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[Liljagare]

I always like this video when it comes to talks regarding this stuff.



Anyway, the group of guys that are "rioting" just want to sow dissidence. We call theese clicks of guys "brushor" (bro's), because they really have nothing to do with their religion, they just want to be hardcore asshats, and sell drugs. Just a completely lost group of guys that doesn't want to be a part of society, and they get cuddled by law enforcement, rather than getting locked up and stripped of their second citizenship, and subsequently deported. In Sweden, its considered racist to want to deal with theese guys in a proper legal fashion, since they come from wartorn countries. It's been overlooked for years, and now it is becoming a huge issue. And, Swedes that want a solution to the problem are still called out as racists, or nazis. It's a nutty situation, 30 years in the making.

The youth that have both parents born in Sweden are fedup with the situation, the cops are fedup, most citizens are fedup, and the government response is usually "lets talk to theese guys over a cup of coffee and cake, they are just misunderstood".

Sweden is a ripe breeding ground for extremists from all sides, sadly enough. Good intentions and all.

 

[Patrick S.]

The way France assimilate its muslims immigrants (whether they come from north africa -a lot- or middle east -far less-)has nothing to do with the communautaristic way they do it in northern europe countries.

Whenever I see pictures or read articles about muslims in France, it doesn't look like France is assimilating muslim immigrants. Certainly looks more like the other way around. For example, I've watched a GoPro video of someone just walking through a French city, and that video could as well have been filmed in Africa.

People in Europe are working their damn asses off and can't make ends meet, and aren't having children because they can't afford to. Immigrants from North Africa and west Asia very often fail to integrate, live off of welfare, and have half a dozen children. A slow but steady population replacement is clearly happening in Europe, and everyone is looking away and/or pretending it's a lie, but it's not. European leaders are letting our western"Leitkultur" get pushed aside more and more because we don't want to offend anyone and want to be inclusive etc. Like, how many businesses don't put up a Christmas tree anymore because some muslim dude might feel offended? Just fuck off with that shit, man.

 

[Toots]

Got some experience during the years. Living in NL. A few politicans killed for being against Muslims (no records of burning Quran). Many under police protection. Thats normal to you?

Did you know that most synagogues in France and Germany are protected 24/7 against local Muslim communities? You really want to live in such world? Uncertainty?

Of course killing people isn’t normal. It is despisable. In Netherland i know about Theo Van Gogh death sometime ago. The killer was diagnosed with some mental illness if i’m not mistaken (not that it’s an excuse, but for me it’s more his illness than his religion which made him do it). Could it be the same with the other killings ? You might argue that islam attract mentally ill people, but you can argue that with almost every religions…

I know about the military presence in front of not only synagogues but yeshiva also. I find it performative, and stupid most of the time because first the last attack against a synagogue in France was i don’t know when, and second in the case of yeshivas it kind of signal where to strike for terrorist as you can see soldiers (one or two max) in front of anonymous building with no other indication of jewish presence than the military…

 

[Patrick S.]

Of course killing people isn’t normal. It is despisable. In Netherland i know about Theo Van Gogh death sometime ago. The killer was diagnosed with some mental illness if i’m not mistaken (not that it’s an excuse, but for me it’s more his illness than his religion which made him do it). Could it be the same with the other killings ? You might argue that islam attract mentally ill people, but you can argue that with almost every religions…

Yeah, German media like to use the "he was mentally ill" narrative too, whenever there's another terrorist attack.

 

[base]

Of course killing people isn’t normal. It is despisable. In Netherland i know about Theo Van Gogh death sometime ago. The killer was diagnosed with some mental illness if i’m not mistaken (not that it’s an excuse, but for me it’s more his illness than his religion which made him do it). Could it be the same with the other killings ? You might argue that islam attract mentally ill people, but you can argue that with almost every religions…

I know about the military presence in front of not only synagogues but yeshiva also. I find it performative, and stupid most of the time because first the last attack against a synagogue in France was i don’t know when, and second in the case of yeshivas it kind of signal where to strike for terrorist as you can see soldiers (one or two max) in front of anonymous building with no other indication of jewish presence than the military…

Lol bro, ur watching too much CNN. Just wait for them to be in the majority during the years. Conversion to Islam will be the only option to live. You're naive they will integrate and adapt the Western culture. Maybe some of them but most dont give a fuck.

