Muffdraul
Member
If I had a nickel for every time the hive mind decrees "LOL GAME SUCKS" but then I try it myself and somehow manage to have a fine enough time with it.
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Rise Of The Ronin Reportedly Suffers From An Unstable Frame Rate In Performance Mode
Bry0
Member
Yeah I think if you are a fan of TN games then this has kinda been par for course at the technical level, but the games are a ton of fun so whatever. More technical polish would be nice but it’s not a dealbreaker to me. The pc port of wo long didn’t stop me from devouring that game like a fiend.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Hahaha, that’s funny because when it’s in performance mode, it’s not performing well.
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Just skip it and go replay Ninja Gaiden Black like a real gamer.
Variahunter
Member
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I do this every once in a while. I think I might buy the trilogy on the PS5.
StereoVsn
Member
Yep, there is just no point to pick up games at release anymore with a few exceptions (small print run).Games coming out with bugs and bad perfomance in 2024 ??? Noooo really?
Stop pre-ordering people! For fuck sake
Ill buy 6-12 months down the line more stable and cheaper... and play on the pro
You get a much better performing game, potential improvements in patches and DLC and all that for better price.
If publishers/developers aren’t willing to release games in good state, I am unwilling to pay them $80 at the release.
Giallo Corsa
Member
Don't.
You also have an Xbox if I'm remembering correctly, right ?
Both NG black and NG2 are miles better than the sigma collection via BC
Amazing games that really stood the test of time, their replayability is really something else...
Cheers
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Yep. Their engine may lack the high-end bells and whistles but it gets the job done. People really sleep on how accomplished the real-time cutscenes are in games like Nioh 2, how detailed the character rendering is, and overall how attractive these games are visually.
I think people are often misguided in their criticisms, basing thing on technical checklists and not overall effect. And then they complain about every game using Unreal engine....
Wo Long felt like a step back polish-wise from Nioh 2, something that I put down to it being developed during the heights of the pandemic. Also, Yasuda's back directing Ronin, and him being the studio head I suspect I'd expect maximum effort.
Honestly, they've built up a lot of credit with me these last few years, so its the easiest of easy day#1's regardless.
Valedix
Member
I choose to remember the good times.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I own them on Xbox already, yeah. Just figured going forward, it makes more sense to grow my PS catalog.Don't.
You also have an Xbox if I'm remembering correctly, right ?
Both NG black and NG2 are miles better than the sigma collection via BC
Amazing games that really stood the test of time, their replayability is really something else...
Cheers
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
What about the quality mode'? PS5 PRO will help this crap.
Hrk69
Gold Member
Better hardware doesn't mean shit if the game is highly unoptimised.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
You're saying there's a chance?
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Yea that's fine and good. I didn't say don't play it...I said something is off about the game. It's really just that this doesn't seem like a culmination of what Team Ninja has learned from othergames when Nioh 1 and 2 and even the Ninja Gaidens look smoother than this game. Maybe I couldn't place my finger on exactly what it was and maybe it's a tech issue that can be resolved, but the trailers I've seen so far have not been a good showing for the game. Right now that's all we have to go off, but I guess we will see very soon.
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vaibhavpisal
Member
Not gonna lie, I recently played 3 games considered shit by community back to back. Fallout 76, Redfall, Gotham Knights. Had a great time with all of them for variety of reasons. Finished them quickly cause was enjoying them.
In parallel was playing Witcher 3, highly acclaimed title, was complete slog to me. Finished it with great difficulty then deleted quickly.
This hive mind thingy and opinions on games when they could have changed due to updates is quiet counter productive.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
And most of the time people would want to save on a full-priced game to spend it on something worthwhile, especially considering how wonderful and hassle-free the refund policy for home consoles is.
SJRB
Gold Member
Exactly. I don’t understand where this idea is coming from that a PS5 Pro is magically going to fix all games that run like shit.
“PS5 Pro will fix this”.. No brother, the devs still have to optimise their game.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Don't pre order games and pay in advance for something that isn't finished.
Aion002
Member
That's the golden rule.
I love KT games and they almost always have demos before launch, most of the times I end up enjoying their games a lot and almost always I pre order them (when they have demos).
This time they didn't make a demo, so I will wait.
There's absolutely 0 incentive for me to pre order a game that I simply don't know if I will enjoy it or not, even though I like KT and I am huge Nioh fan.
SoSola
Banned
Isn't that still 10 FPS more than Dragon's Dogma 2 on consoles? Who cares anyway? I don't have a PS5 so I'll be waiting for the actual final release on PC. Thank you PS5 fans for beta testing though.
