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Resistance: Fall of Man - The Official Thread

jstevenson

Sailor Stevenson
JB1981 said:
Regarding sound quality over mics

jstevenson: are you guys aware of the amount of feedback and background noise we get when playing Resistance? In very large groups the amount of noise is pretty bad. There's a lot of echoing (likely user error). Is this something you guys or Sony is aware of or working on perhaps? It would go a long way toward making communication easier.

Play with the sensitivity. We're aware of some of the mic stuff (like cutting out) so it's on our radar.

JS
 
A lot of people use really nice bluetooth headsets with the PS3 and if the sensitivity is set anywhere near max you can hear EVERYTHING. I can sit there saying nothing and holding my breath and my mic icon will still constantly flash if I have the volume set to 5 on the PS3.
 

JB1981

Member
My Arms Your Hearse said:
A lot of people use really nice bluetooth headsets with the PS3 and if the sensitivity is set anywhere near max you can hear EVERYTHING. I can sit there saying nothing and holding my breath and my mic icon will still constantly flash if I have the volume set to 5 on the PS3.

I have mine set to 3. Anything lower than that results in a very faint sounding voice.
 
JB1981 said:
Well, I hate to make the Xbox Live comparison but I guess I have to. Mic quality on Xbox Live is vastly superior to what we have now on the PS3. I rarely get any kind of feedback (unless someone is using a wireless which introduces a buzzing, which is a design flaw) and peoples' voices are just a lot clearer, and free of background noise. I almost never hear what's going on in other peoples houses. I never hear crying babies. Sometimes I'll hear someone BLASTING their music (can't fault the headset for that). I talked with LJ through voice chat in the XMB the other night and things were much clearer, but in-game voice chat quality really needs to be addressed.

I'm trying to tell you that that's probably a matter of changing the settings on their headsets. It's not a quality of the service.

If somebody's broadcasting every fart or passing train, tell them to adjust it.
 

garrickk

Member
The bluetooth microphones we're all using on the PS3 have two slight disadvantages.

First, they are very low power devices for obvious reasons. They were designed to work with a cellphone that it right next to them and they have TINY batteries.

Second, they were designed to work in all kinds of inclement conditions while being mobile. They certainly have more levels of sound processing to reduce wind noise and to eliminate some other background noise issues. It's much more than just band gap filtered at the human voice frequency.

Microphones designed specifically for a home console don't have these rigid requirements outside of simple voice frequency passing and maybe a very weak filter to reduce some background noise and breathing. It's just a bit easier.

I honestly don't know how much a difference this makes, but it must make some. People are quick to knock bluetooth, but the primary problem with bluetooth that I've seen is underpowered, ultraportable devices that just don't have enough gain to their signal. Still, overall I'm happy with my Logitech Mobile Traveller headset on my PS3 and cellphone.
 
garrickk said:
The bluetooth microphones we're all using on the PS3 have two slight disadvantages.

First, they are very low power devices for obvious reasons. They were designed to work with a cellphone that it right next to them and they have TINY batteries.

Second, they were designed to work in all kinds of inclement conditions while being mobile. They certainly have more levels of sound processing to reduce wind noise and to eliminate some other background noise issues. It's much more than just band gap filtered at the human voice frequency.

Microphones designed specifically for a home console don't have these rigid requirements outside of simple voice frequency passing and maybe a very weak filter to reduce some background noise and breathing. It's just a bit easier.

I honestly don't know how much a difference this makes, but it must make some. People are quick to knock bluetooth, but the primary problem with bluetooth that I've seen is underpowered, ultraportable devices that just don't have enough gain to their signal. Still, overall I'm happy with my Logitech Mobile Traveller headset on my PS3 and cellphone.

I got tired of re-pairing my headset between using it with my phone and the PS3. I grabbed an old USB set and it works much better.
 

Aeon712

Member
Yes USB seems to be the way to go, only problem I've had is that it's stopped letting others hear me after awhile. Simple unplug and reconnect fixes that though.
 