 

[base]

Yeah, German media like to use the "he was mentally ill" narrative too, whenever there's another terrorist attack.

I noticed it too. And they inform about the skin color only when the attacker's White.

 

[Toots]

Yeah, German media like to use the "he was mentally ill" narrative too, whenever there's another terrorist attack.

You got me dude i m angela merkel. I was bored not being head of state anymore so i resolved to defend muslim honor on the best vg forum there is…
I was just trying to give you a exit from your racist generalization by doing another generalization but if you want to hate all muslims for fear of what they could do i won’t stop you…

 

[Patrick S.]

You got me dude i m angela merkel. I was bored not being head of state anymore so i resolved to defend muslim honor on the best vg forum there is…
I was just trying to give you a exit from your racist generalization by doing another generalization but if you want to hate all muslims for fear of what they could do i won’t stop you…

Saying "you're a racist" is the easy way out. I've said nothing but facts. But yeah, how dare I not being happy about what's going on in Europe.

 

[Toots]

Lol bro, ur watching too much CNN. Just wait for them to be in the majority during the years. Conversion to Islam will be the only option to live. You're naive they will integrate and adapt the Western culture. Maybe some of them but most dont give a fuck.

I don’t watch cnn i don’t read the press i don’t vote. i don’t adhere to the « grand remplacement » theory like you seem to do. I work 5 days a week, i talk with people i know, others i don’t, some piss me off, some don’t, i have preconceived ideas which i try to fight because it’s not rational. I don’t try to rationalize my fear or hate like some seem to do in this thread. And of course im defending muslims at 1:40am on my phone because having a discussion seemed important at the moment. Im not sure we are having a discussion anymore, and i don’t think you really want to hear my points. Fair enough, but guys if some resetera nutjob came barging in this thread calling you racists warmongers, for once i’d have a really hard time proving him wrong…

 

[Patrick S.]

I don’t watch cnn i don’t read the press i don’t vote. i don’t adhere to the « grand remplacement » theory like you seem to do. I work 5 days a week, i talk with people i know, others i don’t, some piss me off, some don’t, i have preconceived ideas which i try to fight because it’s not rational. I don’t try to rationalize my fear or hate like some seem to do in this thread. And of course im defending muslims at 1:40am on my phone because having a discussion seemed important at the moment. Im not sure we are having a discussion anymore, and i don’t think you really want to hear my points. Fair enough, but guys if some resetera nutjob came barging in this thread calling you racists warmongers, for once i’d have a really hard time proving him wrong…

Again, it's just too easy to play the "UR REISIST!1!" card when people DARE to mention that they kinda not agree with the idea of one day being a minority in their own country.

Also nobody is calling for war of any kind so I don't know why the fuck you are calling people warmongers?

 

[base]

I don’t watch cnn i don’t read the press i don’t vote. i don’t adhere to the « grand remplacement » theory like you seem to do. I work 5 days a week, i talk with people i know, others i don’t, some piss me off, some don’t, i have preconceived ideas which i try to fight because it’s not rational. I don’t try to rationalize my fear or hate like some seem to do in this thread. And of course im defending muslims at 1:40am on my phone because having a discussion seemed important at the moment. Im not sure we are having a discussion anymore, and i don’t think you really want to hear my points. Fair enough, but guys if some resetera nutjob came barging in this thread calling you racists warmongers, for once i’d have a really hard time proving him wrong…

I'll pass. Won't change anything. Back to HBO Max.

 

[Toots]

Saying "you're a racist" is the easy way out. I've said nothing but facts. But yeah, how dare I not being happy about what's going on in Europe.

Dude i tried to be patient and explain myself clearly. Even with all you guys releasing your muslim frustration on me.
« your » and « you’re » are not the same.
« Your racist generalization » doesn’t equate to « you’re racist ».
But yeah with this latest development, i think you are racist and a dummy. Im sorry that it makes you feel scared and angry, i’d rather you be smart but what can i do?…

 

[crazy monkey]

The idea that any group of people who violently riot because someone destroyed a book is antithetical to Western civilization. If these people can’t get on board with that, they need to go back to whatever dusty, dried out place they came from.

Why were they invited in the first place?

 

[ipukespiders]

Make Sweden Great Again

 

[belmarduk]

No religions are systems of beliefs and ideas, and as such, they should be subject to criticism like any other ideas.Why would Muslims get a free pass on this? iIt should apply to everyone. Because they ofter use the threat of violence? Fuck that.

