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It moved to #1 at gamestop
There was months or even years of "who is this even for" and "ps5 isn't even fully utilized".Nobody said it was DOA. Stop making shit up
We don't know how its doing and wont until we get numbers for the Q. So whats your point?There was months or even years of "who is this even for" and "ps5 isn't even fully utilized".
Let's not pretend like we were anywhere near consensus about how this was going to do, if it even released.
There was months or even years of "who is this even for" and "ps5 isn't even fully utilized".
Let's not pretend like we were anywhere near consensus about how this was going to do, if it even released.
Nobody said it was DOA. Stop making shit up
Why are you using the ranks in PC & video games? If you use accessories it's the best sellingIts not the "it" item outside of nerd circles like ours, and even then i wouldn't consider it as such myself. It would have sold out if so.
I'll ask again seen as you ignored my post. Why do you think it will outsell the 4 Pro?
Also is this the controller you are referring to when "selling like hot cakes"? It had a good year last year but doesnt seem to be doing too hot right now if so.
Live look at the hatersSeems like the same people predicting it was too expensive and doa are now the same people saying of course it's going to sell.
All those flavours and people still choosing salt.
Second most sold PS5 in Amazon Brasil, 13th in videogames, and it just sold out.
And it costs like U$1.200,00....
dunno my Amazon chart skill ain't too hot. Didn't even know there was an accessory category.Why are you using the ranks in PC & video games? If you use accessories it's the best selling
I wonder how many units they had available here in Brazil.Second most sold PS5 in Amazon Brasil, 13th in videogames, and it just sold out.
And it costs like U$1.200,00....
This shouldn't be surprising. The hardcore will be there day one and it will be a hot ticket Xmas item. I'll be interested to see the sales a year from now.
A Series X Pro likely wouldn’t do big numbers at all. It would have to be a new gen entirely to gain any real attention and even then there’s no guarantee.Yeah it's a hot new playstation console, the die hards will jump on day 1. I would be getting one day 1 if I could have got the 30th anniversary console, but I'm going to wait till Jan/Feb to see what it does for games before i jump in, just bought a new Gpu. I would expect a series X pro would also do big numbers at first but then settle down.
I think the PS4 pro did about 10% of total PS4 sales so expect this to be similar. I guess it's a pure profit machine for Sony with the cost, and digital so every game is pure Sony profit too.
Um, if you listen to many online, for it to be DOA.it's the new unreleased thing...
what did you expect?
It can both not meet expectations in sales and still be the number 1 selling console at a retailer.Um, if you listen to many online, for it to be DOA.
You won’t find a single article/thread claiming this would be the #1 device at several retailers, so this would be a narrative shift to save face if that becomes a claim.
When one knows those expectations, I’ll be here to learn them.It can both not meet expectations in sales and still be the number 1 selling console at a retailer.
it's all relative.
I don't think the Console (only new item with basically no competition) being number #1 in an online retailer, close to its release has any correlation to anything tangible.When one knows those expectations, I’ll be here to learn them.
Verbatim, the Pro is the #1 device despite its price and calls of DOA. What it does later is the only thing up for debate.
I’m not reading into anything other than what I can prove.I don't think the Console (only new item with basically no competition) being number #1 in an online retailer, close to its release has any correlation to anything tangible.
people are reading too deeply into this, it was going to be #1 on amazon at some point, but it also doesn't reflect anything real regarding concrete sales or profitability.
Personally, I wouldn't hang my hat on any side using this statistic if I was on either Team Fail or Team huge success. This is a nothing story and was going to happen, it's like being surprised the new iPhone has more orders than the old iPhone 2 weeks before it releases.
Nobody said it was DOA. Stop making shit up
£700? This thing is DOA
What was that thing someone said? 14% of PS4 sales were the Pro?
This won't get anywhere close to that. DOA.
HAHA, no way in hell i gonna pay so much. At that price, they didn't even need to announce the thing. What is even the point of it? It is doa.
And they didn't show 1 new game to take advantage of the new hardware—all old games/cross-gen games. DOA.
PS5 Pro is DOA with that price and those specs
It has the specs of a economic cost effective conservatively specced console at the price of a premium console with beefy specs
Yeah. The narrative has changed. Pepperidge Farms remembers.I’m not reading into anything other than what I can prove.
It’s a best seller on multiple retailers. Fact.
Folks said it would fail (out of the gate). Fact.
Suddenly “what did you expect” is the tagline, while the above scenarios contradict each other. Either it was going to initially fail or it was going to be sought after, but both cannot be true.
