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Resistance: Fall of Man - The Official Thread
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AgentOtaku
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oh yeah...for anyone that is interested:
PSN: AgentOtaku
...but I can't play clan games...my 4 year old is up and about around those times, so its not in the cards
PSN: AgentOtaku
...but I can't play clan games...my 4 year old is up and about around those times, so its not in the cards
Kodiak said:
one of us! one of us!!! one of us!!!!!!!
welcome to you
On another note, I played Resistance coop for the first time this weekend and Halo 2 for the first time in both coop and local MP.
SP progress update:
I have beaten the game on Easy and Medium and am currently half-way through my playthrough on Hard difficulty. So much more fun than the lower difficulties were but I'm starting to notice a lot of little presentation things that they can work on for Resistance 2, which I find myself looking forward to more and more.
Some of these complaints are more of a flashback to 6 months ago when I first got the game but I noticed these again when I was playing through the game with a friend who was new to the game and I found myself apologizing for the slow ramp up of the game and some of the other things I'm gonna mention. My friend is also a super HARDCORE Halo nut.
Here are a couple things: mission variety (go here, kill that, how about something else), pulling switches, the game could use more checkpoints after major firefights (getting really frustrating on Hard, probably not gonna play through on Superhuman because of it), and harder endings to stages (I want to feel like I know the end of a stage is coming, it seems kind of random).
Coop
Played Resistance in co-op for the first time this weekend, and I gotta admit, it was pretty fun but the interface also seemed REALLY clunky compared to the Halo 2 coop interface (which I also played for the first time this weekend). I had a lot of fun but there were also a couple collision detection bugs in coop too where my partner got stuck on a couple things. The pointer is also not very helpful at all when you're trying to lead someone around and it's not opaque at all, so it tends to be distracting so you can't leave it on all the time.
Halo 2 MP comparison:
Halo 2 local MP was pretty meh compared to Resistance. Interface is super clunky and it's hard to see the important facts you need to know like health, ammo and other important things. Also, SLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW and the floaty jumping was pissing me off. In Resistance, I jump to avoid getting sniped and giving my opponent an easy headshot. In Halo 2, I don't jump so I can avoid getting sniped and giving my opponent an easy headshot. The weapon balance in Halo 2 is also #*^$@* terrible. Halo 2 MP is pretty inferior on all accounts, based on my experience.
This is all out of the box stuff since I don't have access to LIVE to play online or download any balance patches, but what is there is pretty disappointing.
The only advantage Halo 2 has are the many MP game modes.
Rumble
Having rumble back was also jarringly annoying. I used to like it or not mind it, at least. The only other application in a PS2 game that I can remember caring about it one way or the other was in SotC where the horse footsteps would vibrate the controller and that was also somewhat annoying.
The Halo 2 music is awesome so far. Resistance could use more electric guitar in the soundtrack, but I'm just a guitar nut like that.
Aeon712
Member
Funny thing happened to me and my friend when we were playing, he got stuck on the level that has you climbing up huge tubes and was all dude I'm stuck. So I was like ok I'll just kill you. He was like ok...wait noooo(boom hedgehog):lol at his body falling. And really was your friend that new to gaming that he had to be led by you and the arrow? We got more annoyed that we were accidently turning it on.
Aeon712
Member
OK So my PSN just decided to die and isn't reconnecting me :-(, thought I'd take this time to complain at the amount of people spawning behind me. How am I supposed to mount any kind of kill spree in ffa when I always have someone that's invincible and that can see me even before they spawn poping up behind me?
Aeon712 said:
It was my friend's girlfriend that I had to lead around a lot (she also loves teh Halo 2 but my friend also had a little trouble. I'm not sure why. *shrugs*
Sorta OT: If you have a 1up account and care enough, support my thread asking for more 1UP coverage of Resistance, including the maps.
http://boards.1up.com/zd/board/message?board.id=games&message.id=147534&jump=true
Man. Oh. Man. My keyboard no longer works completely. I can hit R2 to type messages, but when I hit enter I can't send them! It doesn't have anything to do with 1.8, as it has worked once.