Christopher

Member
garrickk said:
The bluetooth microphones we're all using on the PS3 have two slight disadvantages.

First, they are very low power devices for obvious reasons. They were designed to work with a cellphone that it right next to them and they have TINY batteries.

Second, they were designed to work in all kinds of inclement conditions while being mobile. They certainly have more levels of sound processing to reduce wind noise and to eliminate some other background noise issues. It's much more than just band gap filtered at the human voice frequency.

Microphones designed specifically for a home console don't have these rigid requirements outside of simple voice frequency passing and maybe a very weak filter to reduce some background noise and breathing. It's just a bit easier.

I honestly don't know how much a difference this makes, but it must make some. People are quick to knock bluetooth, but the primary problem with bluetooth that I've seen is underpowered, ultraportable devices that just don't have enough gain to their signal. Still, overall I'm happy with my Logitech Mobile Traveller headset on my PS3 and cellphone.

Speak for yourself dude, my HS820 ****ing rocks in quality perfect with my v710 <3.

Also dudes, do I have to always register my headset when I alternate between the PS3 and my cell phone? It seems that when I link one, the one link is invalid until I sync up again. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong?
 

garrickk

Member
Christopher said:
Speak for yourself dude, my HS820 ****ing rocks in quality perfect with my v710 <3.

Also dudes, do I have to always register my headset when I alternate between the PS3 and my cell phone? It seems that when I link one, the one link is invalid until I sync up again. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong?
I said I was happy with my Logitech. I simply listed technical reasons why a mobile bluetooth headset doesn't make for an IDEAL console headset. It doesn't mean you can't make a good, quality headset that sounds good. If I was a designer building a headset for the PS3 and the PS3 only, I would remove some of the filtering on a mobile device, increase the battery size, and increase the gain on the amplifier to the antenna. I would also try to make it utilize some of the controller bluetooth API so you can check the battery level on the screen along with (and just like) the controller. I would also have it charge from a standard USB Type-B mini cable.

And yes, I too have to re-register my device over and over again between my cellphone.

If you watch Ben's Bargains, occasionally bluetooth headsets pop on there for less and $10. I might get a second.
 

Christopher

Member
garrickk said:
I said I was happy with my Logitech. I simply listed technical reasons why a mobile bluetooth headset doesn't make for an IDEAL console headset. It doesn't mean you can't make a good, quality headset that sounds good. If I was a designer building a headset for the PS3 and the PS3 only, I would remove some of the filtering on a mobile device, increase the battery size, and increase the gain on the amplifier to the antenna. I would also try to make it utilize some of the controller bluetooth API so you can check the battery level on the screen along with (and just like) the controller. I would also have it charge from a standard USB Type-B mini cable.

And yes, I too have to re-register my device over and over again between my cellphone.

If you watch Ben's Bargains, occasionally bluetooth headsets pop on there for less and $10. I might get a second.

oh ok good post dude, I haven't actually tested my PS3 headset out on well....the PS3. So perhaps you could be right, I'm speaking about my phone. I'll be testing it out sunday with you dudes.

*totally un-related but not all together, how do you make the PS3 stop autostarting your games :(.
 

Brofist

Member
Christopher said:
oh ok good post dude, I haven't actually tested my PS3 headset out on well....the PS3. So perhaps you could be right, I'm speaking about my phone. I'll be testing it out sunday with you dudes.

