GametimeUK
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I don't think not being able to aim and shoot at the same time in a game that's balanced around not being able to aim and shoot at the same time is a bad thing. In actual fact I really it in RE4.
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Resident Evil 4 aged like milk and plays like trash
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RE5 had horrid level and encounter design, the on-rails segments were trash and the boss fights were mostly lame. The forced co-op didn't help. At least it's pretty and plays smooth.
Neff
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Great game but no. It's slower, shorter, easier, simpler, and more linear than RE4, in addition to not being quite as wildly creative or memorable as Mikami's game. Withholding the flashback chapter for DLC when we already knew they were working on it long before the game was finished was also a dick move.
Still a damn good ride though, and the co-op was fun.
GigaBowser
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I started a thread on this before.
The shooting in the new RE's is floaty unresponsive crap compared to RE4.
Noobs look at the not be able to run and shoot thing, which is a design choice, and can't see that RE4 has much better actual shooting.
+The way enemies react to your shots/weapon feedback is sublime. Shoot knee & suplex never gets old. People hating on this game are clueless plebs pretending they're "sophisticated".
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Hopefully they have alternative and better scenarios for a lot of nonsense moments in the game. I have high hopes for the remake and I believe they will make it a lot better than the original.
As Mikami said "I Hope They Make the Story Better"
Also there is a mode called re4 tweaks which fixed a lot of shit for me like FOV, laser sight ..etc god bless the guy behind it.
As Mikami said "I Hope They Make the Story Better"
I played the game twice before with controller, and the control sucks so bad. it's the biggest flaw in this game for me, but recently I played with the Mouse and Keyboard!and it's 100x better than the controller.
Also there is a mode called re4 tweaks which fixed a lot of shit for me like FOV, laser sight ..etc god bless the guy behind it.
Signal Rockets
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I'm half and half with RE4, quite frankly. I've always been somewhat narky about it because I don't think it fits in well with the canon, and the style of it is vastly different to anything the previous games offered up. It's like an action game mostly with shades of the horror genre scattered around.
That isn't to say I want it burned, LOL. But I do blame the game for kind of ruining the franchise a lot. The series has certainly gotten incredibly weirder by the next game after RE4. I'm always gonna prefer the older games, despite the crappy PlayStation era graphics, which aren't really crappy as such. They are just pretty darn ancient.
Yeah. Everybody's opinion is different. But generally, yes. RE4 was the beginning of the downfall of the franchise. There's no point in really saying it was RE8, or 5 or 6 even, when 4 instigated these changes in the lore.
That isn't to say I want it burned, LOL. But I do blame the game for kind of ruining the franchise a lot. The series has certainly gotten incredibly weirder by the next game after RE4. I'm always gonna prefer the older games, despite the crappy PlayStation era graphics, which aren't really crappy as such. They are just pretty darn ancient.
Yeah. Everybody's opinion is different. But generally, yes. RE4 was the beginning of the downfall of the franchise. There's no point in really saying it was RE8, or 5 or 6 even, when 4 instigated these changes in the lore.
GenericUser
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finished the game again over the weekend. What can I say. Is it dated? sure. Is it mediocre or bad? Hell no. The pacing is just soooo close to perfection and each scene almost feels like its own mini-game in itself. A true masterpiece of game design. I wish most modern games had 50% of the care and love that was put into this gem. Can't wait for the remake. I love this game.
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sainraja
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Nah, that's a very stupid way to create tension. In Resident Evil Revelations, you can still employ the same strategy that they try forcing on you in RE4, the difference is, you make the decision if you are going to stop and try to shoot them or back away while shooting them (and not be as accurate). Can't believe you are saying this in a time where we have the RE2/3 Remakes.
People are able to move and shoot. Forcing players to have to stop is just a stupid way to add tension to any game lol.
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sainraja
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I think he was saying the PS3 version also has the same options. You seem to be saying it doesn't? If not, then nevermind.
Deerock71
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The only reason I don't jump back in is because I remember how badly it kicks your ass the first time through. Playing it with all your collected weapons a second time through (and several more) and laughing at how pathetic they were on subsequent playthroughs spoiled me.
Reizo Ryuu
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That's not what he was saying
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Gambit2483
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sainraja
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Sure, I thought he was just saying he didn't know the versions were any different from each other. I will just let him clarify if there is anything to clarify....otherwise, continue.
When he said "Didn't know PS3 version was any different", I thought he was just saying that he wasn't aware of any differences in the PS3 version (which he was basing his response on). Anyway, I don't really care....got confused so I chimed in with what I understood.