*bangs head against desk*
Just when the new maps were coming out...
That's it...I'm gonna find the SOCOM headset SOMEHOW. I even went to the Sony Store and they had no clue...those clowns.
*bangs head against desk*
Just when the new maps were coming out...
That's it...I'm gonna find the SOCOM headset SOMEHOW. I even went to the Sony Store and they had no clue...those clowns.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
JB198 said:
Why?
Doom_Bringer
Banned
JB1981 said:
i don't know what that means but yes n00bs can be annoying.
Fight for Freeform said:Man. Oh. Man. My keyboard no longer works completely. I can hit R2 to type messages, but when I hit enter I can't send them! It doesn't have anything to do with 1.8, as it has worked once.
*bangs head against desk*
Just when the new maps were coming out...
That's it...I'm gonna find the SOCOM headset SOMEHOW. I even went to the Sony Store and they had no clue...those clowns.
Unplug keyboard, plug keyboard.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
JB1981 said:
Is it like Half Life 2 death match? I still don't know how Resistance online works
I stopped playing that game soon after it came out...
Doom_Bringer
Banned
JB1981 said:Never played Half Life 2 so I can't answer that.
I'm looking forward to digging into Orange Box when it comes out though.
HL2 deathmatch isn't included in the box though. I am sure Resistance Online is better than HL2 deathmatch since a lot of people are playing it but I don't like twitchy online shooters at all. I like somewhat slower paced FPS's like Halo and Battlefield
Kittonwy said:
Thanks!
Maybe I'll play tomorrow night then. I'll just be the guy going on all-out offense, on a different radio freq, to distract the other team.
JB1981: Maybe you need to play more objective games than DM (I prefer obj games over TDM in Res). BTW, do you have the Warhawk beta? Maybe that's more your cup of tea and when you play Res you realize that it's not for you.
JB1981 said:I guess I'm slowly beginning to prefer slower FPS's as well.
I think Halo 3 beta is vastly superior to Resistance. Don't kill me, guys.
Never played it. I don't think the clan is full of fanboys (unless you guys have secret meetings), but I know that we have a really good time. You might be interested to read my first impressions of Halo 2 a few posts up. I think I had some pretty fair criticisms but I also had some praise for it too. Still working on playing through it.
I'd like to echo something Kittonwy said last night. I have spent more time playing this game than I have playing every other FPS ever made. Outside of RPGs, this would pretty much apply to all the games I've played. FWIW, there's quite a few people in the clan that have said something similar but the game has seemed to hit a sweet spot for a lot of people in a similar way to what Halo did on the original Xbox.
tanod said:
I've played Resistance heavily and I can tell you you're most likely enjoying it so much for the fact that you're playing it with people you know and don't take it too seriously. That's perfectly good and all, but a lot of people play these games competitively. There is a lot wrong with Resistance MP, but it does a lot right too. Resistance 2 really should support mouse & keyboard like the next Unreal is supposed to. Fine tune the aiming, adjust some of the guns and add some new game concepts and you've got a winner.
When you are in a fast paced game, circle strafing is the way to go. Perhaps that is why you enjoy Halo more, it's far slower. Halo and Warhawk (never played Warhawk, but this is what I gather from vids) have battles on a larger scale. With Vehicles and turrets and all that jazz, the combat is very different.
Res is more like UT, it's a fast paced game with unique weapons and circle strafing is the first thing you learn to avoid death. You often find yourself in a position where you are dueling with another guy, and while that's the case in Halo 2 sometimes, there isn't much to the duel, in fact I find it to be simplistic (as compared to Halo and Halo 3) because of the emphasis on dual wielding.
BTW, tanod, play Halo rather than Halo 2, it's better in most ways.