*totally un-related but not all together, how do you make the PS3 stop autostarting your games :(.

having multiple profiles does by default, since it starts the PS3 up at the profile selection screen
 

jjasper

Member
Ok I just beat it. Man the
blowing up the tower with all the angels flying around trying to kill you along with the other Chimera was ****ing awesome
the game really is one of the best console FPSs in a while. I am glad that
Hale didn't kill himself when the black ops found him, I was worried that in the sequel you would be someone else now I can hold out hope that they continue the story as Hale. Also it is pretty cool that you see those Black Ops people all around dead and just assume they are fight the war not coming after you. It is also pretty cool that the Chimera are forced out of the UK meaning that there will be new locations in the sequel and that it will likely be the humans on the offensive

Without a doubt my favorite part had to be the
battle to hold off the 2 stalkers and 1 widowmaker while they are blowing the bridge

Also did anyone else
think holy shit look at all those Angel cocoons they are all going to ****ing hatch and attack me when you are climbing the tower
 

Aeon712

Member
Christopher said:
*totally un-related but not all together, how do you make the PS3 stop autostarting your games :(.
Only way I've been able to manage doing it is by holding the PS button at startup.
 

Remy

Member
Christopher said:
Also dudes, do I have to always register my headset when I alternate between the PS3 and my cell phone? It seems that when I link one, the one link is invalid until I sync up again. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong?

Most Bluetooth headsets only let you pair with a single device. There are some that will let you sync to two devices, like the one I've been using.

Common limitation on most headsets, I guess.
 

Treo360

Member
jjasper said:
Also did anyone else
think holy shit look at all those Angel cocoons they are all going to ****ing hatch and attack me when you are climbing the tower


Yea I was expecting something to happen too, the end on normal was a little too easy for me though, due to the generous amounts of fareye rounds.
 

The Jer

Member
jjasper said:
Ok I just beat it. Man the
blowing up the tower with all the angels flying around trying to kill you along with the other Chimera was ****ing awesome
the game really is one of the best console FPSs in a while. I am glad that
Hale didn't kill himself when the black ops found him, I was worried that in the sequel you would be someone else now I can hold out hope that they continue the story as Hale. Also it is pretty cool that you see those Black Ops people all around dead and just assume they are fight the war not coming after you. It is also pretty cool that the Chimera are forced out of the UK meaning that there will be new locations in the sequel and that it will likely be the humans on the offensive

Without a doubt my favorite part had to be the
battle to hold off the 2 stalkers and 1 widowmaker while they are blowing the bridge

Also did anyone else
think holy shit look at all those Angel cocoons they are all going to ****ing hatch and attack me when you are climbing the tower

Ya. When I finished the game on normal,
I went around and killed every angel (since one of the intel reports stated that angels should be the top priority regardless of other enemies) and killed the other chimera while waiting for the next angel. It was a fun firefight, but when it was over I was able to casually walk around and shoot all the bars on the reactor, rather than trying to destroy the bars during a major firefight. It seemed as if it was meant to be done without killing everyone and probably would have been a bit more dramatic.
 

theBishop

Banned
damn i just beat the game for the first time!

Now that is how you do a final battle!

i was down to one bar of health as the last rod was opening. There was an Angel directly in front of me, but i just ignored it as i blasted away at the rod. Finally, the rod burst and the game was over. Intense.

The ending cutscene was satisfying, but it seems like the story could go in a lot of different directions, which is good and bad. Theres definitely some emotional ties between Parker and Hale that never got a chance to grow.

Ted Price has said a few times that Nathan Hale is just one person in a greater story, and i'm not sure how I feel about that. While he doesn't have the immediate recognition of Master Chief or Kratos, Insomniac do a great job giving him a personality without him saying much. His facial expressions really make an impact especially when he
sees the humans locked up in the 2nd level
or when he
blows the first Angel to smithereens
or as he's
deciding whether to pull the pin
. I would really like to see more of the character, but i suspect he won't be the central role going forward.

To Insomniac: great job guys, looking forward to the next one for sure. :)
 

jjasper

Member
Ok I have 2 questions
1) Is the title Resistance refering to
Hale specifically as being resistant to the virus
or is talking about the fight? Or both?

2) Did
Cartwright die? I know they say they found his daughter at the end but they never mention him.

