blast processed
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Made a 90's PC Gaming Appreciation thread for you console lovers
Edit: Added this link to the OP of that thread.
Edit: Added this link to the OP of that thread.
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Subbed and contributed with some of my favourite memories. Also, now I crave playing some Sierra adventures.
A Black Falcon
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Great thread! I'l be posting for sure.
One thing to add here, if you want to link it -- I did one other PC summaries list, of racing games, a few years ago: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491352 Both cover modern games as well as '90s ones of course, but PC gaming doesn't have hard break-points so that's fine. On that note, I did kind of like the 'pre-Steam' concept because I think of classic PC gaming as having died off over the course of the '00s, but I'm sure that thread can cover that even if the title doesn't. But yeah, regardless, '90s PC gaming was the best gaming has been, so it's great to have a thread for it.
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blast processed
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Great thread! I'l be posting for sure.
One thing to add here, if you want to link it -- I did one other PC summaries list, of racing games, a few years ago: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491352 Both cover modern games as well as '90s ones of course, but PC gaming doesn't have hard break-points so that's fine. On that note, I did kind of like the 'pre-Steam' concept because I think of classic PC gaming as having died off over the course of the '00s, but I'm sure that thread can cover that even if the title doesn't. But yeah, regardless, '90s PC gaming was the best gaming has been, so it's great to have a thread for it.
I'll add it. Also, I've been batting it back and forth for awhile now and figured if I made a thread covering one genre, or a specific company it wouldn't have any legs. So I figured a celebration of everything PC gaming related in one decade, is the best way to go about it. Hopefully it'll last because I love talking about PC games and I'll keep updating the OP as it goes.
davidwhangchoi
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hey guys, i got another shooter (i posted gradius V before) with some random games:
A Black Falcon
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Yeah, one thread for everything is the right idea, for a retro platform thread. Agreed.
But as for my point there, what I meant was that having the thread title be about all PC gaming from before he fall of PC retail in the '00s, as opposed to specifically saying "the '90s". It's a somewhat minor issue, but '80s and early '00s PC games certainly are retro too, and an '80s PC thread probably would not do well considering how it was the '90s when the platform hit its stride, and a lot of us here didn't start playing PC games until the '90s either... and while the '00s had lots of great PC games, it was a period of decline in favor of consoles that only the rise of Steam and other DD platforms started to turn around, and Steam took some time to get popular.
PumpkinSpice
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It's different too since most games from after 2000 work on Windows XP and mostly modern DirectX/OpenGL and so are relatively easy to run modern Windows and graphics cards.
Stuff from the 9X and 3dfx era is all kinds of messed up today... even if you can get them running it's not the same, there are a lot of quirks.
A Black Falcon
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That depends on the game, really. I mean, you are right that many 9x games run terribly on modern OSes, but I can't get some '00s games to work right either -- Medieval: Total War (not counting the digital-download fixed version that is now available) for example, or for another one I was recently trying to play Jade Empire again... and even though I used the same computer and OS as when I last played it years ago, nope, game won't start. It hangs on the loading screen before you get to the main menu. I tried some fixes but nothing worked.
So yeah, you are right that many games run badly on newer systems,but sadly it's not only '90s games that have these problems. And earlier '90s games are mostly fine, since DOSbox helps most DOS games run well... it's the Win9x stuff where you really run into problems.
IrishNinja
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okay, so i know i've asked, but now that i have a proper CRT setup: easiest way to get a 2600 setup? right now i've got that adapter that has the two metal U's you'd have to use a screwdriver on old sets to lock into place, but this clearly lacks that. there's another end that looks like coaxial might work, assuming that's the case it's prolly my best bet yeah?
i should really take a pic, but i feel like ive seen this with most atari setups in the day
i should really take a pic, but i feel like ive seen this with most atari setups in the day
Shadow Hog
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Easiest would be coaxial from my recollection, yeah.
Best would be to look into viletim's RGB mod, but that's probably overkill for the Atari 2600.
Best would be to look into viletim's RGB mod, but that's probably overkill for the Atari 2600.
Shadowman16
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Alpha anthology is ace, I love that they included both the standard alpha 3 and the upper version that gives you all the console characters. It loses a point for not including the wealth of modes that the console versions have though, especially world tour mode.
X7 is a nightmare though, watch out for that one!
Hopefully this isn't frowned upon as cross promotion but
I'm selling my SNES Pi console, just in case anyone here is interested.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=202500803
I'm selling my SNES Pi console, just in case anyone here is interested.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=202500803
Shin Johnpv
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The 2600 by default just has a cable coming out of it that looks like an RCA end right? That's the RF signal from it. Does that adapter take in that RCA end and then give you coaxial, and the two prongs out? I ask because some of those adapters were for changing coaxial to the 2 prongs not really an RF adapter. A picture would definitely help. That said though yes if it takes the RCA like jack from the 2600 and has a coaxial output that would work.