I don't think a game like this needs KB and Mouse support, it plays EXCELLENT on the controller as far as movement and aiming goes, IMO. I think most agree with that sentiment. The ratio of vertical to horizontal sensitivity is just right, and the auto aim is near perfect as well (I think it sticks too much when it comes to vertical aiming...but it's not a big issue, though I think other will also agree with this as well). The acceleration used is just right...I don't think people understand how much of a challenge it is to get these right, especially for a fast paced game like Resistance.
I'm one of those who has played a lot of online FPS games, and while I think Res is great there are a lot of issues with it that I don't think you have noticed because it's probably one of a handful you've played. I don't want to go into the negatives...but if Insomniac is interested from my perspective, I'd be happy to post it in a specific and quantitative manner. Y'know, if work for Res 2 is gearing up...
The most apparent positive quality of the game is the great online performance coupled with the number of players and the size of the levels. The second most apparent positive quality is the unique multiplayer objectives. I like these so much that I'm willing to overlook the flaws.
If it weren't for the recently added Assault and seemingly increased frequency of Breach, I'd probably would have jumped over to Halo 3, UT 2007, and Warhawk and NEVER look back. And I'm sure a lot of FPS players would have as well. But as long as there's Assault and Breach and as long as I get to play them quite frequently, I'll be still playing Res even when these other games are out. This last point is my own personal opinion and the opinion of others on this point could be completely different. I play Res for these modes...not for it's TDM. I don't make a fuss about it when we play online because others enjoy TDM and I don't want to dictate what we should and shouldn't play, plus TDM rounds don't last a super long time and it forces me to brush up my one on one killing skills. Note: My beefs with TDM are more to do with how it's implemented, I don't have a problem with the concept of TDM (I play it in so many other games).
Res is more like UT, it's a fast paced game with unique weapons and circle strafing is the first thing you learn to avoid death. You often find yourself in a position where you are dueling with another guy, and while that's the case in Halo 2 sometimes, there isn't much to the duel, in fact I find it to be simplistic (as compared to Halo and Halo 3) because of the emphasis on dual wielding.
BTW, tanod, play Halo rather than Halo 2, it's better in most ways.
I don't think a game like this needs KB and Mouse support, it plays EXCELLENT on the controller as far as movement and aiming goes, IMO. I think most agree with that sentiment. The ratio of vertical to horizontal sensitivity is just right, and the auto aim is near perfect as well (I think it sticks too much when it comes to vertical aiming...but it's not a big issue, though I think other will also agree with this as well). The acceleration used is just right...I don't think people understand how much of a challenge it is to get these right, especially for a fast paced game like Resistance.
tanod said:
I'm one of those who has played a lot of online FPS games, and while I think Res is great there are a lot of issues with it that I don't think you have noticed because it's probably one of a handful you've played. I don't want to go into the negatives...but if Insomniac is interested from my perspective, I'd be happy to post it in a specific and quantitative manner. Y'know, if work for Res 2 is gearing up...
The most apparent positive quality of the game is the great online performance coupled with the number of players and the size of the levels. The second most apparent positive quality is the unique multiplayer objectives. I like these so much that I'm willing to overlook the flaws.
If it weren't for the recently added Assault and seemingly increased frequency of Breach, I'd probably would have jumped over to Halo 3, UT 2007, and Warhawk and NEVER look back. And I'm sure a lot of FPS players would have as well. But as long as there's Assault and Breach and as long as I get to play them quite frequently, I'll be still playing Res even when these other games are out. This last point is my own personal opinion and the opinion of others on this point could be completely different. I play Res for these modes...not for it's TDM. I don't make a fuss about it when we play online because others enjoy TDM and I don't want to dictate what we should and shouldn't play, plus TDM rounds don't last a super long time and it forces me to brush up my one on one killing skills. Note: My beefs with TDM are more to do with how it's implemented, I don't have a problem with the concept of TDM (I play it in so many other games).
