Republicans panicking now that Trump's nomination seems like a realistic possibility

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ivysaur12 said:
Or, hey, when I explain why people feel this way:



Here is what demographic inevitability looks like:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-the-2020-elections-yes-you-read-that-right/

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Virginia votes the way it does now because, yes, demographic changes, but also because Democrats in 2008 and 2012 actually made an effort to identify and get voters out to the polls. Same for North Carolina in 2008. Obama didn't make as big an effort in North Carolina in 2012 and it showed - but still impressive that he barely lost the state. If Clinton doesn't seriously contest North Carolina, then it won't vote for her. But if she does, it probably will end up in the Democratic column.

Georgia, though, that's just wishful thinking. And South Carolina? Forget it.
 
I'm afraid knowing that another Democrat might win. The rhetoric has become so increasingly hate driven that I just know we're going to see some massacres following a democratic victory.
 
I think he's immune to being negatively affected by a dug up scandal. It's pretty crazy, but its almost true. Trump has that kind of effect on his supporters
 
Alcotholic said:
If he gets the nomination, I think there should be a GAF eats crow thread for all the people who said it wouldn't happen.
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Will there be an equivalent thread when he DOESN'T get the nomination? A lot of political newbies on GAF who think current polls reflect the future with certainty. I'll gladly post in an eating crow thread if he gets the nomination but the chances of that are a lot slimmer than a lot of people on here think (although higher than I initially thought). I'd put him getting the nomination somewhere between 10-15% currently.
 
orochi91 said:
Yea, I imagine his win will cause the GOP to fracture into different parties.

You'll have a moderate conservative one, and then the Trump party.

Possibly even a third one for the extreme far-right.
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That could be a good thing. Maybe give rise to a socially progressive conservative party. Wouldn't Trumps party be the extreme far right?
 
la flama blanca said:
I'm afraid knowing that another Democrat might win. The rhetoric has become so increasingly hate driven that I just know we're going to see some massacres following a democratic victory.
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Barack won twice and no revolution. An old white lady will calm them down, comparatively. They hate Hillary but Barack makes them legit froth.
 
SmokeMaxX said:
Will there be an equivalent thread when he DOESN'T get the nomination? A lot of political newbies on GAF who think current polls reflect the future with certainty. I'll gladly post in an eating crow thread if he gets the nomination but the chances of that are a lot slimmer than a lot of people on here think (although higher than I initially thought). I'd put him getting the nomination somewhere between 10-15% currently.
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I was thinking either way actually. So sure. There would be an eat crow thread regardless of the outcome (I hope).
 
RustyNails said:
Why are they angry of Trump? Why do they fear him? Is it because he has aired the dirty laundry of GOP electorate? That being a racist, anti-government, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, fearmongering fascist can possibly win you the nomination of their party? Or is it the slow, burning, soul consuming realization of the fact that your party IS made up of these people, and Trump is just who your party wants?

Chumps. The lot of them. No one but themselves to blame. Trump is simply using the reservoir of hate the republican party has filled up. Can you really blame him is the question.
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Trump simply turned the frequency down on the dog whistle and discovered that regular whistle was even more attractive to the highly trained recipients.
 
Stinkles said:
Barack won twice and no revolution. An old white lady will calm them down, comparatively. They hate Hillary but Barack makes them legit froth.
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I'd say Hillary is also much more of an establishment candidate than Barack ever was or would've been. It'll probably be similar to how Clinton and Bush years were than Obama years. Plus, Hillary strong support for Israel, will ensure less issues. For them, the Kenyan muslim is out of office (you won't believe how many in the GOP base believe this still).
 
I hope he gets the GOP nom then Bernie Sanders will decimate him in the General Election.

Get ready for a Sanders presidency :)

Trump will feel the Bern on election night.
 
I wish there was a moderate candidate that didn't pander to the left or the right.

You party line dron...sorry "voters" are lucky, my candidate doesn't even exist. I have to vote for the lesser of two evils. Every. Single. Time.

Its infuriating.
 
They aren't panicking too hard. They're practical realist reactionists. If he gets in, they'll just switch to plan H, fog the field so much that they can pull some electoral college hijinx or get close enough in the election by some secretive, potentially unethical way.
 