Though like it was suggested there is an RGB mod for the 2600. If I remember right it doesn't run too much, and I don't think it's too hard to install. I actually just dug out my 2600 to see if I could find my power cable and controllers, because I'm thinking baout doing the RGB mod to mine.
Kawika
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Just bought one of these on eBay
Anyone got any experience with them?
To echo everyone's opinion of the Ascii Pad. Its quite good. I remember reading about how the superfamicom had different colors buttons than the SNES did. All my friends asked why this didn't have the 2 tones of purple. I actually preferred it. Every time I see one in the retro shop I snag one. I got 3 now (you know, just in case).
sixteen-bit
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I have 2 in total, and on 1 of them I actually swapped in the purple and lavender NA SNES buttons, lol. Those parts are interchangeable for reasons outlined above.
davidwhangchoi
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oh thanks for the heads up on X7, i got it to be a completionist. i got x8 recently for 35 bucks and this was only 20 bucks so i threw it in.
i was playing the gem fighter game that's included. it's pretty cool to see, SD versions of each characters fighting it out like a fighting game.
Shadowman16
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Gem Fighters is an ace little game, I forgot that was included as an extra.
As for X7 - its worth playing once, but just keep in mind that its a 3D Mega Man game which unsurprisingly means that the camera is a mess and bosses aren't all that great compared to past games. X8 on the other hand is way better, and if you have a Command Mission save file on the same memory card when you reach a certain boss you unlock a secret bonus fight (its really easy, but its a cool little Easter egg none the less.
Might be worth trying to clean the tips of the cartridge slots with rubbing alcohol if you have any handy. I use the stuff on a few carts that have issues and it makes the world of difference.
So that ascii pad for the SNES turned up today. It arrived in a filthy state, as I thought it would - I purposely chose one that was like that to get it at a lower price than one in immaculate condition as I would likely be able to clean it up.
I was right! How it looks now:
And this controller is amazing. It's even better than the stock Nintendo controller in almost every way. It's also much better to hold.
I was right! How it looks now:
And this controller is amazing. It's even better than the stock Nintendo controller in almost every way. It's also much better to hold.
cyborgnumberblue
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I'm jumping on this ascii pad train!
Is there a recommended cleaning method for older controllers? I think my Saturn pads could use a scrubdown, too.
Is there a recommended cleaning method for older controllers? I think my Saturn pads could use a scrubdown, too.
sixteen-bit
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disassemble then scrub the plastic components with soap and water
Shin Johnpv
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Like has been suggested about cleaning them with rubbing alcohol (want to use the 90+ percent stuff) using a good eraser that doesn't leave a ton of pieces behind is really handy too. Whenever I have carts that won't read or seem to not be working, I hit them with the eraser and then rubbing alcohol and 99% of the time they work fine after.
Totally agreed! I got one for 3 bucks at Goodwill in mint condition. One of my best finds.
Is it 240p?
No, 480p.
IrishNinja
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just wanted to echo others here, also ive done that trick where you clean the system's contacts with a credit card in a rag/etc, maybe a little alcohol but be sure to dry it after as well!
i'm in the market for a cheap SMS & feel confident i could get it working, if you've not other options, haha
Ok, thanks! Guess this is the version to get for me, considering the price of the Saturn Zero3.
sixteen-bit
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If you want the console single player modes that everyone likes (i.e. World Tour) you could always go for the DC version in lieu of the pricey Saturn release. DC ver is 240p.
Then again Alpha Anthology has that funky system direction mode that lets you customize the game to have like parries and shit which id fun to mess around with.
I always heard the DC-version wasnt that great, but its been a long time. Sounds tempting to get the World Tour at least, why is that not in anthology lol. Does it run decent?
IrishNinja
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DC version's fine
So today my friend gifted me something he found at Goodwill... It's a copy of Alan Wake Special Edition... In French. The disc cases say NTSC... Canadian then?
I know, I know "Televator, it's too early to bring up 360 games in the retro thread. GTFO." Still, it's a bit of a cool curiosity for someone living in America's hottest desert.
I know, I know "Televator, it's too early to bring up 360 games in the retro thread. GTFO." Still, it's a bit of a cool curiosity for someone living in America's hottest desert.
cyborgnumberblue
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Crossposting from the CRT thread: If anybody in the Boston area is interested, I am selling my 13" Sony PVM-1354Q. Please PM me if interested.
Hmmm, I can check my Canadian Special Edition when I get home, but I'm almost positive it's English packaging... Or bilingual at the worst.one that is predominantly French is most likely from Quebec.
Thanks for the reply. It's Korean one, I assume it has a Jp bios. Normally I'd expect Korean anything to be worth more, but this one has a cracked shell so that should bring the price down. As it's purely cosmetic I'd consider it if it was cheap, but if that's the going rate then I think I'll skip it.
