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Retro AV Club Thread 2: Classic Gaming Done Right!

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What the hell happened to this thread. I stop paying attention for a day and it turns into the Escort OT.

Anyway, I imagine any escort that only asks for 80 (especially CAD) has a meth problem.

Y'all talking about Escorts ITT? Pls tell me it's an unlockable Ford in Sega Rally or something, smh.
 
<not retro and not av>
Risk of a housing market crash has been built into the undervalued dollar for a while now.
</not blah blah blah>

Well I hope you are right. I'm moving out in a couple years and don't want to feel the brunt of a market crash if that happens. I plan on only moving my PVM with me for gaming strangely enough.
 

Conezays

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KAg2ZP3l.jpg

Great looking setup! Jealous of your PVM horde, lol.
 

bodine1231

Member
I just heard back from another video company that emailed weeks ago and the have THE holy grail, a BVM 20F1U with almost no use. However they are asking $750 for it,shit!
 

dubc35

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I just heard back from another video company that emailed weeks ago and the have THE holy grail, a BVM 20F1U with almost no use. However they are asking $750 for it,shit!
haha, I'm sure you could sell the many other PVM's you have to reduce that cost.

Man I need to get on this video company email thing
I thought about it, but I don't have space for anything else and I don't really have the time. I'm fine with my "plebeian" PVM-1954Q, lol. Do I want a nicer one? Perhaps. Do I need a nicer one? No, not at all.
 

bodine1231

Member
haha, I'm sure you could sell the many other PVM's you have to reduce that cost.


I thought about it, but I don't have space for anything else and I don't really have the time. I'm fine with my "plebeian" PVM-1954Q, lol. Do I want a nicer one? Perhaps. Do I need a nicer one? No, not at all.

I've sold both 1954q's. However one is getting shipped so I'm bracing for a damaged unit. I have a 20l5,20m4u,20m2u and 2030 left.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Switching topics: Custom Game Cases dot Com

I kind of want to get boxes for my favorite games and maybe box up all my gb/gbc/gba games into their DS style cases. Anyone had any experience with this company. I really would like to buy 50 DS cases right now and box my games but but its a lot of money for a first order.

The issue I always run into with these sorts of things is that I'll have a few obscure games that there aren't pre-made cases for... and if I buy a case and make the label myself, it's not going to line up properly. Ultimately, I just bought a crate of those universal game cases and called it a day. They get the job done, and it's a hell of a lot cheaper in the long run.

Think I’m gonna get a professionally calibrated and refurbed 20L5 off craigslist for $900.. My 20M4U’s geometry is kinda fucked no matter what I do in the service menu and has a dark spot in it. Will store it as a backup.

Jeez, is it that expensive for them now? I do think it'd be cool to have a PVM or equivalent, but spending that much on that old of a display, used, just bothers me. I can't justify it.

LOL the last time I was in the dating game smart phones didn't exist. I'm only 30 but I feel like I'd be fucking lost in today's scene.

So, about last night:

The first creature was from a game developer that you've heard of, and she was not a classy lady. It took ~5 minutes for her to start talking about her cleavage, which was weird, because she wasn't showing any, but ok. She had a zipper on the back of her pants that went down her butt crack, for easy access. I'm pretty sure that if she sneezed on me, I'd have gotten the clap.

The second one had been betrayed by every man she'd ever known, I'm pretty sure. My friend ducked out of that one within a minute and sent me a text saying "Sorry." He came back ten minutes later to save me. So, +2 to the betrayal list.

Later in the night, once all the ladies were well liquored up, there was one that approached me that was just a mess. You know the type. Loud, obnoxious, grotesque in places. At some point she was like "haaaaaay are you going to the aquarium party?" And I'm like "yeah, probably", because she's clearly the type that if you say "no," you're going to end up in a never-ending cycle of "why not? you should go. come oonnnn." So, you say yes, because you can get out of the conversation faster.

I thought. Then she calls over her equally or greaterly drunk friend and is like "haaaaay, he's going to the aquarium party." FUCK. There's nobody in sight that can bail me out, and if I just walk away, they're going to make a scene. I start to realize that I need to actually get the fuck out of there, because the drunker one was starting to hit on me. But what do I do? Just walk away anyway, despite the risk? No, that'll be a mess. Pretend I see my friend across the way and walk over? Can't. The exit's on the other side, and I'll get caught. There has to be a way out. There HAS to be.

