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GAFers are the best bet for trades. It ususally works out as a ~ like for ~ like trade, or trade plus cash on one end for one or several items on the other end. I like trades. It minimizes dipping into capital. However, I usually leave my posts open to either trade or cash.
bodine1231
Member
Ok thanks. I assume I post that on the regular Buy/sell community forum? I'll take better pics of what I'm letting go and post it tonight for those here that are interested.
RadarScope1
Member
Yes, just post in B/S/T. Might want to give a link to your For Sale post here in this thread, too. And I will PM you!
davidwhangchoi
Member
anyone want to trade for a double of: starfox adventures, ring of red,dino crisis 2 (and dino one), resident evil 3 green label, blaster master loose. lol jk =P
bodine1231
Member
Ok guys,just posted on the B/S/T
Still undecided about what to do with the boxed Ninja Gaiden 3 and Bucky O Hare. Would probably let go of Ninja Gaiden before Bucky.
BTW,just got this thing in. For $30 its pretty damn neat,alot of really good games here. One thing that it does over the Everdrive is that it gives you a nice menu with a thumbnail of each game. I don't understand why,for the price,the Everdrive is just a boring list.
D.Lo
Member
I love vintage pirate carts, there were some interesting things created back in the day, like FDS conversions (which usually had extra chips on the cart to manage the hacked rom), various interesting rom hacks, and even entire new sequels/games (like Contra 7/8). Same with clone hardware, I swear the NES/fami sold 200 million consoles, 80% of NES/Famicom stuff sold over the years was unlicensed, a recent SMS youtube episode had a Brazilian catalogue from the 90s, it was showing how the Tectoy licensed SMS the 'premium' option selling against literally dozens of various Famicom clones from multiple companies.
Most modern ones from post-industrialised China I find a bit meh though, much less creativity just straight piracy.
Mini RTTP. I just beat Link to the Past for the second time today and wanted to share my thoughts. It's not a game I've played often (only one other time long ago).
Link to the Past is definitely the best Zelda game I've played. It's got the best difficulty balance and is the result of so much innovation. The game's puzzles and world are mysterious without anyone like Navi telling you obvious clues of where to go next. And the ending is very epic feeling
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It still feels like a technical marvel on SNES hardware despite some areas of slowdown. Sure there are not many "special" effects. The sprite work in the game, however, is insanely coherent. The placement of every object feels very organic without compromising level design and interactivity. Each character has perfect cartoony proportions along with all the in game objects. The game's world has a charm that feels small and personal, without getting in the way of making the quest feel epic.
The entire game is a master class in level design. Every single screen in the game has something of significance in it from a gameplay perspective. There are no empty areas like there are in other Zeldas. Every object is important and everything in the overworld feels like it's part of one large coherent level.
Compare this to Zelda 1, where, yes every screen had secrets, but most screens on the overworld were generic areas for enemies to attack you. A Link to the Past, in contrast, feels lush with how there is always something interactive immediately on the screen and that interactive thing is a unique part of your quest.
Although I love the entire series, it feels a bit like they got away from this.
Link to the Past is definitely the best Zelda game I've played. It's got the best difficulty balance and is the result of so much innovation. The game's puzzles and world are mysterious without anyone like Navi telling you obvious clues of where to go next. And the ending is very epic feeling
when you get the triforce
It still feels like a technical marvel on SNES hardware despite some areas of slowdown. Sure there are not many "special" effects. The sprite work in the game, however, is insanely coherent. The placement of every object feels very organic without compromising level design and interactivity. Each character has perfect cartoony proportions along with all the in game objects. The game's world has a charm that feels small and personal, without getting in the way of making the quest feel epic.
The entire game is a master class in level design. Every single screen in the game has something of significance in it from a gameplay perspective. There are no empty areas like there are in other Zeldas. Every object is important and everything in the overworld feels like it's part of one large coherent level.