Croatoan said:
I wish there was a moderate candidate that didn't pander to the left or the right.

You party line dron...sorry "voters" are lucky, my candidate doesn't even exist. I have to vote for the lesser of two evils. Every. Single. Time.

Its infuriating.
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Oh gee. I wonder why that is?
 
SmokeMaxX said:
Will there be an equivalent thread when he DOESN'T get the nomination? A lot of political newbies on GAF who think current polls reflect the future with certainty. I'll gladly post in an eating crow thread if he gets the nomination but the chances of that are a lot slimmer than a lot of people on here think (although higher than I initially thought). I'd put him getting the nomination somewhere between 10-15% currently.
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Lol ur dumb and so is nate silver lol. Dummies don't even know like we do.

/s
 
Ersatzkopf said:
Oh gee. I wonder why that is?
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Because the nation is completely polarized into two parties with rigid beliefs.

A dem can't be pro life and a repub can't be pro choice for example.

Its completely dumb. If there was a socially libral and fiscally conservative party that didn't have some of the moronic ideals as libertarians them maybe i would have a party line to safely follow.
 
Many leading Republican officials, strategists and donors now say they fear that Mr. Trump’s nomination would lead to an electoral wipeout, a sweeping defeat that could undo some of the gains Republicans have made in recent congressional, state and local elections.
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They're right, and it's going to be awesome. You built this demon, now deal with the consequences.

How many defeats will it take before the GOP distances itself from some of the extremist rhetoric it embraces now?
 
ivysaur12 said:
This is your BEST CASE map if Trump is the nominee. As in, Hillary runs a mediocre campaign, the economy stalls, etc:

Here is Hillary's best case map. As in, she runs a flawless campaign, the economy continues to slowly improve, Obama runs at 46%-48% approval, Trump continues to be Trump and maybe says something so inflammatory about Hillary in public that it comes off as brazenly sexist:

It would also mean that even Senate and House Republicans who were considered safe would face longer odds if their challengers could complete full sentences.
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This is nonsense and you're getting way too far ahead of yourself. Romney beat Obama by 16 points in Texas despite Obama winning 52-47 nationally (e.g. by 5 points overall). To win in Texas assuming a uniform national swing, Clinton or Sanders would have to win by 60-39. That's not going to happen. It'd be a larger margin than Reagan-Mondale and a larger swing than Reagan-Mondale at the same time. That's just picking a random example; most of your maps are nonsense.

Realistically, it is somewhat unlikely that any state that is not Florida, Ohio, Virginia, or North Carolina will flip. The best case Hillary map is Obama's 2012 plus North Carolina, Georgia, and Nebraska's 2nd district. Her worst case map is Obama's 2012 minus Florida and Ohio.
 
Karma is a bitch. You stir up the crazies enough and eventually they will come back and kick you in the ass with their tea party boot
 
Croatoan said:
I wish there was a moderate candidate that didn't pander to the left or the right.

You party line dron...sorry "voters" are lucky, my candidate doesn't even exist. I have to vote for the lesser of two evils. Every. Single. Time.

Its infuriating.
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What? You are a political coward if you really mean what you say, you want to make no choice but still say that you voted.

Read some political literature and make up your mind. Voting for a visonless candidate is voting for stagnation because you are afraid to work towards a better world.
 
I really don't know what to make of Trump's candidacy, esp. given the increasingly likely chance he could make it to the general election, but this alone has me thinking it could be worth it:

...some of the party’s wealthiest and most generous donors have balked at trying to take down Mr. Trump because they fear a public feud with the insult-spewing media figure. Others warn that doing so might backfire at a time of soaring anger toward political insiders.
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He's basically got the party running scared because he's not afraid to just pull the curtain back and expose their true intentions and any dirty laundry they may have. He mostly dispenses with the dog whistles and they can't operate effectively with that much sunlight cast upon their motivations.
 
GavinGT said:
We need someone new to go to bat for Trump around here. Will you be that poster?
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There's a lot of room between "I think it's funny that someone claimed Clinton doesn't pander" and "I support Donald Trump for president."

The former is the opinion of any rational person with working eyes and ears. The latter is an opinion on par with "Hillary Clinton is the candidate who doesn't pander."
 
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