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RESIDENT EVIL 7 biohazard Ships Over Three Million Worldwide!
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Is quite amusing now. Gems like
Sometimes a bit of optimism and faith isn't a bad thing.
Is quite amusing now. Gems like
Sometimes a bit of optimism and faith isn't a bad thing.
Well,i hope Capcom feels more confident now and they give more support,budget for RE8.
Hopefully, the team behind 7 can focus more on the game itself now that they have more experience with the engine and all the vr stuff.
I just want RE8 to be a lengthier version of 7 with more enemy variety,more complex areas and level design.
Hopefully, the team behind 7 can focus more on the game itself now that they have more experience with the engine and all the vr stuff.
I just want RE8 to be a lengthier version of 7 with more enemy variety,more complex areas and level design.
Survival horror has been pretty healthy since 2010~ though, the fact that Capcom ignored it and continued raping one of the genre's biggest franchises with some TPS abominations doesn't mean we didn't have some of the greatest survival horror games ever.
I'm sorry some of you feel the need to have more action in this series. The fear is why I played these games in the first place and I've been waiting for YEARS for a return to form just like this one. This will be day one when ever I get a ps4 for sure and while It may not be first person I hope they keep this balance of scary and action and not add more action unless they add a character that is more experienced in fighting, like that dlc that's coming out.
Wow that thread is gold. All the haters gonna hate.
Jawmuncher
Member
I think a lot of people are missing a big point.
Survival Horror fans got neglected for all those years and finally got something with 7. That's good.
However I don't think anyone unless you're an ass. Should be "well I suffered without my favorite style RE game so now it's your turn".
I think that's where the biggest arguments lie. Since people try to play this card that their preferred style is the only true answer for the series. I stand firm that the styles can co-exist. Especially with RE7 having a cheaper budget. It should hopefully mean they can spread the wealth around for RE. So action games if they do happen aren't on a happy meal budget like Rev 2.
Technically at this point . Action fans haven't had anything since RE6. Which is coming up at 5 years. Umbrella Corps was whatever the he'll, and Rev 2 has less action than even RE4. So it doesn't fit the bill.
Survival Horror fans got neglected for all those years and finally got something with 7. That's good.
However I don't think anyone unless you're an ass. Should be "well I suffered without my favorite style RE game so now it's your turn".
I think that's where the biggest arguments lie. Since people try to play this card that their preferred style is the only true answer for the series. I stand firm that the styles can co-exist. Especially with RE7 having a cheaper budget. It should hopefully mean they can spread the wealth around for RE. So action games if they do happen aren't on a happy meal budget like Rev 2.
Technically at this point . Action fans haven't had anything since RE6. Which is coming up at 5 years. Umbrella Corps was whatever the he'll, and Rev 2 has less action than even RE4. So it doesn't fit the bill.
Great news for Capcom. RE7 definitely deserves all of the acclaim it's received. It's managed to feel fresh and yet still classic Resi at it's core.
I don't think there is a polarizing argument I enjoy more than the action RE vs. horror RE one. The past few months have been gold.
What people often forget is that there is an entire generation of gamers to whom Resi has always been the 4/5/6 action style. Resi 4 released in what '04, '05? It was action for over ten years. It doesn't make action fans wrong for wanting it that way, for them 7 could be as jarring as 4 was for the horror purists.
Resi is probably my most beloved gaming series, I started with 4 (played through 3 briefly as a kid but was too young to "get" it), and have played nearly every release since. I adore 7, and just hope they keep on coming up with fresh ideas to keep the series alive.
I don't think there is a polarizing argument I enjoy more than the action RE vs. horror RE one. The past few months have been gold.
What people often forget is that there is an entire generation of gamers to whom Resi has always been the 4/5/6 action style. Resi 4 released in what '04, '05? It was action for over ten years. It doesn't make action fans wrong for wanting it that way, for them 7 could be as jarring as 4 was for the horror purists.
Resi is probably my most beloved gaming series, I started with 4 (played through 3 briefly as a kid but was too young to "get" it), and have played nearly every release since. I adore 7, and just hope they keep on coming up with fresh ideas to keep the series alive.
Spiral Insanity
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One of the best gaming experiences of the year.
It really needn't be one or the other.
Resident Evil 7 could (and in my opinion, should) represent a bit of a soft reboot for the series. If you loosely follow the path of the series to this point, Resident Evil 2 managed to retain the core elements of the first game while expanding the scope, environments and action. There's absolutely room to do that for a theoretical Resident Evil 8 without losing all the bits people liked of 7.