Compare this to Zelda 1, where, yes every screen had secrets, but most screens on the overworld were generic areas for enemies to attack you. A Link to the Past, in contrast, feels lush with how there is always something interactive immediately on the screen and that interactive thing is a unique part of your quest.
Although I love the entire series, it feels a bit like they got away from this.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
I love LttP, but I think Link's Awakening and A Link Between Worlds have it beat. I also have a soft spot for Oracle of Ages and Seasons (to a lesser extent than Ages). It was great to see the series continue the LttP style despite the move to 3D. Actually makes me really hope we see another Ocarina of Time style 3D now that ABotW is taking things in a different direction.
davidwhangchoi
Member
i re- brought LTTP this year to replay. as i kid i could never get past a certain point bc i didn't have a hint book/map or stuff that came with it and there's a blind spot to chain link to get to another area not shown to progress that i could never figure out as a kid. someday i'm ready to finally beat it.
There is grass on the ground there in the shape of an arrow. That's what clued me in to hookshot across.
See it on the right?
D.Lo
Member
Agree with all that, but actually prefer Link's Awakening for the same reasons amplified.
It's obviously even more limited by hardware, but is even more tightly designed. And even more mysterious and even less waste. It also has more of a story (though still a light touch) more humour and more memorable characters.
It's obviously even more limited by hardware, but is even more tightly designed. And even more mysterious and even less waste. It also has more of a story (though still a light touch) more humour and more memorable characters.
davidwhangchoi
Member
There is grass on the ground there in the shape of an arrow. That's what clued me in to hookshot across.
See it on the right?
apparently, i didn't see it in high school. lol damn, that drove me crazy.
Depending on how I feel on any given day, Link to the Past or Link's Awakening is my favourite Zelda. Usually whichever one I played last, so currently it's LA. The sense of exploration, all the secrets to find, the clues, the music (DAT OVERWORLD THEME VARIATION)... It really just is a blast to play.
I don't know if I've ever played the DX exclusive dungeon though, I should go back to that!
I don't know if I've ever played the DX exclusive dungeon though, I should go back to that!
sixteen-bit
Member
LA is totally my favorite Zelda
CrashPrime
Member
Basically definitive except the criminally absent Zelda games.
Would that cart work on a clone console?
davidwhangchoi
Member
hey guys, i ordered the snes box protectors by videogame through amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FUJULBY/?tag=neogaf0e-20
and they're really tight compared to the ones i got at my local retro stores included with my snes game purchases. i feel like my boxes might get creased or crushed to squeeze in.
anyone use these?
or recommend a place to order protective boxes that give a wee bit of room?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FUJULBY/?tag=neogaf0e-20
and they're really tight compared to the ones i got at my local retro stores included with my snes game purchases. i feel like my boxes might get creased or crushed to squeeze in.
anyone use these?
or recommend a place to order protective boxes that give a wee bit of room?
D.Lo
Member
Everybody's favourite Zelda depends on what they value. Adventurers love Wind Waker, dungeon fans love Twilight Princess or Ocarina, Story/world fans love Majora's Mask, Wind Waker and Link's Awakening.
Link's Awakening is IMO unquestionably the game with the tightest design in the series. Super Metroid level.
A Black Falcon
Member
Link's Awakening is a truly exceptional game, one of the greats in every category. LttP is... a good game that, in my opinion, is quite overrated. It still has way too much of that annoying NES Zelda-like "wander around and find required stuff without clues" design that I have never liked, the dungeon designs are not great (they're way too linear, among other things), I have never liked the sprite art design, the world layout is the most boring thing ever in a Zelda game, etc.
