EdReedFan20
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And a former senator (from Maryland, if I recall). But, if I recall correctly, Logan became president when his predecessor was killed in a plane crash. Logan had been VP.
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And a former senator (from Maryland, if I recall). But, if I recall correctly, Logan became president when his predecessor was killed in a plane crash. Logan had been VP.
BronsonLee
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We're getting that next Saturday aren't we, although I can't seem to find numbers on how many are going to the DC march
The most impactful time for that is obviously the inauguration.
A weeklong protest isn't going to stop the the inauguration.
An arrest of Trump or someone in his inner circle might.
There is a 200,000 strong woman's protest the day after (I have no idea why they picked the day after).
I'd imagine of the million + spectators at least 200k will be protesting the day of.
sugarhigh4242
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We need more than protest, we need organizing. Protests are good, but then everyone goes home and feels good about themselves. Lasting power comes from organizations.
Everybody blames Steele for the murder and Obama's brother later becomes president. OK let's stop this game.
Raven117
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As a side note, I wish the "internet" was around in 2000 (yes, I know it was...I meant social media), to see how crazy this was with Bush and Gore.
We are all in dangerous water right now. I don't know what the outcome will be if things truly went South, but between Russia hacking the DNC, between Trump being a yahoo at best (and compromised by Russia at worst), the nation as a whole not trusting traditional institutions such as the FBI, our own leadership publically bashing our Foreign Intelligence....The foundation is certainly shaking.
The only think that lifts my eyes is hope that America, the country, us, we, are stronger than this. In the words of Obama, Fear can cripple a democracy. Unqualified statement.
Fear of Trump and using "All means necessary" out of fear is as dangerous to democracy as Trump may very well turn out to be.
The miracle of Western Democracy was the PROCESS in which we govern ourselves. You have to believe in the Process more so than the ends of that process.
Long way of saying. Use protests, use freedom of speech, and most importantly grab a clipboard and start getting involved. In other words, see what the Tea Party did after Obama got elected? That...do that.
We are all in dangerous water right now. I don't know what the outcome will be if things truly went South, but between Russia hacking the DNC, between Trump being a yahoo at best (and compromised by Russia at worst), the nation as a whole not trusting traditional institutions such as the FBI, our own leadership publically bashing our Foreign Intelligence....The foundation is certainly shaking.
The only think that lifts my eyes is hope that America, the country, us, we, are stronger than this. In the words of Obama, Fear can cripple a democracy. Unqualified statement.
Fear of Trump and using "All means necessary" out of fear is as dangerous to democracy as Trump may very well turn out to be.
The miracle of Western Democracy was the PROCESS in which we govern ourselves. You have to believe in the Process more so than the ends of that process.
Long way of saying. Use protests, use freedom of speech, and most importantly grab a clipboard and start getting involved. In other words, see what the Tea Party did after Obama got elected? That...do that.
You need someone to organize behind for that. I don't see anyone stepping up. Bernie could be it. But he is more concerned with his campaign talking points than this attack on our democratic order.
Michael Moore could be the guy, but he lacks charisma and credibility.
ratcliffja
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If your oven was sentient and grew antsy if it didn't run every Saturday, then you might do the same.
hawkshockey11
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probably would have to be a POC for maximum effect
I can dream of Obama coming back swinging as a citizen.
Palette Swap
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Yeah. Obama's brother is a crazy asshole, not Mister really good looking principal from that Buffy season no one cares about.
Androidsleeps
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And when does this timeline reach Designated Survivor?
Waldo Lydecker
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We need someone like George Clooney. Or Tom Hanks. Or Joey Cheeck. Didn't these three guys have political aspirations?
sugarhigh4242
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IMO, we're not going to have a national organization in the short term. Local municipal offices are winnable as Kshama Sawant has done in Seattle, which could form the basis for a party of the working class. Local organizations based around issues (affordable housing, immigrant rights, anti-gentrification, etc) can be effective. Efforts to rejuvenate the labor movement are also necessary. It would be an absolute breakthrough if a political party was significant enough to get the support of labor unions over Democrats (not talking about the presidency right now).
wesleyshark
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Aka "We ain't telling you piss-all."
Chie Satonaka
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I heard this in John Oliver's voice.
BronsonLee
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Aka "We ain't telling you piss-all."
That's a bit of a turnaround from the wink wink nudge nudge shit we got before
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-trump-russia-james-comey-congress?CMP=twt_gu
"n that earlier hearing, Comey said he would never comment on a potential FBI investigation in an open forum like this, raising expectations among some attendees of Fridays briefing that Comey would put the issue to rest in a classified setting.