Also I started replaying the game last night and I like the Reaper. I was worried about it cause I never really understood how it controlled but I must say it is pretty freakin cool to be able to target 2 different things at once. I wish it was in the multiplayer match (specifically breach and meltdown) as it could add a lot if you could try to take out a reactor and defend yourself at the same time and take out 2 people at once when defending.

theBishop said:
The ending cutscene was satisfying, but it seems like the story could go in a lot of different directions, which is good and bad. Theres definitely some emotional ties between Parker and Hale that never got a chance to grow.

Yeah I really think though they should move the game into Europe
now that the Chimera have been wiped out in the UK putting the humans on the attack instead of defensive
. Going into places like Paris and Berlin could be cool. But at the same time
they could go in the direction that the Chimera were digging or something so important in the UK that now they will send in everything to get it
 

kaching

"GAF's biggest wanker"
jjasper, full title of the game is Resistance: Fall of Man, so I assume it's primarily about the war for survival against the Chimera.

As for question 2, I believe he did.
 

Ragnarok10

Junior Member
Christopher said:
*totally un-related but not all together, how do you make the PS3 stop autostarting your games :(.

An easy fix is to set your System User account to NOT auto-login. This will force the PS3 to boot to the XMB.
 

TTP

Have a fun! Enjoy!
jjasper said:
Ok I have 2 questions
1) Is the title Resistance refering to
Hale specifically as being resistant to the virus
or is talking about the fight? Or both?

Cool thing about the title is that it can mean both :)


2) Did
Cartwright die? I know they say they found his daughter at the end but they never mention him.

Who knows for sure. Clearly a door left open for Insomniac storytellers.


Yeah I really think though they should move the game into Europe
now that the Chimera have been wiped out in the UK putting the humans on the attack instead of defensive
. Going into places like Paris and Berlin could be cool. But at the same time
they could go in the direction that the Chimera were digging or something so important in the UK that now they will send in everything to get it

I sure hope next installment will take place around different nations. Probably leading to eastern Russia.
 

theBishop

Banned
jjasper said:
Ok I have 2 questions
1) Is the title Resistance refering to
Hale specifically as being resistant to the virus
or is talking about the fight? Or both?

2) Did
Cartwright die? I know they say they found his daughter at the end but they never mention him.

Also I started replaying the game last night and I like the Reaper. I was worried about it cause I never really understood how it controlled but I must say it is pretty freakin cool to be able to target 2 different things at once. I wish it was in the multiplayer match (specifically breach and meltdown) as it could add a lot if you could try to take out a reactor and defend yourself at the same time and take out 2 people at once when defending.



Yeah I really think though they should move the game into Europe
now that the Chimera have been wiped out in the UK putting the humans on the attack instead of defensive
. Going into places like Paris and Berlin could be cool. But at the same time
they could go in the direction that the Chimera were digging or something so important in the UK that now they will send in everything to get it

It refers to both. Ted Price said in the most recent PSM podcast that Resistance works as a "double entendre" in the way you mentioned.

I think
Cartwright did die
but it could definitely go either way.
 

Treo360

Member
TTP said:
Cool thing about the title is that it can mean both :)




Who knows for sure. Clearly a door left open for Insomniac storytellers.




I sure hope next installment will take place around different nations. Probably leading to eastern Russia.



Prob Tunguska when it's all said and done
 

f@luS

More than a member.
jstevenson said:
Play with the sensitivity. We're aware of some of the mic stuff (like cutting out) so it's on our radar.