Yes, it is a good game (I'd probably give it an A-), and it was pushing the series forward in a lot of ways at the time, but it's impossible for me to ignore how badly dated it feels in some respects compared to most any Zelda game released after it, or all of the other issues I have with the game. It's far from a perfect masterpiece. As much as I love the series, I am sure that there is no Zelda game I have criticized more over the years than LttP. (A lot of that was on another forum and not this one, but I've got posts criticizing LttP going back to at least 2003. And on that note, I keep meaning to put all that stuff together and write up a big 'my issues with LttP' thing for my site/this forum... I should do that.)
Oh, and in my opinion among the 2d Zelda games, Oracle of Ages and Seasons are both better than LttP too. I love those games! Bad stories, great gameplay. The Minish Cap was a real disappointment though, what happened there? But anyway.
Yes, it is a good game (I'd probably give it an A-), and it was pushing the series forward in a lot of ways at the time, but it's impossible for me to ignore how badly dated it feels in some respects compared to most any Zelda game released after it, or all of the other issues I have with the game. It's far from a perfect masterpiece. As much as I love the series, I am sure that there is no Zelda game I have criticized more over the years than LttP. (A lot of that was on another forum and not this one, but I've got posts criticizing LttP going back to at least 2003. And on that note, I keep meaning to put all that stuff together and write up a big 'my issues with LttP' thing for my site/this forum... I should do that.)
Oh, and in my opinion among the 2d Zelda games, Oracle of Ages and Seasons are both better than LttP too. I love those games! Bad stories, great gameplay. The Minish Cap was a real disappointment though, what happened there? But anyway.
bodine1231
Member
Spent most of the night playing a bunch of PC Engine games with the Everdrive. Both Legendary Axes are pretty damn cool. I got the second one for christmas but never owned the first. The first is much much harder than the 2nd,I do like the checkpoint system in the first game though,made it way less frustrating. I did fell myself getting better which is also great. I almost beat part 2 on one continue! Very easy game.
I remember liking Bonks Revenge alot as a kid,but I don't like it at all now. Weird ass hit boxes (especially on the Ballerina boss) and Bonk is just so low and tanky, did not have a good time playing. It's still really beautiful though.
(Devils Crush is still awesome)
I remember liking Bonks Revenge alot as a kid,but I don't like it at all now. Weird ass hit boxes (especially on the Ballerina boss) and Bonk is just so low and tanky, did not have a good time playing. It's still really beautiful though.
(Devils Crush is still awesome)
entremet
Member
Yep.
Game is gorgeous, however. But LA's is my favorite of the 2D set. It also had a lot of personality. LTTP was missing that. Marin of LA was much more thoughtful than Princess Zelda of LTTP.
You think it has tighter design than LttP? I know it's a large question, but why? How?
I think they are able to do almost as much as LttP with less pixels. So in that respect, I agree. But I still think LttP has better pacing than LA.
Both games are clear classics though. And someone else mentioned they didn't like Minish Cap, but I also thought that game was great.
RadarScope1
Member
ABF, which do you believe in the best 2D Zelda game? Is it a LttP despite those flaws or do you like another entry better?
D.Lo
Member
Well yeah less pixels is one thing it's just insanely impressive. And it has more personality and intrigue in its world despite it being a smaller one.
There's just less waste. LTTP isn't fatty but LA trims the action adventure to the bone. The flip screen graphics really help in this regard, each map 'tile' in LTTP is several screens in size, so there are quite a lot of spots without anything in them, wheras in LA literally every single square is used.
This is one of those things when you're arguing between a 9.5/10 and a 10/10 and it ends up sounding like you think the 9.5/10 sucks lol. To me it kind of feels like LTTP is the perfect Zelda, but LA is even better than perfect.
theSlacker
Member
I always thought I was bias towards LA because I was able to beat it before LttP, so never really brought it up as I try to be mindful of nostalgia effecting my opinions. Guess it isn't an uncommon opinion though.
That's a good point. Cool take on it.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
Might sound dumb but I really like being able to jump in Link's Awakening. Opened up avenues for different puzzles too.
