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[InfiniteCombo]

And I bet the majority of those people aren't scum who hopped on a boat, headed to the American coast, conveniently lost their passports, and their first words when they arrived weren't "help me, give money". It's damn hard for foreigners to get legal residence in the US, and I guess most of these Muslims you speak of are a valuable contribution to any society they go to.

And those are the people I welcome, too. Not, for example, Turks who have lived in Germany for sixty years, yet can't hold a conversation in German.

And don't get me started on shit like honor killings.... commited by people who murder their own daughters and sisters for tainting the family honor if they are caught being in a relationship with a German, while the brothers of these youg girls bang a different blonde girl every day of the weekend. (Those are the absolute extreme cases, I know, but what I'm trying to say is that they do happen, and there are people who not only don't want to assimilate, but literally consider us infidels animals who will tarnish the honor of their whole family).

Funny you mention that...

Anecdotal: I have a good friend, she's -- you know, tall, blonde, green eyes, the whole works. For a little while, several years ago, she was dating this one Muslim dude. They would fight all the time because he refused to introduce her to his family, because she wouldn't be "approved." He didn't have a problem banging her every weekend though

But again, he's just a retard and most Muslim people I've come across are simply living their lives and contributing to our city just like everyone else.

If you are a minority group, you may have an extremist portion of your group (so, radical Islamists being an extreme version of Muslims; BLM being an extreme version of black people; radical LGBTQ+ Twitter activists being a radical version of the majority of gay/lesbian people; etc). If the radical wing in your group does something dumb, or dangerous, it would be a good idea for the majority of people in that group to DENOUNCE that behavior. That way, everyone else that doesn't belong in your group can see that you don't endorse the bad behavior, and they won't associate the bad behavior with EVERYONE in your group.

So if you have radical Islamists do something dumb, have the representative of the majority Muslim population put out a statement condemning the actions of the radical Islamists. It would help.

 

[Darth_Ghandi]

Here are some other stories about local Muslims not agreeing with the riots, and walking the walk by cleaning up.
It’s good to give a story some nuance instead of calling people names.

De stöttar polisen efter kravallerna – och städar upp i Navestad

– Vi vill visa att Norrköping är bättre än så. Så beskriver Moa Källsholm från Norrköping känslan som drev henne och många andra Norrköpingsbor till att sluta upp och städa upp i stadsdelen efter kravallerna på söndagen.

amp.svt.se

Ungdomar städade Sveaparken i Örebro efter upploppet: ”Vi ville visa kärlek”

Flera ungdomar från Vivalla samlades tidigt på söndagsmorgonen för att städa Sveaparken. De delade även ut blommor till husägare som drabbades under upploppet samt till polisen. – Vi ville visa kärlek till dem, säger Hani Bilal, ordförande i ”For The People”.

amp.svt.se

 

[Decontamination Silo]

Meritocracy has expanded to include more qualifications according to values that develop over time. Sure there are probably a few counter examples like schools letting in the monied or nepotism. Yet, that problem isn't the result of multiculturalism though immigrants could take advantage of it.

Western liberal democracy is a better system of governance by all metrics and its success has benefited the world with its openess. Even hostile governments.

Yet, taking any success which may be happening in China and Middle East and crediting it solely to multiculturalism in the West is silly.

Not being an alarmist that thinks the sky is falling over a few immigrants in Sweden, seems like Europe will still be a well educated and developed continent in 50 -100 years that will adapt to any challenges.

The west is clearly losing its ability to project power and economic precarity for the working man is the highest it’s been in a hundred years. What are these metrics you’re looking at? Self reported GDP?

 

[Kraz]

The west is clearly losing its ability to project power and economic precarity for the working man is the highest it’s been in a hundred years. What are these metrics you’re looking at? Self reported GDP?

Russia and many hostile nations complain about how powerfully the West projects its power. Russia in particular is complaining more now that they've got a more of a taste. And that isn't even direct military.

What are you basing your anti-western views on?

 

[Urban]

I based the scale based on the cultural general happinness, wealth etc. so it can be more objective. Sweden here being an interesting case cause it used to be one the best place in the world to live in as per many polls, but it's now being attacked by another culture. The other culture diminishing the way of life of the country, I found it objective and logical to say that the new culture can be deemed inferior to the majority one.