 

[belmarduk]

No religions are systems of beliefs and ideas, and as such, they should be subject to criticism like any other ideas.Why would Muslims get a free pass on this? iIt should apply to everyone. Because they ofter use the threat of violence? Fuck thatr respect others beliefs.

 

[frontovik]

Perhaps they should use the koran as toilet paper to infuriate those extremist nut jobs further.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

No religions are systems of beliefs and ideas, and as such, they should be subject to criticism like any other ideas.Why would Muslims get a free pass on this? iIt should apply to everyone. Because they ofter use the threat of violence? Fuck that.

As someone who isn't religious, one my biggest WTF views is how or why do some beliefs get classified as a religion, while some dont.

It should make no difference if there's 10 million people banded together in common beliefs with churches/mosques (and that even assumes they even share the view on it which going by violent and non-violent followers, shows they don't) vs. a single person who believes in something where they are the only one in the world.

Seems to me, the big popular religions get more free passes just simply for sheer numbers (ie. potential voters for gov, and strength in numbers for believers) so they get more lax attitudes.

For example with extreme Muslims chopping heads off, you'll get defenders saying it's ok or "just dont agitate them or they'll do it" as if it's something acceptable to do. But if a solo believer in their own world had a view enemies should be beheaded that would be a giant no-no across the board. You'd never get anyone else saying it's ok to behead a guy for denouncing his homemade scripture.

 

[DeafTourette]

There are inferior cultures, just people say it's racist to point it out.

Yeah .. that is kinda racist.

Riots have happened all over for less in Europe by the majority population... Just like they have any other country or continent.

Religious extremists have bombed abortion clinics, shot abortion doctors, "Christians" have killed atheists...

But sure... Show them you don't respect them and keep trying to expect that they don't push back.

Dr. King said riots are the voice of the unheard. Maybe look a bit deeper instead of being a racist hack?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Yeah .. that is kinda racist.

Riots have happened all over for less in Europe by the majority population... Just like they have any other country or continent.

Religious extremists have bombed abortion clinics, shot abortion doctors, "Christians" have killed atheists...

But sure... Show them you don't respect them and keep trying to expect that they don't push back.

Dr. King said riots are the voice of the unheard. Maybe look a bit deeper instead of being a racist hack?

You assume riots are due to mature folks whose last resort is rioting and violence to make a point.

How does that relate to prison riots or people rioting in downtown when their sorts team wins or loses the championship?

 

[DeafTourette]

You assume riots are due to mature folks whose last resort is rioting and violence to make a point.

How does that relate to prison riots or people rioting in downtown when their sorts team wins or loses the championship?

I don't presume these are last resorts or always a last resort. Killing abortion doctors wasn't a last resort. Nor was bombing their clinics. Killing and destroying black towns all over the country wasn't either. Or rioting over a national flag.

These are actions of people who, as Shepherd Book said, are believers. They believe in something so strongly that they'll riot, kill, destroy if someone does something counter to those beliefs.

What I'm saying is, that Qur'an burning likely wasn't the only thing that set this all off. That's why I quoted Dr. King.

 

[Aggelos]

Well, there it is again, the Islamisation and Arabisation of Europe. Eurabia is happening in the 21st century, and that is a very sad and appalling thing for us, the Europeans. There's no way for us, the Westerners, and all those who espouse the religions and ideologies of the middle east to get along. We're fundamentally different.
They don't belong to our western values: equal rights, education, human rights, social equality, western lifestyle, spiritual freedom, freedom of speech, and any kind of freedom for that matter, etc.
They're brainwashed like the indoctrinated sheeple by their religion and their so-called religious doctrines/beliefs. Now that we're almost one quarter into the 21st century, it should be prudent to reconsider ousting and expelling all those who do not espouse and adopt the western values (our values) when they come to live here (especially those who come from the middle east). If they want to become upstanding and respectable citizens and want to contribute to society, then they're more than welcome to be part of Europe.

Eurabia conspiracy theory - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For the record, Islam is not a religion, it's an ideology that combines the literal interpretation of the Quran, militarism, weapons use and extremism.
Not a religion, just a morbid and sickening ideology.





All that, once again brings to my mind Carl Sagan's thoughts and words about our planet, the Pale Blue Dot, and the earthlings who inhabit this planet.