Nrxic: I would be interested to hear your beefs with TDM.
Also, I didn't say that Resistance is the best game I've ever played (it IS great) and I did talk about its problems (in SP). I didn't talk about problems in MP. I was just comparing my experience in Resistance to my limited play time with Halo 2. I have just been spending a lot of time playing it recently, but have also been playing a lot of God of War 2 and Final Fantasy XII so it's not like it's the only thing I'm playing right now.
I don't equate time spent with a game, to the amount I like a game. I spent over 90-100 hours mastering FF8 and had a good time with it when it first came out. However, I don't like it very much now, viewed in the context of other Final Fantasy's and other games.
For FPS games, I have played and enjoyed: Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Heretic, Quake 1 (modem MP FTW), Quake 3: Arena, Half-Life 1, Golden Eye, Time Splitters 1 & 2, and Halo. So Resistance isn't the first I've played, it's just the one that I've spent the most time with. The only other that comes close is Quake 3 which I played while I was in school.
More Halo talk:
I also have played quite a bit of Halo 1 on the original Xbox and PC. I definitely enjoyed most of it. 4p MP on Xbox was a lot of fun. MP on PC wasn't fun as much as I would get sniped all the time by the more experienced players. This was back in the day before match-making. AI, in these games, is pretty damn impressive.
It should be noted that I also like the world they created around Halo and I'm looking forward to finishing the Halo 2 SP campaign, since I've borrowed my friend's XBOX for this next month or so.
Also, I didn't say that Resistance is the best game I've ever played (it IS great) and I did talk about its problems (in SP). I didn't talk about problems in MP. I was just comparing my experience in Resistance to my limited play time with Halo 2. I have just been spending a lot of time playing it recently, but have also been playing a lot of God of War 2 and Final Fantasy XII so it's not like it's the only thing I'm playing right now.
I don't equate time spent with a game, to the amount I like a game. I spent over 90-100 hours mastering FF8 and had a good time with it when it first came out. However, I don't like it very much now, viewed in the context of other Final Fantasy's and other games.
For FPS games, I have played and enjoyed: Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Heretic, Quake 1 (modem MP FTW), Quake 3: Arena, Half-Life 1, Golden Eye, Time Splitters 1 & 2, and Halo. So Resistance isn't the first I've played, it's just the one that I've spent the most time with. The only other that comes close is Quake 3 which I played while I was in school.
More Halo talk:
I also have played quite a bit of Halo 1 on the original Xbox and PC. I definitely enjoyed most of it. 4p MP on Xbox was a lot of fun. MP on PC wasn't fun as much as I would get sniped all the time by the more experienced players. This was back in the day before match-making. AI, in these games, is pretty damn impressive.
It should be noted that I also like the world they created around Halo and I'm looking forward to finishing the Halo 2 SP campaign, since I've borrowed my friend's XBOX for this next month or so.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
JB1981 said:I guess I'm slowly beginning to prefer slower FPS's as well.
I think Halo 3 beta is vastly superior to Resistance. Don't kill me, guys.
hehe this happened to me when I played the Wake Island Battlefield 1942 demo, I simply couldn't go back to twitchy shooters like UT after that. This is for online games only though, doesn't effect the quality or enjoyment of single player.
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3) PM kaching on NEOGAF to get added to the clan roster.
4) WAIT a couple days for him to get back to you.
5) In the meantime if you want to play with the clan, send one of the gaffers a buddy invite (please tell him you are from gaf) so he can get you invited to the party.
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SOCOM and USB headsets compatible with PS2 work fine.
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It does not, despite its name, resemble a true flying wedge - although generally whoever is at the front of the pack will get gunned down while those behind break through and destroy the opposition. So maybe it's not completely inaccurate.
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Gah, I'd love to join weekdays. Must quit job or somethin.