JS

Sorry if i missed something but what about the international online play?
Ive us system , us game but living in Eu...now everythings fine but will i ever be able to play with some of my friends there (theyre gonna have PAL system)
 

jjasper

Member
I have another question about Cartwright. In the morse code on the last page it says:


Somerset
"Friendly escort limited. Grayskin recapture is go."
"Sequoia type 6 tower confirmed. Grayskin shows no reaction to active tharp field."
wasn't Cartwright with Hale when
he encounters the tower at Cheddar Gourge? and therefore shouldn't he have had a reaction to the tharp field assuming there is a history of humans being effected by it? Is it possible that Cartwright has a resistance similar to Hale's he just doesn't know it cause he hasn't been actively infected yet?
 
jjasper said:
I have another question about Cartwright. In the morse code on the last page it says:



wasn't Cartwright with Hale when
he encounters the tower at Cheddar Gourge? and therefore shouldn't he have had a reaction to the tharp field assuming there is a history of humans being effected by it? Is it possible that Cartwright has a resistance similar to Hale's he just doesn't know it cause he hasn't been actively infected yet?

I thought the Tharp field was what controlled the Chimera. Being uninfected, Cartright would have no problem with it. No?
 

jjasper

Member
Ignatz Mouse said:
I thought the Tharp field was what controlled the Chimera. Being uninfected, Cartright would have no problem with it. No?

Oh I don't know I just assumed it was some form of defense field that hurt humans to protect the towers.
now that I think about it that theory doesn't makes sense because of the humans in the tower at the ending battle
 

The Jer

Member
Ignatz Mouse said:
I thought the Tharp field was what controlled the Chimera. Being uninfected, Cartright would have no problem with it. No?

My thoughts, exactly. I thought the
tharp field was something that controlled the chimera (perhaps angels are in the tower)
. I thought that was why Hale sort of
cringed
during that one cutseen, when Cartwright
asked if Hale was all right
.

And the reapers are some of the coolest weapons, they certainly get massive style points.
 

Kittonwy

Banned
The Jer said:
My thoughts, exactly. I thought the
tharp field was something that controlled the chimera (perhaps angels are in the tower)
. I thought that was why Hale sort of
cringed
during that one cutseen, when Cartwright
asked if Hale was all right
.

And the reapers are some of the coolest weapons, they certainly get massive style points.

The reapers are pretty great upclose, although I would still prefer the rossmore L1 ftmfw, nothing like a blue bullseye-carrying elite trying to rush you and you have the rossmore right there ready to hit him with the L1.
Indifferent2.gif
 

Wollan

Member
Regarding this weekends scheduled matches (7pm PST Saturday/Sunday). I'm going out of town and it looks like I won't have a internet connection so I won't be able to shout out the call to you guys when meet up approaches. If you guys could remind each other and repost the PSN tag list or something that would have been helpful. Happy fragging.
 

SleazyC

Member
Wollan said:
Regarding this weekends scheduled matches (7pm PST Saturday/Sunday). I'm going out of town and it looks like I won't have a internet connection so I won't be able to shout out the call to you guys when meet up approaches. If you guys could remind each other and repost the PSN tag list or something that would have been helpful. Happy fragging.
I'll post it, also I never posted in the thread asking for an invite as kaching had said to send him pms by that point so I'll add myself to the list at the same time :D
 

Wollan

Member
Sure thing. Also, if you could add anyone that has posted their name since the last PSN list post, that would have been helpful. Cheers. :)
 

Kittonwy

Banned
Safe Bet said:
..anyone up for some Resistance tonight?

..if so, send me a party invite.

I'm on but I want to play with teh clan (and to test out my 32" Bravia... yeah yeah I might get a 40" 1080p for the living room later but the triny in my bedroom has expired and I needed a small replacement).
Indifferent2.gif
 

SleazyC

Member
If we got a couple people playing tonight then I'm game. You guys have spoiled me so much that I really don't want to play without you guys.

/Group hug
 

Kittonwy

Banned
SleazyC said:
If we got a couple people playing tonight then I'm game. You guys have spoiled me so much that I really don't want to play without you guys.

/Group hug

I made party, me and safety for now. Come join.
Indifferent2.gif
 

squicken

Member
Good times eveyone. My Bluetooth headset completely died. won't even power on anymore. Gonna have to get a USB headset.

This game is so awesome. I can't believe I waited so long to play online :( I'm gonna have to rethink my stance on Gears vs RFoM.
 
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