"Sorry, I'm gay."
 
Baller.

I'd pay that much if I knew of some sort of CRT repair shop that can help maintain it. But $900 for such aging/fragile tech at this point seems like a rough gamble. I see the value in it, but I'd be kicking myself if I dropped 900 bones and it died on me within a year or something.

Even the most common of CRTs that are capable of S-Video or better will still look pretty good to my eyes. Yes, BVMs and some PVMs look other-worldly, but I really only got back into the CRT thing because of the lack of lag and genuine 240p/480i native displays. The high end RGB stuff is just icing on the cake.

On the other hand, I'm totally rationalizing my hesitation to drop that kind of dough. Deep down, I want a 20l5 and a companion widescreen BVM to go with it.
Yeah, the specific 20L5 I'm going after has been recently refurbished by a retired Sony tech who got the geometry and color settings into perfect condition and was manufactured in '05.. Probably won't find a better PVM ever again. Tried to offer a lower price for the last few 20F1U and 20L5 monitors I've seen go up for sale and others have snatched them up at the asking prices. But I did manage to get the price down a bit after haggling. Still expensive, but IMO for a 20L5 in perfect condition it's worth it.
I just heard back from another video company that emailed weeks ago and the have THE holy grail, a BVM 20F1U with almost no use. However they are asking $750 for it,shit!
For a 20F1U in great cosmetic condition with low hours, that's actually a good deal. Especially if it comes with the control unit and the bottom mounting bracket for it.
 

bodine1231

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Yeah, the specific 20L5 I'm going after has been recently refurbished by a retired Sony tech who got the geometry and color settings into perfect condition and was manufactured in '05.. Probably won't find a better PVM ever again. Tried to offer a lower price for the last few 20F1U and 20L5 monitors I've seen go up for sale and others have snatched them up at the asking prices. But I did manage to get the price down a bit after haggling. Still expensive, but IMO for a 20L5 in perfect condition it's worth it.

For a unit in great cosmetic condition with low hours, that's actually a good deal.

Don't get me wrong,I'm thinking about it. But I already have,like,the third best CRT with the 20L5 so i don't NEED it. If I didn't it would be an insta purchase.
 
So, about last night:

The first creature was from a game developer that you've heard of, and she was not a classy lady. It took ~5 minutes for her to start talking about her cleavage, which was weird, because she wasn't showing any, but ok. She had a zipper on the back of her pants that went down her butt crack, for easy access. I'm pretty sure that if she sneezed on me, I'd have gotten the clap.

The second one had been betrayed by every man she'd ever known, I'm pretty sure. My friend ducked out of that one within a minute and sent me a text saying "Sorry." He came back ten minutes later to save me. So, +2 to the betrayal list.

Later in the night, once all the ladies were well liquored up, there was one that approached me that was just a mess. You know the type. Loud, obnoxious, grotesque in places. At some point she was like "haaaaaay are you going to the aquarium party?" And I'm like "yeah, probably", because she's clearly the type that if you say "no," you're going to end up in a never-ending cycle of "why not? you should go. come oonnnn." So, you say yes, because you can get out of the conversation faster.

I thought. Then she calls over her equally or greaterly drunk friend and is like "haaaaay, he's going to the aquarium party." FUCK. There's nobody in sight that can bail me out, and if I just walk away, they're going to make a scene. I start to realize that I need to actually get the fuck out of there, because the drunker one was starting to hit on me. But what do I do? Just walk away anyway, despite the risk? No, that'll be a mess. Pretend I see my friend across the way and walk over? Can't. The exit's on the other side, and I'll get caught. There has to be a way out. There HAS to be.

"Sorry, I'm gay."

I didn't get married due to my awful personality.

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So, about last night:

The first creature was from a game developer that you've heard of, and she was not a classy lady. It took ~5 minutes for her to start talking about her cleavage, which was weird, because she wasn't showing any, but ok. She had a zipper on the back of her pants that went down her butt crack, for easy access. I'm pretty sure that if she sneezed on me, I'd have gotten the clap.

The second one had been betrayed by every man she'd ever known, I'm pretty sure. My friend ducked out of that one within a minute and sent me a text saying "Sorry." He came back ten minutes later to save me. So, +2 to the betrayal list.

