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RESISTANCE 2 - Hype Thread w/latest info
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JB1981 said:
That San Francisco level with the warships passing overhead inspires a bigger feeling of being drastically overwhelmed than even Half-Life 2 does (Half-Life 2 does it in a very gradual way where the Human race is enslaved), this is a full on attack, like a cleansing of a whole race. That's what I love about R2, it's as if it's almost hopeless.
Y2Kev said:
I found it to be very very inconsistent. The textures in the road and trees I thought looked awesome, but the textures on the truck look very bland, flat, and just destroy any sense of realism along with other little things that can be nitpicked.
oh thank god, this guy is obnoxiousAriexv said:
(I sort of agree with rod though. this isn't that impressive. the texturing isn't that great)
JB1981 said:
This is sorta what I mean. Some of the textures just make things look so flat with the lighting. The look really served the END of Resistance 1 with all the high-tech glowey blue stuff, but the city streets and Cheddar Gorge were really just boring looking.
Resistance 2 impresses me in one way so far...and it's scale. But like at E3, with the Leviathan bearing down on the player, the building you were running through is completely clean and really barren.
I don't know if this is Insomniac's approach to designing levels (simplicity in design, and yes, I know the game was a WIP), but it sort of reminded me of R1.
Make it dirtier.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
KGKK said:
not enough media to hype
<angrysmiley>
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Well I guess I takes allot more to make some of you guys happy, each to their own I suppose, I think sometimes it comes down to how you perceive things, I always tend to look at things from a distance, like the picture I posted, I look at the whole scene, I don't partially feel drawn into the smaller details of that scene, it's like art, sometimes when you get too up close and personal with it it loses it's beauty, step back a bit though and view it as a sum of it's parts and it works, the overrule scene looks wonderful.
It's not really a surprise to see Resistance with its non-gritty texture work in parts. I bet it's a remain from Insomniac's cartoon-styled games, it can be hard to overcome habits. 
Still, from what has been shown, this game won't be an all-round graphical powerhouse, and I don't want it to be; I just want Insomniac to return and increase the great scale, and make the game freaking stable without any tearing and frame drops. That will make me a happy panda.
Still, from what has been shown, this game won't be an all-round graphical powerhouse, and I don't want it to be; I just want Insomniac to return and increase the great scale, and make the game freaking stable without any tearing and frame drops. That will make me a happy panda.
Thank god Ariexv is gone, truly one of the most annoying trolls around here.
patsu said:The Leviathen level is not barren (They are littered with broken stuff). I think it's just the smooth gradient background textures. I suspect it's part of the scale formula.
Perhaps they can start dirtying small levels.
Well, Ted himself stated that the building was supposed to be on fire and they didn't add most of the effects/details.
Edit: Beaten
cjtiger300
Member
Bout time.
patsu said:The Leviathen level is not barren (They are littered with broken stuff). I think it's just the smooth gradient background textures. I suspect it's part of the scale formula.
Perhaps they can start dirtying small levels.
The scale was never a problem in the first game, you can probably cramp 60 people in Nottingham and it might still work very well, the level of details and overall art direction was the problem. Too many fake lights, not enough real dynamic lights, not enough contrast, not enough dirt, grit, destruction, the character models were fine, they were detailed, they just didn't cast shadows on themselves, the environments lack self-shadowing, the objects for the most part lacked self-shadowing, the interplay of light and shadows could have made things incredibly more dramatic. Physics is great but you need the proper lighting and shadowing, you blow something up all those debris would fly all over the place and you should see an increble display of shadows on the ground.