Nobody should be suffering either way. The series can continue to cater for both, like I believe it did pretty well during 2, 3 and (to a much lesser extent on the horror, admittedly) 4. 5 and 6 are the only games which absolutely ditch horror but those game are incredibly variable in terms of impressions anyway.
UziTheBeast
Banned
People really understimate the brand Resident Evil. It's a mainline game of course it would sell well. It's having big launch number since RE4.
Now ask yourself, without the name Resident Evil, would this game be doing the same numbers? I highly doubt it.
That said I like the game. Halfway through and it's a solid 7 (and increasing ever since I'm using the Olympia shotgun) for me.
Now ask yourself, without the name Resident Evil, would this game be doing the same numbers? I highly doubt it.
That said I like the game. Halfway through and it's a solid 7 (and increasing ever since I'm using the Olympia shotgun) for me.
Barry Burton
Member
Great to hear, I hope it's successful for them. RE7 is good but has a lot of flaws that they can hopefully address in a sequel, should they continue in this direction with RE8.
ArkkAngel007
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About 5.5 million iirc, while RE5 was about 6.5.
SaniOYOYOY
Member
well deserve. Too bad I probably will pass this, first person horror scared me to death. My father is already all over this game tho
nkarafo
Member
FYI, Resident Evil started as a survival horror game... so using your own logic, if Capcom wanted a dumb action game with no survival horror elements, they should have just made a new IP or something...
For me, the RE franchise was dead after RE4. I couldn't even stand RE6 for more than 30 minutes. But this game bought me back. I hope they continue with the survival horror design, exploration and atmosphere vs action. I don't mind about it being FPS or 3rd person though, anything is good.
I want RE8 in the style of RE7 but with lite glory kills ala Doom2016.
Contextual roundhouse kicks, maneuvers that ad to the gameplay. I thought we might have got it with RE7 the way you kick open the door in the demo leaving the basement.
I got a feeling RE7 is a one-time thing, RE8 will return to what people are familiar with.
Contextual roundhouse kicks, maneuvers that ad to the gameplay. I thought we might have got it with RE7 the way you kick open the door in the demo leaving the basement.
I got a feeling RE7 is a one-time thing, RE8 will return to what people are familiar with.
Psycho_Mantis
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So glad RE7 is doing well, even relative to RE6. Survival horror is a genre that needs RE. Horror games these days are either glorified action shooters or focus heavily on hiding or running. While the latter was novel at a time, its often braindead and not nearly as scary as actually facing up to your fears in constrained environments.
Thats what makes RE7 a good GAME.
Thats what makes RE7 a good GAME.
UziTheBeast
Banned
No need to get hostile. "Dumb action game" is a typical elitist comment. The sales figures of RE4-5-6 clearly show that a lot of people like the action element of RE and the games definitely had elements of BOTH survival and horror.
The difference in RE 1-2-3 and RE 4-5-6 is that the first three parts had archaic gameplay and 4-5-6 had modern gameplay and added melee attacks. But in all 6 you have to fight for survival against monsters. Plus all six have share the same story/universe/characters and most importantly, the perspective.
EDIT: Ah you edited your post. Good job.
nkarafo
Member
I was used to the exploration, survival horror gameplay of the original RE trilogy. After that, i thought they dumbed it down significantly. The sales figures aren't surprising, the original RE games weren't very digestible for the mainstream crowd. I mean isn't "dumbing down" something that many developers do in order to give their older franchises a mainstream appeal?
By archaic/modern you mean controls right? I assume you don't mean that survival horror games with more exploration and caution than action are archaic by design.
Edit: At the end of the day, there are many action games out there, with lots of shooting and cool moves. It's a good thing that some survival horror games get created to spice things up a bit. Especially when we are talking about a franchise that was survival horror from the start.
I didn't change anything, i just added my own opinion of the game below.
giancarlo123x
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My favorite part of this game was nothing being a one man army and forcing you to avoid conflict if you didn't have anything to defend yourself. With word of mouth I think this will end up being one of the best selling entries in the series.
Jawbreaker
Member
Let It Die.
nuttyevans
Member
Very glad it's doing well
Now all they need to do is take this foundation, build off it and we'll be looking at a proper classic.
Now all they need to do is take this foundation, build off it and we'll be looking at a proper classic.
nkarafo
Member
This.
My favorite part of this game was nothing being a one man army and forcing you to avoid conflict if you didn't have anything to defend yourself.
