plagiarize said:
I used Type C. Being able to strafe was quite handy.
http://www.danbirlew.com/resident-evil-5-demo-walkthrough-controls/
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Resident Evil: Revival Selection |OT| RE4 and REC:VX now in HD!
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I used Type C. Being able to strafe was quite handy.
http://www.danbirlew.com/resident-evil-5-demo-walkthrough-controls/
The Mana Legend
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Despite being one of those coolest boss fights ever back in the day, the Del Lago fight has aged really damn poorly.
I think most reviewers are struggling with the fact that the smoke and mirrors used in the original RE4 have been cast away.
Capcom used several creative visual tricks to maximize performance of the game in situations that would otherwise be impossible. For example, the standard Ganado has at least three different character models... different polygon models depending on where they are in a cutscene. The low resolution masked a lot of these tricks, but in HD they're there for the world to see. Correct me if there's something more to it than this.
Capcom used several creative visual tricks to maximize performance of the game in situations that would otherwise be impossible. For example, the standard Ganado has at least three different character models... different polygon models depending on where they are in a cutscene. The low resolution masked a lot of these tricks, but in HD they're there for the world to see. Correct me if there's something more to it than this.
plagiarize
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right.Defunkled said:
let's also not forget that RE4 in SD isn't even in full SD it's 640 x 360 originally. this is a 4 x resolution upgrade.
By the way, just for kicks, I tried this out on my old Sony HD CRT display. The game looks absolutely killer on that display. It can't fully resolve 720p (true of nearly every HDTV CRT), but it accepts and displays it. The resulting image is very clean and smooth while the lower quality assets are slightly obscured by the lower resolution. It's so much cleaner than the GC version on the same TV.
On my plasma, well, I still think it looks good enough, but you can definitely see its age (as expected). Unlike some of the other HD collections, RE4 was designed with a very realistic appearance to its environments. I feel it was one of the first games to attempt to deliver the kind of detail we've grown used to in Unreal Engine 3 games. It's very gritty and full of debris. As it was originally displayed in a very low resolution (sub 640x480), however, many of its limitations were hidden by the CRTs of that era.
Look at something like MGS2, for instance. That game uses very simple, clean shapes to form its environments. It doesn't attempt to render gritty details and, instead, focuses on very clean surfaces and post processing. It's basically Super Mario World (MGS2) to Donkey Kong Country (RE4) in terms of how they've aged.
I think a little extra post processing could really have helped RE4. Would have also been excellent if they ported it to MT Framework and enhanced the lighting. Still, as it is, the visuals are the best you can get without resorting to emulation (which isn't perfect).
I really dislike how reviews keep throwing around the word "upscaled", however. That implies that the rendering resolution is still very low and scaled to 720p. 1280x720 is the native rendering resolution of these games. There is no upscaling occurring here.
On my plasma, well, I still think it looks good enough, but you can definitely see its age (as expected). Unlike some of the other HD collections, RE4 was designed with a very realistic appearance to its environments. I feel it was one of the first games to attempt to deliver the kind of detail we've grown used to in Unreal Engine 3 games. It's very gritty and full of debris. As it was originally displayed in a very low resolution (sub 640x480), however, many of its limitations were hidden by the CRTs of that era.
Look at something like MGS2, for instance. That game uses very simple, clean shapes to form its environments. It doesn't attempt to render gritty details and, instead, focuses on very clean surfaces and post processing. It's basically Super Mario World (MGS2) to Donkey Kong Country (RE4) in terms of how they've aged.
I think a little extra post processing could really have helped RE4. Would have also been excellent if they ported it to MT Framework and enhanced the lighting. Still, as it is, the visuals are the best you can get without resorting to emulation (which isn't perfect).
I really dislike how reviews keep throwing around the word "upscaled", however. That implies that the rendering resolution is still very low and scaled to 720p. 1280x720 is the native rendering resolution of these games. There is no upscaling occurring here.
plagiarize
Banned
i really wish i had one of those old CRT HDTV monsters. this game is made for one of them. hell, it has overscan compensation in the options menu.dark10x said:
i'll let experts be the judge next week, but from what i saw of CVX, that didn't look 720p native. maybe some blurring going on for anti aliasing, but it sure looked overly soft.
TheDrowningMan
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It's now up on the UK store - £11.99 standard / £6 PlayStation Plus are the current prices.
plagiarize said:
I'm not even sure RE4 is full 720p, there were thick black borders when I loaded up the game last night. Waiting on someone from B3D or DF to reveal what the actual resolution is. I'm pretty understanding to some of the other minor complaints regarding the graphics, but it's pretty sad if they couldn't even manage 1280x720 in this game.
Version 3.0
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GuardianE said:
You can see them, but they're still hard to spot. I think the game looks fantastic, though it's kind of funny that it still looks better on Dolphin. If it weren't for the sound issues on Dolphin, I wouldn't have bothered with this.
jetsetfluken
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Kind of pathetic that so many people are going to end up playing through with black borders because they didn't know there were screen adjustments in the Options menu. No idea why Capcom didn't just make the full widescreen default.