Later in the night, once all the ladies were well liquored up, there was one that approached me that was just a mess. You know the type. Loud, obnoxious, grotesque in places. At some point she was like "haaaaaay are you going to the aquarium party?" And I'm like "yeah, probably", because she's clearly the type that if you say "no," you're going to end up in a never-ending cycle of "why not? you should go. come oonnnn." So, you say yes, because you can get out of the conversation faster.

I thought. Then she calls over her equally or greaterly drunk friend and is like "haaaaay, he's going to the aquarium party." FUCK. There's nobody in sight that can bail me out, and if I just walk away, they're going to make a scene. I start to realize that I need to actually get the fuck out of there, because the drunker one was starting to hit on me. But what do I do? Just walk away anyway, despite the risk? No, that'll be a mess. Pretend I see my friend across the way and walk over? Can't. The exit's on the other side, and I'll get caught. There has to be a way out. There HAS to be.

"Sorry, I'm gay."


Haha no way. Being single sounds fun! You hate those moments now but you'll miss em later I gaurentee it.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
I had a good laugh at SpiceOrange's quotes.

And nah, I fully acknowledge the comedy of it all. It was stupid, but entertaining.
 

bodine1231

Member
Pulled a bodine1231 and emailed some TV studios and video production labs. Bracing for impact.

Every email you get your heart will skip a beat,it's kinda exciting lol. I got two today from my blitz a few weeks ago. One was the 20L5 and another was "we might,let me get back to you", good luck!
 

bodine1231

Member
Just got some pics from the guy selling the BVM. Man it looks great,and low hours to boot! I dunno if I can pull the trigger though...
 

Morfeo

The Chuck Norris of Peace
So, about last night:

The first creature was from a game developer that you've heard of, and she was not a classy lady. It took ~5 minutes for her to start talking about her cleavage, which was weird, because she wasn't showing any, but ok. She had a zipper on the back of her pants that went down her butt crack, for easy access. I'm pretty sure that if she sneezed on me, I'd have gotten the clap.

The second one had been betrayed by every man she'd ever known, I'm pretty sure. My friend ducked out of that one within a minute and sent me a text saying "Sorry." He came back ten minutes later to save me. So, +2 to the betrayal list.

Later in the night, once all the ladies were well liquored up, there was one that approached me that was just a mess. You know the type. Loud, obnoxious, grotesque in places. At some point she was like "haaaaaay are you going to the aquarium party?" And I'm like "yeah, probably", because she's clearly the type that if you say "no," you're going to end up in a never-ending cycle of "why not? you should go. come oonnnn." So, you say yes, because you can get out of the conversation faster.

I thought. Then she calls over her equally or greaterly drunk friend and is like "haaaaay, he's going to the aquarium party." FUCK. There's nobody in sight that can bail me out, and if I just walk away, they're going to make a scene. I start to realize that I need to actually get the fuck out of there, because the drunker one was starting to hit on me. But what do I do? Just walk away anyway, despite the risk? No, that'll be a mess. Pretend I see my friend across the way and walk over? Can't. The exit's on the other side, and I'll get caught. There has to be a way out. There HAS to be.

"Sorry, I'm gay."

To me it sounds like you had three excellent candidates for some fun right here, but were waaay too picky. Not getting anywhere with that attitude!
 

bodine1231

Member
Well I preorder an Analogue NT Mini. Now I gotta wait until September before they ship it.

I want one soooooooo bad. If I sell my AVS and N8 it'll pay for close to half of it. ..

Just heard back from another place that might have more pvms/bvm . They've got at least 2 sonys and an ikegami and "a bunch of "14inhers". Waiting on model numbers and pics so we will see.
 

Kawika

Member
Back on topic, I tried the custom box route and ultimately decided they just arent original boxes and they don't have the same look or feel. I've flipped alot of my cart only shit and I only do CIB now.

My collecting isn't like most other retro gamers I feel. I had a large collection that was removed from me at some point and now I am rebuilding. My goal is to replace my collection and maybe add the games I loved when I rented or had friends that had them. I actually have most of my boxes in storage. Keeping a game in the real box isn't something I intend on ever doing because i don't want my boxes damaged.

My choice is between bitboxes, custom game cases and the universal game cases. and the relative size of my collection actually isn't that big. I usually use my ROM carts to play (even the games i have 2 feet away won't get pulled out).