Anyways, just played a few quick FFA:
"Longest Killing Spree 23"
Anyways, just played a few quick FFA:
"Longest Killing Spree 23"
AgentOtaku
Member
ChryZ said:Gah, I'd love to join weekdays. Must quit job or somethin.
Anyways, just played a few quick FFA:
"Longest Killing Spree 23"
wow!
way to go
Aeon712
Member
Oh crap Chryz that's awesome, and here I was complaining that it's hard on FFA and you had to ruin thatChryZ said:Gah, I'd love to join weekdays. Must quit job or somethin.
Anyways, just played a few quick FFA:
"Longest Killing Spree 23"
. What map was it and how many people? I need details so I can mirror it
still at lowly 12
Gosh now I have the urge to play but I need to get and watch One Piece.
Thanks! I still can't believe it. I'm still shaky from the adrenaline rush.AgentOtaku said:wow!
way to go
It was FFA, Grimsby (32P), Chimera. All kills were bullseye and carbine ... no laark, no shotgun, no grenades. It all happened in a flash, Lots of bus yard and surroundings. Mid game I ran out of bullseye ammo, followed by a mild panic attack, but I was able to finish the game with a carbine. I moved a lot to avoid any revenge related deaths (that stopped my previous spree at 15).
Doom_Bringer said:
This game doesn't feel like HL2: Death match, to me.
Death Match felt completely disorganized and random, to me. Which can be fun sometimes....
Resistance didn't feel this way. Particularly if you play teams with the right people.
I like slower and faster FPS games about the same overall.
Sometimes, I prefer one and sometimes I prefer another.
I just hate the switch from the faster paced ones to the slower paced ones.
Playing a game like UT and then playing a game like Halo throws me off and frustrates me and takes me quite a while to get used to.
The switch the other way... doesn't bug me.
tanod: I'll go into details later on how I feel TDM has fell short in some areas. To some, they are gamebreakers, to myself it just a turnoff, and to others they don't mind them. But I'll list them and I think most people would agree to some of the points.
I'm gonna hop online here within the half hour...I won't have a mic though.
Core: KB and Mouse support gives an aiming advantage, and controller support gives an advantage in movement. Unfortunately in fast paced games movement is quite erratic and quick so the movement advantage is nullified. So in the end KB and M guys will have an advantage over controller guys. Though I was under the impression that servers could be set up so that they would only allow one or the other (or both) in their settings.
Sung to the chorus of Rick Astley's Forever Together A song about the wedge
Whenever Together
We tear them apart
Whenever Together
It's true!
And don't you know I
Would give up my own LAARK
To be together forever with you!
I'm gonna hop online here within the half hour...I won't have a mic though.
Core: KB and Mouse support gives an aiming advantage, and controller support gives an advantage in movement. Unfortunately in fast paced games movement is quite erratic and quick so the movement advantage is nullified. So in the end KB and M guys will have an advantage over controller guys. Though I was under the impression that servers could be set up so that they would only allow one or the other (or both) in their settings.
Sung to the chorus of Rick Astley's Forever Together A song about the wedge
Whenever Together
We tear them apart
Whenever Together
It's true!
And don't you know I
Would give up my own LAARK
To be together forever with you!
(>~_~)>
We're no strangers to gamebattle
You know teh rulez and so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get it from any other gaf
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gafta make you understand
Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
Your taco's been aching but you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the gamebattle and we're gonna play it
We're no strangers to gamebattle
You know teh rulez and so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get it from any other gaf
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gafta make you understand
Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
Your taco's been aching but you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the gamebattle and we're gonna play it
JB1981 said:
I beginning to feel like that tonight. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. It takes me awhile to kill them and I aim for their heads yet it takes like 3 secs for the enemy to kill me with full health.
When me and an enemy both shoot (shotgun or tag) at the same time, 99% of the time, the bad guy wins.
I blame my internet, I seem to be the last to spawn when matches start ;/
Good luck man. Hope you find fun in other games.