It's like in Army of Two where the ship was sinking and all those crates were just flying down, there was this incredible sense of chaos, there was this incredible sense of urgency and speed, that was what R1 lacked. The gameplay scenarios in R1 was good, it just lacked that extra level of immersion, like I've said before they needed to crank the graphics to 11, that was what prevented RFOM from becoming a universal hit. The leviathan demo at E3 was more going through one set path but with the environment diluted too much because of the visual scale, but the actual playground in that demo didn't offer that freedom. I would like to be able to fight ON the leviathan instead of running away from it, trying to figure a way to get ON the leviathan, fighting chimeras in some kind of control tower and a series of tunnels to find out how to take down the beast from the inside. It's like a scarab fight in HALO3, THAT is scale, right now the leviathan fight is just avoiding the huge fist of death, it's akin to fighting the colossus of rhodes in God of War 2 at the beginning versus fighting a colossus in Shadow of Colossus, in SOTC the fight is just ten times more epic and much more dynamic.
Yeah well, I don't use R1 as the yardstick because it has the "launch game" schedule and immature toolset problems.
If we just look at R2... do you think it's purely art style and incomplete level issues ? I mean there can be tons of sh*t going on in a large MP game. They have to juggle with the resources somehow.
If it's an art issue or just a transient work-in-progress problem, then I am officially stoked. The skeptics inside me is not ready to accept that yet (Show me, Insomniac).
I am REALLY eager to see final game because I want to see if our feedback made it into the final game... and then the real ceiling for SP.
If we just look at R2... do you think it's purely art style and incomplete level issues ? I mean there can be tons of sh*t going on in a large MP game. They have to juggle with the resources somehow.
If it's an art issue or just a transient work-in-progress problem, then I am officially stoked. The skeptics inside me is not ready to accept that yet (Show me, Insomniac).
I am REALLY eager to see final game because I want to see if our feedback made it into the final game... and then the real ceiling for SP.
travisbickle
Member
Can someone tell me the 15 AAA 360 titles?
I'm guessing he has no first party titles as AAA for the PS3, because there's at least 5 third party that are AAA.
Resistance 2 looks real good, I'm always worried about going online and getting my arsed kicked but considering how much they're doing with it I'll think I'll try it next year.
I'm guessing he has no first party titles as AAA for the PS3, because there's at least 5 third party that are AAA.
Resistance 2 looks real good, I'm always worried about going online and getting my arsed kicked but considering how much they're doing with it I'll think I'll try it next year.
cjtiger300
Member
jett said:
Wow, what pissed in your cereal. MGS4 was so detailed it was almost impossible to see everything on the first play through. Its hard to expect that kind of detail in a lauch game like R1. MGS4 had 4 year production cycle. You can add a ton of shit in that amount of time!
patsu said:
I don't know, since everything shown so far they claim to be early so I'm kind of waiting for the real thing. I want to be wowed, I thought the convoy footage looks good but that's touched up pre-recorded stuff and I don't know how much of it was touched up. R2 needs good lighting and shadowing more than just plain scale (and scale needs to be playground scale, not just linear playable scale), I'm just hoping to see more but right now things are kind of slow.
archnemesis
Member
I'm guessing he used Metacritic rating >=90 as the criteria. For the 360 you get the following games.travisbickle said:
Grand Theft Auto IV
BioShock
Orange Box, The
Gears of War
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Halo 3
Rock Band 2
Braid
Guitar Hero II
Rock Band
Mass Effect
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter
Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2
Forza Motorsport 2
cjtiger300
Member
This thread has turned into a major bitch fest.
I really don't care. It is my most anticipated game of the year. Insomniac hasn't disappointed me one damn time, so I don't think they will this time.
Plus the Coop is like nothing out there right now and probably could be a stand alone game. This is where the sheer size of the Blu Ray comes in handy.
I really don't care. It is my most anticipated game of the year. Insomniac hasn't disappointed me one damn time, so I don't think they will this time.
Plus the Coop is like nothing out there right now and probably could be a stand alone game. This is where the sheer size of the Blu Ray comes in handy.
archnemesis
Member
Gears of War, Rock Band, and Guitar Hero II are all available on other platforms.RoboPlato said:
cjtiger300
Member
archnemesis said:
Going by that list, just on the multi platform stuff, the PS3 has 6 plus BioShock and Rock Band 2 when it comes out for the PS3.
cjtiger300
Member
Wollan said:
And that would be?????????? Your the man, lets hear it!
slicedking
Member
About time Ariexv is banned. If you guys only knew the tripe and misinformation he spreads on other sites, you wouldn't have bothered with him in the first place.