Anyway...
Are bottlecaps/shooting range any harder to beat on Professional?
I'd rather do my Normal playthrough without worrying about that and then do that on my Pro playthrough.
Anyway...
Are bottlecaps/shooting range any harder to beat on Professional?
I'd rather do my Normal playthrough without worrying about that and then do that on my Pro playthrough.
jetsetfluken said:
I don't think they change at all.
ULTROS! said:
You just get high scores in the shooting gallery. Do each several times (there are actually six separate formations, I think, at each location). I'm pretty sure you have to get close to perfect runs for all of them.
They didn't really update anything though. This is more or less a direct dump of the original assets, that's why you're noticing problems that weren't visible before.bigben85 said:
The original version never had a visible light beam, that was added to the PS2 port to "compensate" for the lack of real time illumination. The belt light is true to the GC original.bigben85 said:
GANGSTERKILLER
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dark10x said:
HD CRT TV, damn. True blacks, maximum viewing angle, best colors AND (almost) HD?! Can you post some pictures of RE 4 on this TV (and some other content if you will)?
Seraphinianus
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AgentOtaku said:
and if it were upgraded with new textures and move support, it would be $40, and people would still complain about "LOL HD remakes" and about having to re-buy the game. On top of that, Capcom would take liberties to "modernize" it and probably ruin the game balance in the process.
jediyoshi
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Achivement Hunter has a 4 way comparison of RE4's graphics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ct_MO4kveg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ct_MO4kveg
Seraphinianus
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Curufinwe said:
maybe it cost them 10 sales from the 10 guys that care enough.
zazrx said:
yes and yes
plagiarize
Banned
not the best comparison. 360 shouldn't have been bottom left in the four way, and i can't believe they used mostly cutscenes when the PS2 version is just showing video of the GC/Wii version during cutscenes.jediyoshi said:
plagiarize
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CVX seems to prefer the 360 version. i haven't been able to give both enough time to make a judgement. i'm sticking with the 360 version mainly though because the controller is more similar to the cube one, and i don't much like aiming with the dual shock stick.zazrx said:
plagiarize
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very much so. for $10 it's a no brainer for first timers.Tonza said:
it remains my favourite game of all time.
WrenchNinja
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Don't worry. RE4 is more action than it is horror.Tonza said:
Also one of my favorite games of all time.plagiarize said:
Checking out the preview screenshots on xbox live marketplace on my TV, the game looks like the contrast was reduced for this version. Does it really look so washed out, or are those just shitty screenshots up on live? The Wii version already looks about the same on my plasma.
EvaTType01
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played it last night, after the horrible long download....also downloaded the free RE1-3
i totally forgot the way leon aims, it kinda moves a little while aiming. i thought i was using the move and i was twitching a little or something haha ARGH, i really wish for move controls, cuz thats how i played RE5 ><;;; (when update came out)
Also.....is anybody irritated that on the old psx games, the run and action buttons are switched?!?!?! After playing RE5 and getting used that X is run and SQ is is shoot, then trying out the psx games with no way of revising the controls IRKS ME!
i totally forgot the way leon aims, it kinda moves a little while aiming. i thought i was using the move and i was twitching a little or something haha ARGH, i really wish for move controls, cuz thats how i played RE5 ><;;; (when update came out)
Also.....is anybody irritated that on the old psx games, the run and action buttons are switched?!?!?! After playing RE5 and getting used that X is run and SQ is is shoot, then trying out the psx games with no way of revising the controls IRKS ME!
Reclaimer said:Also one of my favorite games of all time.
Checking out the preview screenshots on xbox live marketplace on my TV, the game looks like the contrast was reduced for this version. Does it really look so washed out, or are those just shitty screenshots up on live? The Wii version already looks about the same on my plasma.
The game looks perfect on my 40" bravia, definetly not washed out.
If I have some time, I can try. Taking pictures of CRTs isn't all that easy, though, unfortunately.GANGSTERKILLER said:HD CRT TV, damn. True blacks, maximum viewing angle, best colors AND (almost) HD?! Can you post some pictures of RE 4 on this TV (and some other content if you will)?
That said, I still think my Kuro plasma bests the CRT when it comes to black performance. If anything bright appears on the CRT, it causes the brightness to increase. So, while showing dark material it may appear very dark, the second a brighter hud element is visible you lose some of that. Still very effective and much better than LCDs, but not quite as impressive as the Kuro (which really gives you the impression of jet black in all but the darkest of scenes).
Still, I loves me some CRTs. I have two Sonys still. One SD and one HD "VVega" CRTs. The SD is for my retro room while the HD is actually in the unfinished portion of my basement (so I don't use it often, but it's there if I need it).
TerryWogan
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Black borders? Mine doesn't have black borders and I haven't adjusted anything...