"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

Pale Blue Dot - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Zeroing]

Sigh, ok history time! On Ancient Rome they added gods and goddesses of multiple areas they controlled! Until 1 monotheistic religion started causing problems… some say it was all policial but then Christians came along too, refused to adapted to a very inclusive religion until a Roman emperor had to be converted by force ….

The oppressor becomes the oppressed and Christianism became the oppressor - campaign against other religions… crusades, Protestantism and so on.

With that being said, Christianity was all about loving the other as it was yourself and we clearly know how that got distorted. Same is happening with Islam.

So yeah people will distort any religion to suit their objectives!

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I can understand 1000 years ago, kings and queens added religion to control the masses with fear, gods and demons. And also a way to siphon off donation money to pad the elites' wooden war chests (notice how no priests are ever broke?), but in modern day I still cant believe anyone can be indoctrinated with religious wackiness.

As an athiest non-believer, well go ahead and do what you do. I'll just sit back and watch the silliness on TV and tweets.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Sigh, ok history time! On Ancient Rome they added gods and goddesses of multiple areas they controlled! Until 1 monotheistic religion started causing problems… some say it was all policial but then Christians came along too, refused to adapted to a very inclusive religion until a Roman emperor had to be converted by force ….

The oppressor becomes the oppressed and Christianism became the oppressor - campaign against other religions… crusades, Protestantism and so on.

With that being said, Christianity was all about loving the other as it was yourself and we clearly know how that got distorted. Same is happening with Islam.

So yeah people will distort any religion to suit their objectives!

In Ancient Rome barely anyone could read and also life was quite different. Comparing that time with today is a bit of a stretch mate.

 

[Nobody_Important]

There are inferior cultures, just people say it's racist to point it out.

Yeah...no.

There are inferior ideas and outdated beliefs, but an entire culture cannot be labeled as "inferior". That is just nonsense. All cultures have strengths and weaknesses. Its pointless (and in most cases racist) to try to hold one above the others as if one culture is just free of its own prevalent issues and inherent problems.

 

[Zeroing]

In Ancient Rome barely anyone could read and also life was quite different. Comparing that time with today is a bit of a stretch mate.

i wasn’t comparing I was stating how religion can be manipulated or distorted. It’s been happening though out history! We make wars based on religion, we hate groups because of their religion etc.

Sad part is actually nowadays people can read and have access to information like you said… but manipulation still happens.

Burning a book some see as sacred is an act of provocation. So is putting your frustrations into making chaos while blaming religion!

 

[B D Joe]

At least we have better food now eh... that's all that matters isn't it?

There's no putting this genie back in the bottle for Europe, take care of your family and friends It's all we can do now.

 

[ParaSeoul]

I think its really funny people think the two religions that both hold Jesus in high regard are somehow incompatible but Christians have no issue with the one that says Jesus is in hell boiling in excrement.

 

[Georges Chiellins]

Good to see followers of the Religion of Peace being very peaceful, yet again.

 

[FunkMiller]

Western society is uncomfortable challenging the outdated, backward and bigoted doctrine of Islam, because if it does, it might have to start questioning its own outdated, backward and bigoted religious doctrine.

Once you start really cracking down on Islam’s bullshit, you find yourself also having to crack down on Christianity’s bullshit.

 

[chromhound]

Russia will gladly help

 

[p_xavier]

Yeah .. that is kinda racist.

Riots have happened all over for less in Europe by the majority population... Just like they have any other country or continent.

Religious extremists have bombed abortion clinics, shot abortion doctors, "Christians" have killed atheists...

But sure... Show them you don't respect them and keep trying to expect that they don't push back.

Dr. King said riots are the voice of the unheard. Maybe look a bit deeper instead of being a racist hack?

That's not about race but culture. When you have net positive outcomes like most nordic countries with high level of happiness, social peace, etc. I have difficulty to see how other cultures can objectivelly be better.

As for Dr. King, is it possible that multiiculturalism just doesn't work? Many former EU leaders as Angela Markel said so.

 

[BadBurger]

Well, there it is again, the Islamisation and Arabisation of Europe. Eurabia is happening in the 21st century, and that is a very sad and appalling thing for us, the Europeans. There's no way for us, the Westerners, and all those who espouse the religions and ideologies of the middle east to get along. We're fundamentally different.
They don't belong to our western values: equal rights, education, human rights, social equality, western lifestyle, spiritual freedom, freedom of speech, and any kind of freedom for that matter, etc.
They're brainwashed like the indoctrinated sheeple by their religion and their so-called religious doctrines/beliefs. Now that we're almost one quarter into the 21st century, it should be prudent to reconsider ousting and expelling all those who do not espouse and adopt the western values (our values) when they come to live here (especially those who come from the middle east). If they want to become upstanding and respectable citizens and want to contribute to society, then they're more than welcome to be part of Europe.