Hawk269
Member
What software do you guys use to catalog your collections? I am looking for something I can key into but also be able to call it up on my phone when I am out in a Store. Me and my Wife are moving at the end of January and I started boxing up all my stuff and decided to finally write down every game I own going back to my Atari 2600 collection. I need a program that I can key in each systems software and then be able to print it out, but also have access to it on the fly with my phone.
Thanks!
Thanks!
dead souls
Member
Not dumb at all. It was a fun mechanic.
Hawk269
Member
Thanks! Been messing with it for a little bit, very cool website. Thank you again!!!
bodine1231
Member
If you had to choose between a consolised MVS and an RGB modded Turbo Duo which would you choose? Both run under $500 and I'm going to try and save up for one but I can't decide. I already own a PC Engine.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
RGB-modded Turbo Duo. Mostly because consolized MVSes are easy to come across, and I'm of the opinion that one should spring for a supergun and a normal MVS anyway.
A Black Falcon
Member
LA is the best 2d Zelda game, of course, followed by Oracle of Ages in second. After that would be Oracle of Seasons. Fourth is much harder, but LttP probably takes it.
The drawn promo art done for the game looks great, but as for the actual in-game sprite art, I disagree; I've never much liked the look of LttP's sprites, they're kind of weird looking and too cartoony...
A lot of things are better in LA than LttP, yeah -- story, characters, world design, controls, dungeons, gameplay...
LttP's world is incredibly boring in terms of layout, first -- it's just a central castle surrounded by themed areas, that's it. It's the least interesting map of any 2d Zelda game.
And in that map, as D.Lo kind of said, you have lots of areas in LttP that are pointless empty space, random trees that serve no purpose, space that you just run through because there are few barriers to your progress in most of the world, etc. LttP has a much larger world than LA, but it feels small because there's so little to do and there is much less gating.
In comparison, LA's world feels bigger than it is because everything matters, every area is carefully designed and important, the world has a more interesting and varied layout, and there is a much better sense of progression as you explore new areas of the island. It's masterful stuff compared to LttP's large but often pointless areas.
The 3d Zelda comparison here is Majora's Mask, the 3d Zelda game with a smaller-feeling, but more tightly designed and interesting, world than its predecessor (OoT) has. In that case I think OoT is the better game by far, in large part because I find MM's time element very frustrating, but I will admit that I like its world design a lot.
Better pacing? Why? LA's pacing is pretty much perfect. LttP's is fine, that's not one of the bigger flaws with the game, but all of the issues hold it back here too for sure.
A lot of people do seem to like Minish Cap, but I've always found it quite disappointing. I really love Capcom's first two Zelda games (Oracles and Seasons), as I said, but Minish Cap is a big step down from those games in a lot of ways. It's got an absurdly small world, art direction I have never liked, a very low difficulty level (this is so disappointing compared to the pretty tough GBC games!), and more... it's alright, but insubstantial. I probably consider it one of the weakest 2d Zelda games, though it's still good for sure.
I mostly cover some of my thoughts on this above, but yeah, in addition to LA having the best story in a Zelda game, the job they did at making the world feel so much more interesting than it was in LttP is impressive for sure.
One thing I've often noticed here, for example, is that trees in LttP use four times more tiles than trees in LA do. So LttP's world is bigger, but not more interesting, and there's more to the LA world than its "small" size would suggest if you'd only played the SNES game.
That's not dumb at all, jumping is great fun!
I used to use some web stuff, but gave up (because all of the ones I've seen have big issues, either lots of missing games, lack of updates, or what have you) and now just use a spreadsheet. For something on the internet... maybe GameFAQs, since of the sites with a database they might have the most complete one?
PumpkinSpice
Banned
The last time I played Minish Cap was right after doing LttP on GBA and I think that helped me to realize how many problems it has.