Shadowman16
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Got a some new bits for my collection that I'm over joyed with (well, my wallet wasn't!):
Popeye Game & Watch Table Top
Snoopy Game & Watch Table Top
Donkey Kong Jr Game & Watch Table Top
Mario's Cement Factory Game & Watch Table Top
It was a pain to find a perfect place to store the four games, as they were just slightly too big for several spots, so I had to play Tetris with my collection to make room. I've now got 41/60 G&W handhelds in my collection (all boxed). Unfortunately most of the remaining 19 are now incredibly expensive so I'll be getting them one every few months from now on.
Popeye Game & Watch Table Top
Snoopy Game & Watch Table Top
Donkey Kong Jr Game & Watch Table Top
Mario's Cement Factory Game & Watch Table Top
It was a pain to find a perfect place to store the four games, as they were just slightly too big for several spots, so I had to play Tetris with my collection to make room. I've now got 41/60 G&W handhelds in my collection (all boxed). Unfortunately most of the remaining 19 are now incredibly expensive so I'll be getting them one every few months from now on.
Very nice set! I liked looking at all your mega man pictures in your album too. Very impressive collection.
Shadowman16
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Thanks
The Game & Watch stuff is a great on going collection I'm working on. I was overjoyed to get the four games in decent condition boxes, because its really hard to find the boxes in good conditions these days. Plus finding all 4 again is really tough. So i really lucked out that a great collector was willing to sell me all four!I think the Mega Man picture set is out of date, I've got even more stuff since then. That series is by far my favourite game series ever! I love replaying them again and again. I just wish I could get the last Rockman PC game for my collection and I'm probably up to date with my collection, unless Capcom resurrect the series.
IrishNinja
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absolutely gorgeous stuff, Shadowman...i dont know that ive seen those boxed since being a kid, if even then!
Shadowman16
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Thanks
I love that there are still some old pricing labels on the boxes. Crazy how cheap these were sold when they were reduced back in the day, certainly far less than I paid for them!I just need to track down the manuals for two of them. Usually I only buy complete G&W handhelds, but I was willing to make an exception for these, as the manuals turn up on eBay from time to time and shouldn't break the bank cost wise.
davidwhangchoi
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hey guys,
i got a few more games.
i got a few more games.
one of them is megaman 8 with anthology booklet
blast processed
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Sega launched a "Sega Arcade Game History" website with Arcades going from 1973-2012.
Pretty cool with screen shots and cab pics, but boo for being in Japanese. So if someone wants to translate all of it for us, that would be much appreciated.
Pretty cool with screen shots and cab pics, but boo for being in Japanese. So if someone wants to translate all of it for us, that would be much appreciated.
Shadowman16
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Ah, you got lucky with that MM8 edition. Its (in my experience) the harder to find, more sort after version as the booklet is fairly hard to get hold of these days. There are three versions of MM8 on the Playstation - A version that just contains the game, a "special anniversary" edition that comes with the booklet and the Greatest Hits version. You managed to get the best version (well, best PSX version, the Saturn version with its extra graphical effects and bosses is the real best version!)
IrishNinja
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wow, never seen that booklet before - nice find, dave!
this is so cooool! +1 for wanting a translation as well
this is so cooool! +1 for wanting a translation as well
I posted this in the SNES thread, but thought I'd share here too (and I want to know if I did good or fucked up too!)
soooo
I bought this on ebay. £80 total, free postage from japan (and the guy marked it as a gift below £20 for me so no customs I hope)
I'll be selling the two controllers as I have a classic pal pad and an asciipad I would rather use, and that'll give me back £15 or so at least. I'll also be rgb modding the console of course. The console looks a bit grubby, but I don't see any yellowing that would be an issue or any damage - the shell just needs some time in a sink with some scrubbing.
good deal? yeah? no?
soooo
I bought this on ebay. £80 total, free postage from japan (and the guy marked it as a gift below £20 for me so no customs I hope)
I'll be selling the two controllers as I have a classic pal pad and an asciipad I would rather use, and that'll give me back £15 or so at least. I'll also be rgb modding the console of course. The console looks a bit grubby, but I don't see any yellowing that would be an issue or any damage - the shell just needs some time in a sink with some scrubbing.
good deal? yeah? no?
D.Lo
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Looks about the going rate really.
Good little machine! Careful not to damage the label when scrubbing.
Shin Johnpv
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I love the Super Famicom button colors.
I got my PCEngine Duo back from being recapped, laser fixed, and rgb modded and it looks amazing. I played some Rondo of Blood last night and it looked amazing.
I got my PCEngine Duo back from being recapped, laser fixed, and rgb modded and it looks amazing. I played some Rondo of Blood last night and it looked amazing.
davidwhangchoi
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congrats! what's the cost to do all that?