Oh so with culture you mean islam?
Sorry now i get it. for you islam is not a religion but a culture.

Very strange way to look at something but very interesting. I might need to search for some sources that claim the same. i hope they are not all in racist pages lol

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

In the UK, there was a survey I recall a few years ago in which something like 80% of the Muslims polled were against gay marriage.

My background is Indian/Sikh and growing up our communities mingled a bit with the Muslim communities. I know of many Muslim men who hold derogatory beliefs about Western / liberal women. See them as sex objects for their values, skin colour and clothing (for showing skin and being revealing). I mean we know how many Muslim men subjugate their own women, so is this really a surprise?

Really it's always so odd to me watching the left/liberals defend Islam now. It comes from a lack of understanding as to what they're actually defending in my opinion.

Someday very soon you're going to have a clearly ultra liberal faction one side and radical/traditional Muslims on the other who completely reject the liberals in droves. Let's see what happens then and if we'll all just find a way to get along.....

 

[Decontamination Silo]

Russia and many hostile nations complain about how powerfully the West projects its power. Russia in particular is complaining more now that they've got a more of a taste. And that isn't even direct military.

What are you basing your anti-western views on?

Russia was undeterred from entering Ukraine. China will also make confident moves in the near future. Why wouldn't they? They saw how ineffective we were in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

If I were truly anti-west I'd tell them they were doing great and stay the course.

 

[Ionian]

Some friendly neighborhood Muslims attacking Easter celebrations in Catalunya. Very smart idea; Spanish police always hit you in the face with a stick first and ask questions later.

Ha, fucking idiots.. I've lived in Barca (actually Placa de Catalunya) never visited Tarragona.

Police were always friendly to me even though my Catalan was basic,once they heard I was Irish and not English they'd smile and go easy on me and speak English far easier. Lovely chaps.

Well apart from the time I answered a knock on my apartment door and had a gun shoved in my face, was dragged out. Was a breakin in the building and they got the wrong place. Landlord arrived (was her Doctors office that an alarm went off, under my apartment). We both laughed about it but was scary as fuck at the time. They sure don't mess about.

 

[Kraz]

Russia was undeterred from entering Ukraine. China will also make confident moves in the near future. Why wouldn't they? They saw how ineffective we were in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

If I were truly anti-west I'd tell them they were doing great and stay the course.

The anti-west sentiments may be unintended but they are there in the reductionism.

Russia was undeterred partly out of desperation and also partly because they were apparently working from false information regarding their strength and that of their opposition, including reaction from the West.

Misinformation is a problem for authoritarian attitudes according to analysts.

Getting back to religions and their place in modern society, discomfort with religion and how to manage it is an ongoing issue in the West.

Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey - National | Globalnews.ca

Some Canadians now believe certain religions are more damaging to society than beneficial, a new survey shows, as people across the country continue to eschew religion.

globalnews.ca

Many Canadians now believe Catholicism, evangelical Christianity and Islam are more damaging to society than beneficial, a new survey shows, as people across the country continue to turn their backs on religion.

The list could be expanded to include Hinduism given India's behavior recently making headlines, but the poll might have been before that.

How various countries deal with criminal elements varies, but if criminal immigrants get through the process then there's look at improving that process and deportation. Which Western governments are constantly developing and changing.

Also there are other means that spontaineously happen which slows immigration other than intended legislated nationalist isolationism, as can been seen in this example:

 

[NahaNago]

Ok... Just so we're clear...

Are there any white cultures that currently exist that are inferior?

I don't think I said anything about cultures being inferior.

 

[Frank Horrigan]

Religion. The worst thing humanity invented.

There's a book called Sapiens that explains pretty well that Religion was, and still largely is, a neccessity to the human race. The jist is that the story of a religion brings Humans together from different ages, sex's, social-classes, economic-classes and countries, more than any other story has in history. Think about the range and diversity of Christians, Jews and Muslims. 1.5 billion Christians and Muslims from every corner of the world, believe in the same story, unifying them as humans and shedding off lower-labels like Jordanian, Philipino, Man, Rich etc etc. Religion is a neccesity, or was, for the survival of our race.

I hope this post didn't come off as an 'ackshually' fart-huff, but the book Sapiens is well worth a read. It's fantastic.