My nes & famicom collection is probably 100+ games deep (i didn't have a collecting rule prior to building my nes/fam collection) but I wouldn't want to display all of them. The deep cuts would likely never get reboxed and only my favorite 30 or so games would get the box treatment.

Basically, I want to box my personal NES/SNES/GEN/N64/GB/GBA "classic collections". Which are basically games I would like to replay and box up the things I might only want to revisit every few years.

^ probably a better retro gamer's unite topic. Might repost it there.

PC Engine Topic:

I'm a total PC Engine Noob. I really don't want to collect for systems I never owned and I have mentioned this before but thanks to the Turbo ED I could sample the game's library till I figure out which games I would like to own. What if I only want to play Hu games (for now) how much am I looking at spending w/ rgb mods if necessary to get into this. How much more would it be to do the same thing with one of the units that comes with the CD and Hu card slot.

Dreamcast:

I still want to get a Dreamcast Again but the buy in to get it connected to my bvm or ossc seems pricey. I know a lot of my favorite DC games got ported to other systems i am nearing the end of what I am interested in collecting and seems these two systems are the loose ends I am trying to determine if i want to tie up.
 
I've seen the HuCard only Core Graffix systems go in the 50 - 100 dollar range, and then you could get something like the dbGrafxBooster for I think the 70 - 90 dollar range. Which will get you RGB, and I think S-Video out as well, with out modding. With the dbGrafxBooster it works with Genesis 2 RGB cables, or the genesis 2 HDRetrovision Component cables.

I think most of the set ups that you can play CD games with tend to run around the same range. A non-modded Duo/Duo-R/Duo-RX tend to range like 200 - 300 dollars. I think a core grafx with interface unit and CD Rom drive will run you around the same. Getting one of those RGB modded will probably run you like 80 - 100 bucks.

That's for Japanese hardware. US hardware will run you more, I want to say I think most TG16s will run you about 100 - 150 bucks (dbGrafxBooster works on them too). Last I saw US Duos were like 300 - 400 bucks non modded.

My prices might be slightly off I got my system a while back now and haven't fully been paying attention to the market. So maybe some one who has been can update those prices.
 
PC Engine Topic:

I'm a total PC Engine Noob. I really don't want to collect for systems I never owned and I have mentioned this before but thanks to the Turbo ED I could sample the game's library till I figure out which games I would like to own. What if I only want to play Hu games (for now) how much am I looking at spending w/ rgb mods if necessary to get into this. How much more would it be to do the same thing with one of the units that comes with the CD and Hu card slot.

As a PC Engine Noob, I went for an RGB modded CoreGrafx II unit and a Turbo Everdrive. CoreGrafx units are extremely reasonably priced and I was able to do gauge exactly how much I liked the system. I ended up loving it and went with a re-capped, RGB'd Turbo Duo for a bit more money (they are often in the $200-$300 range).
 

bodine1231

Member
I went all out and got a modded duo r and an everdrive. I'd say you can probably skip the cd part if you aren't into shmups and just get a white pc engine with the RGB add on board. You can play Rondo on the Wii through component.
 

Kawika

Member
I went all out and got a modded duo r and an everdrive. I'd say you can probably skip the cd part if you aren't into shmups and just get a white pc engine with the RGB add on board. You can play Rondo on the Wii through component.

Thats a great idea. My Wii is modded though, when I buy from the eshop does it even check. I turned off wifi years ago.

That's what I did even in 240p and it worked out fine!

I actually own Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles so I can play Rondo that way. PSP games are a little weird on my BVM so maybe I should look into the Wii port.
 

KC-Slater

Member
Dreamcast:

I still want to get a Dreamcast Again but the buy in to get it connected to my bvm or ossc seems pricey. I know a lot of my favorite DC games got ported to other systems i am nearing the end of what I am interested in collecting and seems these two systems are the loose ends I am trying to determine if i want to tie up.

DC stuff is still very affordable (with the exception of Capcom titles, which still aren't even at Saturn prices) and the connectivity is not bad either. (S-Video and VGA cables are dirt cheap, and while may not be the best, are still considerably higher quality than most classic console connections.)

I'd push that to the top of your list in terms of ROI.
 

bodine1231

Member
Thats a great idea. My Wii is modded though, when I buy from the eshop does it even check. I turned off wifi years ago.



I actually own Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles so I can play Rondo that way. PSP games are a little weird on my BVM so maybe I should look into the Wii port.