So, again, what it does from here is up for debate and only that. It can still fail, sure, but as of now, that’s not the case.
New phrase incoming.
"Dead in a number of months once all the initial fans have purchased their units and its down to everyday consumers to see if they are willing to invest" I think it rolls off the tongue really quite nicely.
With diminishing returns a $999 console's underpoweredness wouldn't even be noticeable without 600% zoom and side by side comparisons.Oh they’ll still be underpowered, just overpriced.
Yeah we went over it. There was a whole discussion about what was meant by DOA. But regardless I was corrected and already have gladly received those receipts.Sorry my man, but there were a few folks calling this thing DOA in the price reveal thread. This ain't all of them either....
Nobody said it was DOA. Stop making shit up
If the PS5 pro is more than $650 it's DOA.
What was that thing someone said? 14% of PS4 sales were the Pro?
This won't get anywhere close to that. DOA.
PS5 Pro is DOA with that price and those specs
It has the specs of a economic cost effective conservatively specced console at the price of a premium console with beefy specs
PS5 is barely selling in Japan. Pro is DOA there
Yeah mate if you could be arsed actually reading the thread you'd see weve alreay been over all this. You could have saved yourself sometime instead of going over old ground
Yeah we went over it. There was a whole discussion about what was meant by DOA. But regardless I was corrected and already have gladly received those receipts.
Just the one comment which i was quickly provided receipts for. I didn't think anyone would actually silly enough to proclaim it was DOA. I was wrong.My bad. I thought this was brought up again. Didn't realize you were being quoted from our previous discussion. All good.....dead horse at this point.
The point was that there were people saying it's DOA, or equivalent.We don't know how its doing and wont until we get numbers for the Q. So whats your point?
Yeah mate if you could be arsed actually reading the thread you'd see weve alreay been over all this. You could have saved yourself sometime instead of going over old ground
Semantics."who is this even for" and "ps5 isn't even fully utilized" != DOA by a mile though. Sony, Nintendo or even Xbox are going to get some traction with any hardware they put out, these simply wouldn't be products that get completely ignored.
We don't even know what expectations Sony has for it, the PS4 Pro didn't exactly light the world on fire but obviously it was considered enough of a success to warrant a successor.
I’m not reading into anything other than what I can prove.
It’s a best seller on multiple retailers. Fact.
Folks said it would fail (out of the gate). Fact.
Suddenly “what did you expect” is the tagline, while the above scenarios contradict each other. Either it was going to initially fail or it was going to be sought after, but both cannot be true.
So, again, what it does from here is up for debate and only that. It can still fail, sure, but as of now, that’s not the case.
Semantics.
It's a huge waste of time trying to argue from this angle.
But hey, we're on an enthusiast gaming forum.
I've been hearing for years now that making a Pro would be a huge mistake, mostly from people unable to grasp that the market environment when a product is rumoured does not reflect the state of the industry at product release.
Pretending like "that's not literally DOA" is just hilarious to me.
Seems that you missed that I agree with the “of course” part. I’m calling out the sudden mention of it.Most just questioned the price and long-term viability of the console. Of course there are going to be buyers for it day one, just as there was PSVR 2. Will it be 10%, 20%, 50% of the units sold going forward, that's the interesting part. It could mirror the last gen, but games were well represented on the base unit last time around where the UE5 games don't look all that great on the base units this time. Maybe that changes things.
The sales trajectory doesn't matter much to Pro buyers anyway. Sony will mandate support for it for all future releases on PS5.
Seems that you missed that I agree with the “of course” part. I’m calling out the sudden mention of it.
Yes, of course there were going to be buyers. That was the whole point!
It’s not a mass market item, so I expect its market behavior to be steady, but complementary.Right, everyone that was critical of the price fully understood that buyers would exist from the beginning. The question is whether or not there are mass market buyers for it. Does it keep selling or sink like a stone once the early adopters buy in (like PSVR 2)?
It is maybe not doa, but is also not a very hot product. I got my trade in deal in gamestop. And the employees told me that all the stores have still inventory and its about 20-30% of ps4 pro in pre orders.Sorry my man, but there were a few folks calling this thing DOA in the price reveal thread. This ain't all of them either....
It’s not a mass market item, so I expect its market behavior to be steady, but complementary.
It doesn’t have to be. It’s an option.It is maybe not doa, but is also not a very hot product. I got my trade in deal in gamestop. And the employees told me that all the stores have still inventory and its about 20-30% of ps4 pro in pre orders.