Eurabia conspiracy theory - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For the record, Islam is not a religion, it's an ideology that combines the literal interpretation of the Quran, militarism, weapons use and extremism.
Not a religion, just a morbid and sickening ideology.





All that, once again brings to my mind Carl Sagan's thoughts and words about our planet, the Pale Blue Dot, and the earthlings who inhabit this planet.

"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

Pale Blue Dot - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wow.

I'll say this much: Carl Sagan, the brilliant scientist and philosopher and thinker who's words you attempted to use to justify xenophobia, would not have agreed with you in the least.

 

[Radical Dreamer]

Whenever I see pictures or read articles about muslims in France, it doesn't look like France is assimilating muslim immigrants. Certainly looks more like the other way around. For example, I've watched a GoPro video of someone just walking through a French city, and that video could as well have been filmed in Africa.

People in Europe are working their damn asses off and can't make ends meet, and aren't having children because they can't afford to. Immigrants from North Africa and west Asia very often fail to integrate, live off of welfare, and have half a dozen children. A slow but steady population replacement is clearly happening in Europe, and everyone is looking away and/or pretending it's a lie, but it's not. European leaders are letting our western"Leitkultur" get pushed aside more and more because we don't want to offend anyone and want to be inclusive etc. Like, how many businesses don't put up a Christmas tree anymore because some muslim dude might feel offended? Just fuck off with that shit, man.

couldn't agree more

 

[01011001]

Something serious is happening in Sweden. Quran got burned and the Muslim society wants to kill policemen. Lol

RELIGION... not even once

 

[TheDreadLord]

That's not about race but culture. When you have net positive outcomes like most nordic countries with high level of happiness, social peace, etc. I have difficulty to see how other cultures can objectivelly be better.

As for Dr. King, is it possible that multiiculturalism just doesn't work? Many former EU leaders as Angela Markel said so.

This is complete nonsense. LA is a huge multicultural society and it works (somehow). You can’t attribute their problems to multiculturalism. Actually, this is what keeps a country like Brazil together. Their issues are more related to hundreds of years of European exploitation than anything else.

 

[Chittagong]

 

[rofif]

Seriously fuck religion.
I will sooner believe in ghosts and aliens than all this god shit.
IMO it should be required for a religion to PROVE existence of their god. If they cannot, they are limited to having a small shitty club of people who likes the fictional character.
These hardcore Muslims will not assimilate. We all know that all they want is for everyone else to adjust to them...

 

[p_xavier]

This is complete nonsense. LA is a huge multicultural society and it works (somehow). You can’t attribute their problems to multiculturalism. Actually, this is what keeps a country like Brazil together. Their issues are more related to hundreds of years of European exploitation than anything else.

Lol. I would actually give LA as an example of why it doesn't work. I might have not gotten your sarcasm this early.

Anyways, it's now political, I'm out. Cheers.

 

[MadAnon]

Being overly tolerant towards religious idologies which are rooted in intolerance will never end well. Western and northern Europe is absolutely perfect places for more extreme islam ideologists to fester. Eventually it will be "Nice guys finish last."

 

[Woopah]

Again, it's just too easy to play the "UR REISIST!1!" card when people DARE to mention that they kinda not agree with the idea of one day being a minority in their own country.

Also nobody is calling for war of any kind so I don't know why the fuck you are calling people warmongers?

Millions of people are already minorities in their own country. Do you think this has negative impacts on them?

 

[DeafTourette]

That's not about race but culture. When you have net positive outcomes like most nordic countries with high level of happiness, social peace, etc. I have difficulty to see how other cultures can objectivelly be better.

As for Dr. King, is it possible that multiiculturalism just doesn't work? Many former EU leaders as Angela Markel said so.

And there we have it... Racist idea in second paragraph.

Bigots are why there is any racial or cultural strife.

 

[funkygunther]

Like, how many businesses don't put up a Christmas tree anymore because some muslim dude might feel offended?

I dont know, how many?