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HumanoidSharks
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RE4 might be the most overrated game of all time.
Fahdis
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Not everyone has the same depth as your potato mind because others want an emotional connection to the narratives and stories. Some of us don't just go pew pew to distract ourselves from some sort of anger or misery that you're projecting at the moment. Go back to your past COD days in MP and stay there. Imagine thinking movies are a better way of active involvement when all you're doing is sitting there passively drooling at MCU movies. 180 IQ indeed, you need braincells first to at least form an argument.
TLZ
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winjer
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Skyrim.
Iced Arcade
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Better get something to treat that lactose intolerance.
Just replayed on the Quest 2 and it was god damn good!
Just replayed on the Quest 2 and it was god damn good!
Signal Rockets
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Ristifer
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Imagine taking the story in a JILL SANDWICH type of game seriously. The series was a cheesefest from the get go but sure Mr. potato mind, that's the kind of series one should expect to have a deep plot/"emotional connection" to. Because gaming is at its best when it takes control away from the player to shove third rate hollywood writing and cinematics at every moment.
Huh?
What was your "argument" again? That videogames should be played as if they were videogames? hmm.
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Justin9mm
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I feel like you shouldn't hold back so much and tell us how you really feel?
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It's odd how people only have an issue with it in RE4, when RE5 had the same stop & shoot mechanics many years later and I've never heard anyone complain.
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Neff
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RE5 and 6 did have the ability to strafe unlike 4, so that's probably why.
That said, the vast majority of TPS strafe mechanics amount to little more than lazy aiming and offer little or no evasive benefits whatsoever. In fact strafing in RE6 isn't recommended because it's all too easy to accidentally glue yourself to cover without intending to.
Eddie-Griffin
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I had played a few games including Freedom Fighters before Resident Evil 4 which made the games controls imprecise, and finnicky to me. Where a game like FF played more like a modern tps.
The game had a good start but it felt like I was pushing myself to finish the second half. The game changed the tone and gameplay for RE that many fans hate yet they give this game a pass on some of the same things they complain about for 5 and 6.
The game had a good start but it felt like I was pushing myself to finish the second half. The game changed the tone and gameplay for RE that many fans hate yet they give this game a pass on some of the same things they complain about for 5 and 6.
Yeah. You can move ever so slowly while aiming/shooting in RE6, so I guess it didn't trigger the same kneejerk reaction, although I don't think it changes much.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Nothing else needs to be said.
kiphalfton
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You essentially have to stop and aim in RE2 and RE3 Remake... which makes moving while aiming completely useless.
Like you said, RE4 has extremely tight gameplay. It's not on the level of MGS5, BUT it also doesn't have that same freedom. Besides that one example, RE4 is still better than 99% of the games that followed it, including the sequels.
01011001
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yeah, I guess some people are really allergic to control schemes that aren't the absolute default genre schemes it seems
hemo memo
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I do. The majority of PS1 games are terrible to play now.
01011001
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they were always terrible to play, no game changes over time, your standards change, so the game didn't age, you did.
Street Fighter 2 always played well, Mortal Kombat always played like shit...
nothing changed.
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Signal Rockets
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I still wish they had ended the Umbrella arc properly. 
This is some Invasion of the Body Snatchers level nonsense.
This is some Invasion of the Body Snatchers level nonsense.
light2x
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Yep, the 16 bit games have aged far, far better than PS1/N64 games.
Replayed it (original GC version) earlier this year, after not gaving played it since the PS2 release (must have played it at least 10 times back then).
Even today, it is still every bit the masterpiece it was back then. The production values are phenomenal and the grapchics still gorgeous and stylish.
The gameplay mechanics are so refined it's absurd. It's all about planning, fast timings and scene management. It's the kind of game that has endless replay value due to it's perfectly fine tunned encounters.
Even today, it is still every bit the masterpiece it was back then. The production values are phenomenal and the grapchics still gorgeous and stylish.
The gameplay mechanics are so refined it's absurd. It's all about planning, fast timings and scene management. It's the kind of game that has endless replay value due to it's perfectly fine tunned encounters.
Signal Rockets
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If people like 4, I think 5 should be up their alley. Minus Sheva, of course.
There's barely any difference in how they play.
There's barely any difference in how they play.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
5 actually among my favorites in term of gameplay. Very close behind 4. I remember the stupid outrage at the time. Imagine if I believed that outrage and missed one of my favorite games. Dare I say even 6 is fun to play.
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