Anyway hoping the media event is early in the week (like tomorrow).
Anyway hoping the media event is early in the week (like tomorrow).
Kittonwy said:
For MP, I have only seen max 8 player games. I really can't imagine a 60 player turn out right now. That's 7-8 times more activities. The co-op enemies are abundant but can't really compare to so many human players equiped with grenades.
For SP, the trailers are all incomplete builds. So there's still hope for a better ambience (lighting and effects). Given the 60 player headroom (and now we only have one), my guess is we will see some pleasant surprises but the ground texture will still look pretty "clean" due to reuse.
I had the same idea about fighting on the Leviathan rather than away from it. I wonder how hard it is to do it for SP. I heard there are other large enemies (well, boarding the mothership doesn't really count).
Jeseus said:
But ,have you played R2 with all the polish and stuff ?
Until they show the single player with all the polish on ,we cant talk about graphics and stuff like that.
In fact, it doesnt matter if they use normal mapping or not, the only thing it matters is if its fun or not. (I think its gonna be real fun)
Sorry for my english.
Nizz
Member
One thing I'm wondering after finishing R1 again last night (on Hard) is how the two weapon limit will work out in R2? What I loved about R1 was the different weapons you had at your disposal for every imaginable situation. Like at the end of R1, it was great to have so many different weapons to choose from for the situation. In R2, your gonna have to be more tactical and put thought into what weapon you're carrying at any given point. I'm just worried about being stuck with the wrong or not most effective weapon for the situation. I'm wondering if the revolver in R2 will be counted as a second weapon? Or will it be the sidearm in addition to two main weapons. Like Carbine rifle/Bullseye gun?
fps fanatic said:
Many FPS are using this configuration. It makes the gameplay a little more dynamic ,since you dont have to scroll any menu or anything to get your weapon.
Im cool with it. Insomniac Games has Fersis approval :lol
frankthurk
Member
Jeseus said:
The video you posted looks like it has pretty obvious normal mapping on the arms and legs. Unless you're assuming every wrinkle is mesh.
BobTheFork
Member
Why the fuck do I have to wade through lists of 360 games in a RESISTANCE thread to find RESISTANCE info??.
I guess if people had their pissing contests over PM no one else would be able to see you think huh?
I guess if people had their pissing contests over PM no one else would be able to see you think huh?
cjtiger300
Member
the 360 trolls need to
Metalmurphy
Member
I doubt that's the reason people love Gears... IMO most UE3.0 over do it, including Gears.Jeseus said:
cjtiger300
Member
Metalmurphy said:
agreed
Private Hoffman
Banned
I think all of us are going to be in for a big surprise once the final game ships.
Remember how amazed all of us were of the Iceland screens?
Yeah, that was over 8 months ago....
Insomniac has been holding back on us, only showing the same sections/levels over and over again rather than new stuff. Hell, they still haven't even shown us much of the single player outside of Chicago.
I think we should really reserve judgment until the final game drops. I'm confident it will really take us by surprise. This is insomniac's third game on the PS3, and they've been iterating on an initial design that was established way before production even hit. This game will be highly polished, and one of the most value packed games I'll ever likely buy.
It's just odd that we haven't heard much more info...hopefully they kick it into gear pretty soon. Remember last year how much Ratchet footage we had?
Remember how amazed all of us were of the Iceland screens?
Yeah, that was over 8 months ago....
Insomniac has been holding back on us, only showing the same sections/levels over and over again rather than new stuff. Hell, they still haven't even shown us much of the single player outside of Chicago.
I think we should really reserve judgment until the final game drops. I'm confident it will really take us by surprise. This is insomniac's third game on the PS3, and they've been iterating on an initial design that was established way before production even hit. This game will be highly polished, and one of the most value packed games I'll ever likely buy.
It's just odd that we haven't heard much more info...hopefully they kick it into gear pretty soon. Remember last year how much Ratchet footage we had?