Dog Problems
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They cover much, much worse than that yet they can't give a single article to a game that, chances are, will be pretty good.
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Republique Kickstarter by Ryan Payton - NOW FOR PC AND MAC! [Ended, $555K funded]
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They cover much, much worse than that yet they can't give a single article to a game that, chances are, will be pretty good.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
It really saddens me, how many people are "donating" just because it is now coming to the computer. If they really wanted to fund the project, they just would have donated before all of this.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Huh?
You're saying that people should have funded the project out of good will even if it wasn't going to appear on a platform they owned/wanted to play the game on?
All of the Kickstarter threads have had similar wording, I think. Of course, they all quickly surpassed their original goals, so for the most part "funded" was completely accurate. Oh well, 100k sounds a lot better than "20% of the goal met!"
Dog Problems
Banned
Why would they fund something they couldn't play?
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I think I'm past the looking glass now. I honestly can't tell if this is trolling.
I have no Idevices, now I'm backing the project. You've made me realize what a horrible person I am.
This game is getting made regardless, so I wouldn't worry about a release.
Just pledged my 20 bucks towards the project!
Do you work for Touch Arcade? If not, you should. I hear they are always hiring for smart people like you.
Just pledged my 20 bucks towards the project!
Do you work for Touch Arcade? If not, you should. I hear they are always hiring for smart people like you.
im sure platform did play a role in this, but I still reckon the lack of an established fan-base played a bigger role. shadowrun and wasteland both succeeded with concept art and simple promises, while republique is actually real.
basically, I blame everybody for playing it safe.
basically, I blame everybody for playing it safe.
Kickstarter is not a charity, it's a middleman for investment opportunities.
Banner Saga says otherwise.
A successful kickstarter is a mix of concept, credentials, rewards, timing, and exposure, among other things. Having an established fanbase helps but it's possible to get something funded provided you do your research.
You can't blame them. You can't ignore the player-base on computers (PC & Mac). Some people don't consider seriously iOS games (which is kind of ridiculous, when you take into account the huge potential player-base). In my case, I pledged thanks to the last "The Banner Saga" update, since I never heard of the game before.
Honestly, I think that limiting the game to iOS devices was a mistake from their part. The market is there, but the mentality hasn't evolved yet to that point (though I could be mistaken).
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Again, difficult but not hopeless. If we get about 20k a day leading up to the final push, it's still possible.
Father_Brain
Banned
Alright it looks like we're getting some traction here:
If we can pull about $20k a day leading up to the final hours, this thing still has a legitimate chance.
I think your math is off. With 14 days, 1 hour, and 20 minutes left as I post this, a 20K/day average from here on out would total a bit over $280K, leaving time running out at right around $400K.
They needed an absolutely massive boost from the PC/Mac announcement, not a merely decent one. Unfortunately, it appears they're receiving the latter.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
I'm accounting for the ending spike. If we're in the realm of 400k with a couple days to go, I believe the project will make it.
PastorOfMuppets
Banned
That's what I was thinking. I know the iOS market is massive but how many of those people boought their device with gaming as one of their two or three intended purposes? I can't even think of a reason to buy an iPAD and I have a pretty powerful Android phone that I use only for calling people and browsing the internet when I don't have a computer in hand. I'm not particularly interested in games on either platform. I don't even have games on my laptop.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Too busy getting paid by EA.
Interfectum
Member
pledged $20... make it steamworks please.
Father_Brain
Banned
I hope you're right, but they're unlikely to get to $400K, let alone make $33-50K/day in the final few days, if the post-PC/Mac spike is only tracking toward the low $20K range for the first full day.
Er... you do know you can remove pledges? Given that, your point makes no sense. Game changes, if you're not happy, remove pledge if it bothers you that much, there, problem solved.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
The outcome will likely hinge on further coverage and spread via the grassroots. Today has been bigger than yesterday since a couple PC sites picked it up. If there's more coverage tomorrow, tomorrow might be even bigger. Who knows? It's absolutely a challenge but I'm not writing it off as dead just yet.
There have been some new IPs that have done very well on Kickstarter. Banner Saga raised $720,000ish and FTL raised about 200,000 despite asking for $10,000 originally.
At the moment, Kickstarting is a very PC centric place when it comes to gaming. Most likely because of Doublefine and Wasteland being the first two huge games to be funded.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Quiet, they don't like logic.
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Deleted member 17706
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This also might be a big part of it. With Shadowrun and Wasteland, those guys were all very honest that their games would simply not be getting made if their Kickstarters weren't successful. Same with Double Fine. Not only was it cool games and goodies to buy, it was a chance to fund something that otherwise simply wouldn't have happened.
With Republique, the way they positioned it was quite different. They had a polished demo of the game to show off. They were obviously already quite a ways a long in the development, and they hinted at turning to outside investors/publishers was completely an option or was going to happen to some extent regardless of the Kickstarter's success. Why did they turn to Kickstarter? So they wouldn't have to depend on any single investor as much and thus could keep the IP rights and complete creative control.
Definitely a less exciting proposition for a lot of people, in my opinion. Less urgency.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Just busted the 120k mark. Keep in mind that we were at 96k before the announcement.
Dog Problems
Banned
I'm hoping they show off the case, t-shirt, and hoodie.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
All the big KS get good spikes after announcements, it's just this one waited too long and now has to condense a moths worth into 2 weeks.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
i usually buy games for platforms i don't own. it's a thing i have, some people say it's weird.
Dog Problems
Banned
Is it something from today or the previous stuff?
There was no way in hell I was going to fund an ios game, even more so when I don't even have an ipad or iphone. The RPS article has me considering it now though, but I still have concerns.
This really makes no sense, and this comes from someone who did back the project as a non-iOS gamer.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Oh shit, it's personal now!
Did we hurt your feelings Eli? Thanks again for helping to push Republique to PC. Love you, seriously.
Did we hurt your feelings Eli? Thanks again for helping to push Republique to PC. Love you, seriously.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
lol, this is getting out of hand
Love to see how he's playing the victim after how he acted. A real classy person.
The Berghammer bump.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Hodapp is just a childish brat who can't deal with criticism.
Lost any respect for him the moment "shitfarter" left his brain and drooled onto the keyboard.
Lost any respect for him the moment "shitfarter" left his brain and drooled onto the keyboard.
Femmeworth
Banned
Who? Must be some irrelevant person.Oh shit, it's personal now!
Did we hurt your feelings Eli? Thanks again for helping to push Republique to PC. Love you, seriously.
He's getting flak on his own forums too http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=129326&page=11
Oh shit, it's personal now!
Did we hurt your feelings Eli? Thanks again for helping to push Republique to PC. Love you, seriously.
I knew checking this thread would pay off eventually. Laughs were had!
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Zeouterlimits
Member
It's funny how he complains about NeoGAF being cynical about "casual" games and yet has been nothing but cynical about this project since Day 1, now feeling further empowered in his cynicism because it's coming to the PC.
Reminds me of The Fanboy's Lament, the Idle Thumbs song about the Tekken going multiplatform "scandal".