It's supposed to be survival horror. It's not about non-stop action, heavy metal, cool moves and Matrix slow mo. And i'm extremely happy that this game sells well without these elements. Maybe this means other devs will follow and we can have more representatives of the genre as there are barely any games like this nowadays.
Jawmuncher
Member
I was a one man army in RE2 and 3 though
nkarafo
Member
You can be a one man army in RE7 too if you finished the game and know what you are doing. But in the first play-though you are always way more cautious. It happens with all games obviously but in pure action games there is less tension and you never feel the need of reserving resources and ammo.
onken
Member
Now ask yourself if trash like RE6 with a worse story than Vanquish and worse gameplay than Binary Domain would have sold anywhere near what it did without the Resident Evil name. I highly doubt it.
With RE7 being a success and them saying they want to do more VR after seeing it's success with it... why would they make RE8 go back to the old style?
Jawmuncher
Member
Worse gameplay than Binary Domain?
Nah son. I can accept it having a weaker campaign. I won't defend the mess they made with a lot of the sections.
But the core gameplay of RE6 is great. Mercenaries is proof enough of that.
Can't have anybody talking smack about Binary Domain, using that as a benchmark for bad gameplay (I presume was your intention?). It was an excellent shooter.
Also trying to paint gameplay with a good/bad brush is pretty unwise. It's all subjective yadda yadda...
UziTheBeast
Banned
Say what you want about the story but the gameplay was TIGHT in RE6. The gameplay in Binary Domain isn't even bad... It seems you just like simplistic controls.
And please tell me how you WOULDN'T name part 6 Resident Evil with all the high profile characters of the franchise in it? You would have to change all characters and the story not only the name of the game.
MiamiWesker
Member
Well deserved. Should hit 5 million one day.
Loving that thread. Also people actually thought mainline RE title couldn't ship even 2 million?
What. Binary Domain is one of the best third person shooters. Certainly the best one Japan ever made by far. It's really fun and the mechanics are great. What are you talking about?
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Oh boy, here was my big ole post in the thread at the time, I was curious since I new I did a big write-up.
Looking back fun~ Some of the people in the thread were way to pessimistic. Some people saying being pessimistic is being a "realist", but going by the brand, series sales history, etc., some people were ridiculous thinking the game wouldn't even sell 1 million or stuff like that.
tintin1029
Member
One thing I'll have to agree with duckroll and Jawmuncher on is this:
There really isn't anything like the combat of RE6, despite everyone lieing and saying "Hey there's so many games like it, go play those instead you franchise ruiner."
Hey it's not their fault Capcom probably made the most satisfying combat system in a tps. It's the Devil May Cry of third person shooters.
While I absolutely want RE to stay horror in the long run. The core of RE6 has huge potential and I don't want it to go away either, personally.
There really isn't anything like the combat of RE6, despite everyone lieing and saying "Hey there's so many games like it, go play those instead you franchise ruiner."
Hey it's not their fault Capcom probably made the most satisfying combat system in a tps. It's the Devil May Cry of third person shooters.
While I absolutely want RE to stay horror in the long run. The core of RE6 has huge potential and I don't want it to go away either, personally.
Lol, some good stuff right there!
ethomaz
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UziTheBeast
Banned
Exactly my thoughts. RE6 was basically the DMC of TPS. No other shooter has guns and melee the way RE6 had. Yet people prefere the terrible ass shooting and controls in RE1-2-3 and even 7.
TheRedSnifit
Member
I disagree, but I guess it depends on your definition. Way I see it, there's three different variations of horror:
Action-horror: RE4, Dead Space, etc.
"Pure" horror: Amnesia, Outlast, etc.
Survival horror: Resident Evil, System Shock 2
So while we've gotten plenty of horror games, most of them fall into the first two categories and go either full action or zero action. There are very few that are actually similar to the old RE games in that they de-emphasize action while still allowing the player to defend themselves. There's RE7, Alien: Isolation, FNaF, ZombiU, and . . . ?
Jawmuncher
Member
Exactly. This is where I stand. RE can go back to horror and all that. I just don't want this gameplay to die more than anything.
dragonlife
Member
I cross my fingers every day for another standalone Mercs game with RE6 mechanics. All platforms. Selectable music from a mix of old, new, and original tracks. Interchangeable loadouts like Mercs 3D. Online co-op. A huge cast of characters. Lots of stages.
I want to believe.
(Mercs 3D was amazing)