 

[NahaNago]

And there we have it... Racist idea in second paragraph.

Bigots are why there is any racial or cultural strife.

That is based off culture and not race though. The mixing of two cultures will cause some strife if one culture is less tolerant of the other at any time. I don't agree with that line in the paragraph but I do understand that you will have some pain with the mixing of two cultures some time.

Bigots are the reason for some racial or cultural strife.

 

[Airola]

I remember before the Exodus happened people were downplaying these problems of Sweden all the time. One dude, Darth something, was always telling he's a Swede and there's no problems with immigrants whatsoever in Sweden. At some point he revealed he actually works at some immigration center. While to a lot of people that was proof he was right, I thought it shows he's biased to talk about it. I wonder what are his excuses for the situation in Sweden now.

By the way, remember when there was a scandal with Trump calling out this problem in Sweden? It was spun in magazines as Trump talking shit because apparently nothing bad happened that night. But Trump was referring to a news report / documentary that was just shown, that showed how bad things already were. Of course the narrative was set and Trump talking about it only meant it's not real. Turns out he was right about it and most of the media tried to swipe all signs of trouble under the rug, and again pretty much just to make Trump look bad.

This gang culture from Sweden is coming to Finland. Has been coming for a while already. No-one wanted to believe it, or admit it, because doing so could've been interpreted as insensitive and even racist. But it's already here to some extent, and we just hade a news article saying how the police in the norther part of Finland is very worried about the gangs moving in to Finland through the north-west borders, as the gangs in Sweden have already spread into Luleå. We already have a problem with child grooming culture in Oulu, which also was swept under the rug because the perpetrators were migrants. I'm dreading the thought of violent gangs being added up to that. It's already happening in the Southern part of Finland, not in the same scale as in Sweden, but the development of this gang culture is very alarming. We are also now having kids who beat up others and steal their clothes in the malls. Filming it and making people lick their shoes.

 

[DeafTourette]

That is based off culture and not race though. The mixing of two cultures will cause some strife if one culture is less tolerant of the other at any time. I don't agree with that line in the paragraph but I do understand that you will have some pain with the mixing of two cultures some time.

Bigots are the reason for some racial or cultural strife.

African-American culture, Native-American, Latino-American, Asian-American cultures shouldn't be compatible with white American cultures by that logic either... But it happens. The dominant population was making laws against each of these groups and it took people like Dr. King to get them struck down.

If understanding and absence of hate were practiced more, we likely wouldn't have all the problems we have in the world. Don't be a jerk and we can all get along ...not saying things like "your culture is inferior" ...

As I said, it was likely MORE than just the burning of a Quran that lead to those riots in Sweden. Just like it was more than JUST one single incident that lead to many of the riots we've had in this country... Though, there didn't seem to be any buildup for mass killings of indigenous and Asian and black folks, even in the 20th century.

 

[ResilientBanana]

I always like this video when it comes to talks regarding this stuff.



Anyway, the group of guys that are "rioting" just want to sow dissidence. We call theese clicks of guys "brushor" (bro's), because they really have nothing to do with their religion, they just want to be hardcore asshats, and sell drugs. Just a completely lost group of guys that doesn't want to be a part of society, and they get cuddled by law enforcement, rather than getting locked up and stripped of their second citizenship, and subsequently deported. In Sweden, its considered racist to want to deal with theese guys in a proper legal fashion, since they come from wartorn countries. It's been overlooked for years, and now it is becoming a huge issue. And, Swedes that want a solution to the problem are still called out as racists, or nazis. It's a nutty situation, 30 years in the making.

The youth that have both parents born in Sweden are fedup with the situation, the cops are fedup, most citizens are fedup, and the government response is usually "lets talk to theese guys over a cup of coffee and cake, they are just misunderstood".

Sweden is a ripe breeding ground for extremists from all sides, sadly enough. Good intentions and all.

So, California

 

[p_xavier]

And there we have it... Racist idea in second paragraph.

Bigots are why there is any racial or cultural strife.

Explain to me how I have racist ideas when the Quran and its adept says I should get killed by being gay, and with other cultures too. How is that multicultural view compatible with my life basically.

 

[Darth_Ghandi]

I think people who think this is only about religion are also the same people who think the war in Ukraine was only about NATO expansion.

The material analysis is often lacking and instead we see very simple and reductive ideas like
“Muslims can’t integrate” or “we are being replaced” tm stuff.