Same thing for Dragon's Dogma 2 on consoles, 30 fps? Not my problem. PC version runs higher than that.
At this point, console fans seriously need to reconsider why they fanboy so hard. What are you fanboying for? 30 FPS, remasters and exclusives that come to PC?
The people saying this game is janky think Stellar Blade looks good. Have you seen the 40 minute demo on YouTube of that? Asides from graphics and the main character having an ass, the game looks mediocre at best with some boring ass recycled repetive enemies and combat where enemies don't show any reactivity to your attacks. If not for all the culture war stuff and people wanting to own woke idiots, people wouldn't even be paying attention to Stellar Blade.
And unlike Rise, a PC release won't improve Stellar Blade because the issue with the later isn't performance, it's gameplay. Rise will undoubtedly run fine on PC just like the Nioh games did. Up to 120 FPS in fact.
Same thing for Dragon's Dogma 2 on consoles, 30 fps? Not my problem. PC version runs higher than that.
At this point, console fans seriously need to reconsider why they fanboy so hard. What are you fanboying for? 30 FPS, remasters and exclusives that come to PC?
The people saying this game is janky think Stellar Blade looks good. Have you seen the 40 minute demo on YouTube of that? Asides from graphics and the main character having an ass, the game looks mediocre at best with some boring ass recycled repetive enemies and combat where enemies don't show any reactivity to your attacks. If not for all the culture war stuff and people wanting to own woke idiots, people wouldn't even be paying attention to Stellar Blade.
And unlike Rise, a PC release won't improve Stellar Blade because the issue with the later isn't performance, it's gameplay. Rise will undoubtedly run fine on PC just like the Nioh games did. Up to 120 FPS in fact.
SoSola
Banned
That runs at 30 fps on console doesn't it though?
Good thing this isn't Tecmo then but Team Ninja. Team Ninja games are normally always good.
DavidGzz
Member
Keyword console. I'm saying I am glad Sony didn't moneyhat that one so that I can play it on PC.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
If you had a great time with those three turds then you should definitely not listen to anyone and buy Rise of the Ronin.
But how is pointing out how bad this looks for a Sony backed PS5 exclusive, that can't even maintain 60 fps in its performance mode a "hive mind mentality"? No that's just calling this what it is and frankly, we need more of that and less of your attitude of "I don't want to hear criticism for something I like"
if you hadn't noticed there are plenty more people who DO want to be able to pay $70 and get something that performs and looks good. It's not a bad thing to have a modicum of standards after having paid $550 for a PS5, a grand or more for a TV, and $70 on a game while being in 2024 when games aren't even stuck in the crossgen period anymore..Dragons Dogma 2 and RotR on the same day has got people rightfully annoyed
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Or just play Ghost Of Tsushima. Looks better and runs better even as a PS4 game.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
We get it you are a PC master race type and therefore somehow none of these complaints about performance on console are valid. And everyone who owns a console is somehow a fanboy even though the only thing being debated here is about performance of two upcoming games sucking ..which is ironic because you're the only person acting like a fanboy with your bragging and weird insults.
Grow up
It's going to be funny when DD2 run as crap on PC too, I will remember retards like you
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
And poorly optimized.
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Slimboy Fat
Member
King Dazzar
Member
It's not just the frame rate which has always looked unstable in a lot of the gameplay I've seen. But the colour palette and lighting just looks flat and very bland. It looks like a PS3 remaster. I'd rather just replay GoT instead.
Aaron Olive
Member
Team Ninja
vaibhavpisal
Member
60 fps criticism is fine. Its objective it cant hold it.
But am reading a lot “this is a shit game cause … reasons”. That’s something am not a fan of.
Mostly am open minded for the game cause just the swordplay here could be enough to carry the game for me. But haven’t made my mind about it yet.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
King Dazzar
Member
The mix of sword play with gun powder is what kept me hopeful that this would turn out well. But it's always looked dated from the off to me. So to then find it cant perform well, whilst looking dated. For me isnt good enough for an exclusive. The technical issues would impact the gameplay and immersion for me too.
That said, I hope you enjoy it.
WitchHunter
Banned
Idiots judging by a gif... which is 10 secs long and has 180 frames : DDD.
b a i t
b a i t
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vaibhavpisal
Member
Not on PS5 so could be a while before I get to play it. That said, I will keep an eye on it. These are some of my favourite devs.
King Dazzar
Member
Horse looks like its been given a rogering the night before.
You can watch it in a 4k 60fps video.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
I call it AAA Expensive Early Access.
SJRB
Gold Member
Can’t unsee those goofy legs, lmaoBest horse animation since RDR
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Games like this are why I'm glad services like GameFly are still around.