But according to sources attending the closed-door Friday morning meeting, that was not the case. As such, frustration with Comey was bipartisan and heated, adding to intense pressure on the director of the FBI, whose conduct in the 2016 election itself is now being investigated by an independent US justice department watchdog.
One source in the meeting said Comey would not answer basic questions about the FBIs current investigative activities. The FBI chief was grilled over and over again, according to the source, about his standards for acknowledging FBI investigations, with legislators repeatedly bringing up Comeys dramatic public confirmation that the bureau was revisiting classification issues with Hillary Clintons private email server days before the election, as well as his summer press conference announcing that he would not seek indictment."
"n that earlier hearing, Comey said he would never comment on a potential FBI investigation in an open forum like this, raising expectations among some attendees of Fridays briefing that Comey would put the issue to rest in a classified setting.
But according to sources attending the closed-door Friday morning meeting, that was not the case. As such, frustration with Comey was bipartisan and heated, adding to intense pressure on the director of the FBI, whose conduct in the 2016 election itself is now being investigated by an independent US justice department watchdog.
One source in the meeting said Comey would not answer basic questions about the FBIs current investigative activities. The FBI chief was grilled over and over again, according to the source, about his standards for acknowledging FBI investigations, with legislators repeatedly bringing up Comeys dramatic public confirmation that the bureau was revisiting classification issues with Hillary Clintons private email server days before the election, as well as his summer press conference announcing that he would not seek indictment."
TheLaughingStock
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Mike Pence sucks and is a loon. The country would be in poor shape if we actually had to turn to him to lead the country.
3 years, then Ben Carson is the designated survivor on a night all the swamp is blown up.
"It appears that...I'm your...new...president"
Lol. Donald Trump is president. Too damn late.
BronsonLee
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Comey gettin' it from both exits
thehypocrite
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A loon compared to Trump or a Loon compared to Obama?
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Wasserman Schultz confronted Comey about Russian hacking
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...chultz-confronted-comey-about-russian-hacking
The former head of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) confronted FBI Director James Comey on Friday during a confidential briefing on Russian hacking that left many Democrats calling for Comey's scalp, several lawmakers told The Hill.
Rep. Elijah Cummings (Md.), senior Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, delivered a similar condemnation: "I'm extremely concerned — extremely."
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...chultz-confronted-comey-about-russian-hacking
The former head of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) confronted FBI Director James Comey on Friday during a confidential briefing on Russian hacking that left many Democrats calling for Comey's scalp, several lawmakers told The Hill.
Rep. Elijah Cummings (Md.), senior Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, delivered a similar condemnation: "I'm extremely concerned — extremely."
Correct. Loon ratings (higher is worse):
Trump > Pence.
Obama doesn't factor into the ratings as he isn't a loon at all.
GarthVaderUK
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But will he be awake to see it?
What's Comey's fucking endgame here? I just don't understand.
Bet he can't wait for the next 7 days to pass. A very long 7 days.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
No fucking idea.
BronsonLee
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It WAS to not get fired
wesleyshark
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I wouldn't be shocked if it turns out he's also one of Putin's little payroll pawns.
KernelPanic
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Investigation into Russia and Trump should be top secret. No need to admit it
And investigation into Hillary needs to be publicized?
at this rate it'll be Robert Hanssen
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Didn't he reopen the Clinton e-mail thing a week before the election though? Or just made a big thing out of nothing.
Obama is all about that "when they go low, we go high" bullshit.
funkystudent
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thehypocrite
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That's what I think but I'm giving it a range to frame his/hers perspective in a way that I can understand it.
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The devil you know is still the fucking devil.
BronsonLee
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We'll see about that. I have very little confidence.
tedrotheredro
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There must be an investigation if he's not saying anything. He just doesn't want it to leak so it doesn't cause panic before the inauguration. I can only assume Obama opened up the channels so that multiple members of the IC can have adequate information in the event Trump tries to bury it. The IC is likely working around the clock in utmost secrecy to confirm or deny the allegations in the report.
All comin' together, boys.
All comin' together, boys.
The difference is instead of having an idiot in charge who has made some questionable and arguably partisan decisions, we'll have an idiot in charge who is guaranteed to make questionable and partisan decisions.
Just saying, between Comey and whoever Trump picks, I'll take Comey, even if I hate his guts and blame him in part for Hillary losing.
That's Christie's long game. Lol.
As compelling as the memo is, I'm definitely put off by how similar the reactions are in this thread to how Republicans reacted in 2012-2013 to Benghazi.
The difference is there is a lot of circumstantial evidence which, without the memo still leaves a lot of questions.
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