Then I'd just get a white pc engine and everdrive. You aren't missing anything but amazing shmups on the cd add on.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
I forget -- did Bangai-O have a 240p mode? Maybe I'm confusing that with the lack of VGA box support.

Which, thankfully, stuff like the Hanzo can work around.
 

catabarez

Member
My collecting isn't like most other retro gamers I feel. I had a large collection that was removed from me at some point and now I am rebuilding. My goal is to replace my collection and maybe add the games I loved when I rented or had friends that had them. I actually have most of my boxes in storage. Keeping a game in the real box isn't something I intend on ever doing because i don't want my boxes damaged.

My choice is between bitboxes, custom game cases and the universal game cases. and the relative size of my collection actually isn't that big. I usually use my ROM carts to play (even the games i have 2 feet away won't get pulled out).

My nes & famicom collection is probably 100+ games deep (i didn't have a collecting rule prior to building my nes/fam collection) but I wouldn't want to display all of them. The deep cuts would likely never get reboxed and only my favorite 30 or so games would get the box treatment.

Basically, I want to box my personal NES/SNES/GEN/N64/GB/GBA "classic collections". Which are basically games I would like to replay and box up the things I might only want to revisit every few years.

^ probably a better retro gamer's unite topic. Might repost it there.

PC Engine Topic:

I'm a total PC Engine Noob. I really don't want to collect for systems I never owned and I have mentioned this before but thanks to the Turbo ED I could sample the game's library till I figure out which games I would like to own. What if I only want to play Hu games (for now) how much am I looking at spending w/ rgb mods if necessary to get into this. How much more would it be to do the same thing with one of the units that comes with the CD and Hu card slot.

Dreamcast:

I still want to get a Dreamcast Again but the buy in to get it connected to my bvm or ossc seems pricey. I know a lot of my favorite DC games got ported to other systems i am nearing the end of what I am interested in collecting and seems these two systems are the loose ends I am trying to determine if i want to tie up.

I use Bitbox cases and they are great! I'd say wait for a sale and buy a bunch.
 

Peltz

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I forget -- did Bangai-O have a 240p mode? Maybe I'm confusing that with the lack of VGA box support.

Which, thankfully, stuff like the Hanzo can work around.

Hells yes. The game looks fantastic in 240p. In fact, I think it outputs 240p by default if I'm not mistaken.
 
Bitboxes are legit. Thought they were some cheapo thing till I saw them in person and they are really solid. Also bigger then I thought they would be.
 

bodine1231

Member
If anyone wants to go in on a 100 lot of bitboxes to save some $ I'd be down.

Ok. I'm trying to source what I need to get GBA games on my Gamecube to my PVM. I'll have to slum it in S-video for now. I'm reading that I need to buy one of these and an Action Replay disc,then flash the GBI software to it? Is there a quicker way? I don't want to wait 3 weeks to get that card in.
 

Peltz

Member
If anyone wants to go in on a 100 lot of bitboxes to save some $ I'd be down.

Ok. I'm trying to source what I need to get GBA games on my Gamecube to my PVM. I'll have to slum it in S-video for now. I'm reading that I need to buy one of these and an Action Replay disc,then flash the GBI software to it? Is there a quicker way? I don't want to wait 3 weeks to get that card in.
There's a package on the code breakers website in UK that includes both the disc and the SD converter. Don't worry about the fact that it's U.K. They know to send you a North American disc if appropriate.

Remember only certain types of SD cards will be recognized and allow you to boot programs. Otherwise the disc defaults to just Action Replay. I needed to try a few cards before I found the right type that worked.
 

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
There's a package on the code breakers website in UK that includes both the disc and the SD converter. Don't worry about the fact that it's U.K. They know to send you a North American disc if appropriate.

Remember only certain types of SD cards will be recognized and allow you to boot programs. Otherwise the disc defaults to just Action Replay. I needed to try a few cards before I found the right type that worked.
Codejunkies, not breakers.
 
OK, I want to buy a cable from RCA on ebay that is out of stock. I know she usually sells them as she makes them. Do I need to make an offer in order to initiate a request for one to be made? She asks people to read her FAQ before emailing about offers but for the life of me I cannot find a damn FAQ anywhere on her store pages. Ebay's re-fucking-diculous 1990s web design doesn't help.

What do I need to do?
 
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