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Four of the most senior intelligence officers briefed Obama and Trump with this report.
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Reports on Russian connections to Trump [Summaries in OP] #GoldenShowers
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Lord Frieza
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That doesn't make any sense. The piss stuff is part of the overall report. Are they trying to say they actively altered the report and inserted that in, but the rest is legit?
The sources are those that Carl Bernstein has access to. It's unsubstantiated by other news organizations. Every major news outlet is probably working their asses off to get something about this themselves, and if/when they do, then this really blows up.
E-Cat
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640K ought to be enough for anybody.
Re Cohen meeting in Prague: Why do I feel like the strategy for the Trump team if indeed this stuff is true would be to find anything in the report, could be ANY one thing that was wrong and use that to disprove the whole thing? That'd be my strategy anyway, coupled with the Fake News line.
ratcliffja
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Winter President?
Speak for yourself. It's supremely funny.
is that so? Are you one of the 90% evangelicals that voted for Trump?
Stumpokapow
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i thought the comparison was appropriate because:
1) trump frequently and at great length expounds on the influence his father had on him; he was in many senses the golden boy, groomed from early age for success and power. another word for golden boy is "boy king". "anointed" is another word for someone poised and groomed for success.
2) trump was elected in part thanks to supporters who create hagiographic images of him, including those of him with a halo around his head, and refer to him as a king, emperor, or god.
3) trump crassly embraces performative christianity for votes despite not apparently having any sincere engagement with faith; he is ultimately sacrilegious to an extreme. his personal brand is all about mammon, money, excess, and commercialism.
4) this is a thread about how trump likes being dunked in piss (or just watching people piss, it's unclear from context)
5) despite the fact that the real story here is Russian intelligence helping Trump's campaign and attempting to get leverage on him to manipulate him, the sensational distraction is the getting dunked in piss
the artwork piss christ is a statement about the commercialization and commodification of christianity, as well as the hysteria surrounding icons and images. this fits in very well with who trump is, as above. also it's art of jesus being dunked in piss and we don't often have threads about people getting dunked in piss.
to the extent that piss christ was read as provocative and anti-christian, i feel the comparison is directly relevant, because any christian should surely be mortified by the behaviour discussed here; which is the graver threat to christianity? a piece of art that, at worst, disrespects plastic jesus, or a living icon to everything christianity ought guard against?
i actually honestly thought the post and the parallels would be obvious
1) trump frequently and at great length expounds on the influence his father had on him; he was in many senses the golden boy, groomed from early age for success and power. another word for golden boy is "boy king". "anointed" is another word for someone poised and groomed for success.
2) trump was elected in part thanks to supporters who create hagiographic images of him, including those of him with a halo around his head, and refer to him as a king, emperor, or god.
3) trump crassly embraces performative christianity for votes despite not apparently having any sincere engagement with faith; he is ultimately sacrilegious to an extreme. his personal brand is all about mammon, money, excess, and commercialism.
4) this is a thread about how trump likes being dunked in piss (or just watching people piss, it's unclear from context)
5) despite the fact that the real story here is Russian intelligence helping Trump's campaign and attempting to get leverage on him to manipulate him, the sensational distraction is the getting dunked in piss
the artwork piss christ is a statement about the commercialization and commodification of christianity, as well as the hysteria surrounding icons and images. this fits in very well with who trump is, as above. also it's art of jesus being dunked in piss and we don't often have threads about people getting dunked in piss.
to the extent that piss christ was read as provocative and anti-christian, i feel the comparison is directly relevant, because any christian should surely be mortified by the behaviour discussed here; which is the graver threat to christianity? a piece of art that, at worst, disrespects plastic jesus, or a living icon to everything christianity ought guard against?
i actually honestly thought the post and the parallels would be obvious
BlueTsunami
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It does not say they sent money to Romania.
...it's actually a sick reference, bro.
His tech people sound like they worked on computers that had tape reels and took up an entire floor of an office building if they think 650k emails, most of which are likely text only, can't fit on a single computer.
Piss Christ was made by a devout catholic
Edit: probably better to say the guy was actually religious and criticizing the church for distorting Jesus' message
Joe Shlabotnik
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There's nothing funny about not knowing about Piss Christ. I don't know the first fucking thing about art history and I know about this. Live in the world.
Lord Frieza
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I mean, that's pretty much the Trump team MO. Find a little doubt, and then deflect, deflect, deflect. Deflect to the dishonest media, the dishonest intelligence community, the dishonest reality around them, etc.
It was an art joke. Clearly too highbrow for you unaesthetic dunces.
How About No
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We're not laughing that a Jesus is dowsed in pissed, we're laughing that someone thought it was a good idea in the first place
To be fair, each email was a 5 minute 4k video of weiners weiner
morningbus
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Watersportsgate.
Oh, crap! I shouldn't have said it was August
Oh, crap! I certainly shouldn't have said I was in Italy
Their claim is they sent it to Rick Wilson, who talked to someone else, who put it in the report. Not saying this is true, that is just their story.
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Carl on CNN saying intelligence agencies have decided to investigate, and that is significant.
FlutterPuffs
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Thats a good symbolism, but I doubt most people can have understood what you mean easily.
Watercloset
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Perhaps some industrious journalist will make inquiries with Austria. They're the defacto middle man in this equation.
Plasticine
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I don't see a California tag there either.
Ninja Scooter
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I bet Reagan liked getting shit on, like a real American.
Hohohoh
Dude c'mon, this was a hell of a thread derail and you know it.
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Suikoguy
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This story is not going away.
This is great. Thank you for explaining the finer arts.
(It indeed was obvious. Just surprised you did it of all people)
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BronsonLee
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Carl saying McCain sent someone out to the investigator
If this motherfucker is the guy who has two Presidents' notches on his belt
If this motherfucker is the guy who has two Presidents' notches on his belt
Finale Fireworker
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It's kind of a meta-joke.
Piss Christ is used to illustrate something that is or isn't art. Piss Christ, as base and low-brow as it is, communicates an idea that resonates with its audience. Meaning, as crass as Piss Christ is, it is still art. It's used as a reminder that art has a function - to communicate an idea - and there are no rules in how that idea is communicated. It's used to help critics keep perspective when reviewing various forms of media. Just because something is a comic book or a zombie movie or South Park or a jar of pee, it doesn't mean it can't be art.
Piss Christ itself is a joke because people hate it but they have to accept it. It's so basic and easy and dumb, but it works.
Maybe you knew all this already, though. I just wanted to explain it in case you thought it was just some religious tear down. The artist originally was making a comment about religious iconography being cheapened (the crucifix itself is plastic).
I also see Stump has clarified their intention below.
Denial. Which I hope prompts exposure.
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