Aside from the cute style and interesting premise, it doesn't have a lot going for it. The items they added are terrible, the dungeon design is really plain, there's hardly any exploration, it's really short, and the game just ends up feeling really boring. And maybe it's nitpicking but the sound effects just sound awful... they're using the original GB audio channels but they sound out of place against the whatever GBA softsynth they're using, and even then (like there's some amazing GB-audio work out there) it sounds cheap and almost like they're from mid-90s shovelware.
Aside from the cute style and interesting premise, it doesn't have a lot going for it. The items they added are terrible, the dungeon design is really plain, there's hardly any exploration, it's really short, and the game just ends up feeling really boring. And maybe it's nitpicking but the sound effects just sound awful... they're using the original GB audio channels but they sound out of place against the whatever GBA softsynth they're using, and even then (like there's some amazing GB-audio work out there) it sounds cheap and almost like they're from mid-90s shovelware.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
(double post, completely different topic)
Anyone remember talk about making a PS3 or 360 or PS3+360 thread? No? Well I decided to go ahead with it.
I'll post it tomorrow morning, so if you have any feedback please post now!
Anyone remember talk about making a PS3 or 360 or PS3+360 thread? No? Well I decided to go ahead with it.
I'll post it tomorrow morning, so if you have any feedback please post now!
D.Lo
Member
Looks pretty good, and I've actually just done a sweep of buying PS3 games cheap. Now IS the time.
It makes 200% sense to combine them too, compared to almost every other console (except probably PS4Bone) they really are a two headed single platform.
I really need to get another 360, I swore I never would after the one I had died and kept crashing . But I need one for the superior 360 versions of so many games.
It makes 200% sense to combine them too, compared to almost every other console (except probably PS4Bone) they really are a two headed single platform.
I really need to get another 360, I swore I never would after the one I had died and kept crashing . But I need one for the superior 360 versions of so many games.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
I'll post more after I make the thread, but I was hearing a lot about Nier and decided to look into disc-only PS3 games and picked up the rest of the ones I think I might care about yesterday. Mostly I do PSN sales to get stuff on PS3 so I've been really lacking on disc games. Being able to get top notch games for dirt cheap new, and next to nothing used, it's definitely the right time to buy, especially while everyone is busy buying 4K consoles and unable to consider 720p and lower any more.
D.Lo
Member
I just got myself
Okami HD (Japanese disc release)
Wanda and the Colossus (Japanese disc release)
Dark Souls
Siren Blood Curse
Shadow of the Damned
Yakuza 4
Vanquish
For a few bucks each. I'm grabbing Mikami/Suda stuff, quirkier games by auteurs.
Doing research to make sure I get the best version. I never played Red Dead and grabbed that, but the 360 version is vastly superior so will wait for that.
Okami HD (Japanese disc release)
Wanda and the Colossus (Japanese disc release)
Dark Souls
Siren Blood Curse
Shadow of the Damned
Yakuza 4
Vanquish
For a few bucks each. I'm grabbing Mikami/Suda stuff, quirkier games by auteurs.
Doing research to make sure I get the best version. I never played Red Dead and grabbed that, but the 360 version is vastly superior so will wait for that.
Yes, hope you like Dark Souls, I really enjoy it's challenge.
Laevateinn
Member
entremet
Member
Great!
Subbed, thanks!
I agree with D.Lo too, now is the time to get the PS360 stuff. It's cheap and plentiful. You can even get good deals on stuff still sealed.
AtomicPumpkin
Neo Member
As far a Link's Awakening goes, which is the definitive version? The original or DX? I heard they made changes to the gameplay in DX.
They added an extra dungeon in DX, which allows you to pick a Red or Blue tunic at the end, which have different effects: One raises your attack power whereas the other raises your defense, I think?
They also added support for the Gameboy Printer, where you can get your picture taken then print it out.
I seem to think those were the only changes, besides colour of course, but someone correct me if I'm wrong!
AtomicPumpkin
Neo Member
I thought I heard there were changes in difficulty, as well, but maybe I'm smokin' something.