaii?

Lol there gona get fucked up the ass. Why always poor Hawaii. I would like to go there before its potentially nuked!
 

kitch9

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DSN2K said:
do they want their country to burn ? because thats exactly the direction they are going frankly.

Not really, their army is massive as thats just about the only employment in the country, and nuking any country in that area is a no no.......
 

SpacLock

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kitch9 said:
Not really, their army is massive as thats just about the only employment in the country, and nuking any country in that area is a no no.......

Napalm is back. It's the bees knees again.
 

gofreak

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They won't do this...I don't think so anyway..

From the US's point of view, it's one thing to test-fire a missile over the sea of japan or even over japan, but it's a whole other level to actually come knocking on the US's own door like that. I'd say the Japanese would be quite happy if it were to happen, however, as then the US would 'know how we feel' and might get more urgent in their approach to NK.
 

Puck

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seriously, north korea will start this within the next 10 years. once north korea start it, china will ally with them and then they will basically defeat everyone. china has the capacity to shut down all communications across globes, the internet can be fucked up by them.
 

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water_wendi

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Brobzoid said:
They may fire, they might be able to, they might say they will, etc. but they won't. silly alarmist non-news.

Yes because murders dont happen every day over $1.53 or a box of chicken nuggets. Nobody would ever throw away their life to go to prison forever for such worthless things.
 

ahoyhoy

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I think my friend put it best when I told him about the potential North Korean missile launch: "I say we just wait and see what he does. The second any of those missiles, successful or not hits us or Japan, it will mean the reunification of Korea!
 

toxicgonzo

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As a former Hawaiian, I used to think they might launch a missile at us to "show what they're capable of."

But then I thought, if they ever did that, they would at least hit a more populated area like LA.
 

Hellcrow

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Puck said:
seriously, north korea will start this within the next 10 years. once north korea start it, china will ally with them and then they will basically defeat everyone. china has the capacity to shut down all communications across globes, the internet can be fucked up by them.

Why would China ally with them? It's not like North-Korea is their huge economic core.
 

Dyno

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Firing something over Japan and towards America is just about the stupidist thing a non-nuclear power can do.
 

Catalix

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NH Apache said:
Don't you dare fuck with my final season of Lost.

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shaft said:
I feel sad for the North Korean citizens living in fear.

They're not afraid; this guy and his antics are the standard. They have no idea what life outside of North Korea is and they're almost entirely in support of Lil Kim.
 
ahoyhoy said:
I think my friend put it best when I told him about the potential North Korean missile launch: "I say we just wait and see what he does. The second any of those missiles, successful or not hits us or Japan, it will mean the reunification of Korea!

I'm all for reunification. the Koreans up north have suffered enough under tyranny
 

dionysus

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The reunification of Korea would mean the utter destruction of Seoul and one of the worst death tolls of a civilian population seen in a long time. North Korea has enough artillery pointed at Seoul to level it in like 10 minutes.

Yes, they would probably lose the war in a few days with minimal military losses for the American and South Koreans, but that wouldn't stop the massive destruction against non-military targets.
 

linkboy

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Puck said:
seriously, north korea will start this within the next 10 years. once north korea start it, china will ally with them and then they will basically defeat everyone. china has the capacity to shut down all communications across globes, the internet can be fucked up by them.

Not really.

The minute one of those missiles landed in another country (especially if it kills people), China will drop N. Korea like a rag doll.

N. Korea will be screwed the minute that missile lands. If it hits Japan, the WWII treaty doesn't count (where Japan can't attack another country) and they'll be ready to go. S. Korea will be ready to go. The US will be ready to go. Britain will come along because they're pretty much with the US. I also wouldn't be surprised to see some Australia get involved (since they're in the neighborhood).

China is going to what to protect their economic interests with the US and the rest of the world. If they side with N. Korea, all of that economic benefits they're receiving goes away.

As ahoyhoy said, the minute one of these missiles lands in another country, Korea is reunited again.
 

delirium

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norinrad21 said:
I'm all for reunification. the Koreans up north have suffered enough under tyranny
South Korea doesn't necessarily want a reunification. It would probably destroy their economy.
 

Plinko

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The most important part of that article is that China and Russia are FINALLY trying to convince North Korea to start negotiating again. This is the first time in ages they seem to be a concerned with North Korea.
 
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